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...that might be the way that a few extreme posters wish it was. I personally think we need to win at least 6, and they will most likely come from SELA, Vandy, MTSU, KY, La Tech, and one of Auburn, Arkansas, Georgia Tech, and Ole Miss. Obviously, if we are going to win more than 6, we need to win more than one out of that last group.
But to say that a 6-6 season puts Croom on the "hotseat" is ridiculous. After a 6 year drought of winning 3 games or less, going to a bowl for two consecutive years shows good progress. The only people that it won't be good enough for are the few extreme posters on this board who never wanted Croom hired and just don't like the guy. For me personally, anything less than 6-6 puts him on the "hotseat," in that I want to see a winning season in 2009. But who knows if that will be the case with the athletic department. It will be tough to get rid of Croom if it ever comes to that.
But to say that a 6-6 season puts Croom on the "hotseat" is ridiculous. After a 6 year drought of winning 3 games or less, going to a bowl for two consecutive years shows good progress. The only people that it won't be good enough for are the few extreme posters on this board who never wanted Croom hired and just don't like the guy. For me personally, anything less than 6-6 puts him on the "hotseat," in that I want to see a winning season in 2009. But who knows if that will be the case with the athletic department. It will be tough to get rid of Croom if it ever comes to that.
I agree in the aspect that going to 2 consecutive bowl games would be huge. Especially for recruiting reasons. If we can win the games we are supposed to win and pull off an upset or two we will be sitting pretty good. I'm not asking that he win the west this year by any means. We definitely did more than i expected us to do last year. As long as Croom can lead us to a winning season this year (including a bowl game win), he will have earned his money as far as I'm concerned.
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HELL YES, but lets try to stay at least within the outer reaches of reality, shall we?
Now if he goes 3-9, thats another matter entirely. But 6-6 comming off a 4 year extenstion and concensus SEC COY for MSU for the first time in 40 years???
Only C34 and some of that ilk would think that would get you the "hot seat". MSU would be generally derided as morons, and you would NEVER be able to hire a decent coach.
but
Will I be disapointed if we dont win 7 games? Will I be critical?
HELL YES, but lets try to stay at least within the outer reaches of reality, shall we?
Now if he goes 3-9, thats another matter entirely. But 6-6 comming off a 4 year extenstion and concensus SEC COY for MSU for the first time in 40 years???
Only C34 and some of that ilk would think that would get you the "hot seat". MSU would be generally derided as morons, and you would NEVER be able to hire a decent coach.
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...that is just more Peaches ********. The question was posed as to what Croom's minimum number of wins had to be in 2008. I said that in my opinion, I don't think he will get fired unless he has a terrible year like winning less than 3 games. I then went on to say that if he does that, he will have to have a winning season in 2009 to keep his job, and that will be difficult because of the players we lose and the tougher schedule.
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...but for me personally, he needs to, at a minimum, win 6 games or more at least once in the next two years. If he doesn't do it this year, it's going to be tough to do it in 2009, so he'd better get it done this year. Having said that, I think it would be very tough to fire him in 2008 because he just won SEC Coach of the year and the fact that we would get raped by the media, unless he just goes way off into the *******.
To be clear, I'm not talking about what I would be satisfied or happy with, I am talking about what I think would have to happen for him to keep his job. I think he will get some sort of pass in 2008 (hope he doesn't have to get a "pass") for winning 8 games in 2007 and being SEC COY. Should that happen? Probably not, but at the same time, I don't think it would be in the best interest of MSU to can him unless he has a really bad year for the reasons stated above. See Cutcliffe, David and Orgeron, Ed.
To be clear, I'm not talking about what I would be satisfied or happy with, I am talking about what I think would have to happen for him to keep his job. I think he will get some sort of pass in 2008 (hope he doesn't have to get a "pass") for winning 8 games in 2007 and being SEC COY. Should that happen? Probably not, but at the same time, I don't think it would be in the best interest of MSU to can him unless he has a really bad year for the reasons stated above. See Cutcliffe, David and Orgeron, Ed.
....and on top of that, everybody on this board knows that you are a liar, and that you constantly spin things and exaggerate. So taking your word for anything is pointless.
Regardless, I will say one final time. I would not be in favor of firing Croom in 2008 unless he has a really bad year. Not because I would be satisfied with the team's performance, but because I think it would be a terrible public relations move, and we would get raked over the coals by the media to the point that we would have trouble finding a good coach. That is the gamble with Croom. If you win, you get things like "Say It Loud" done about you and you get all these accolades and national press. If you lose and you have to fire him, you get raped. That's just the way it is.
If you are tying to insinuate that I would ever be happy with 3 wins in any football season, well, that's just not right. I don't feel that way at all.
Regardless, I will say one final time. I would not be in favor of firing Croom in 2008 unless he has a really bad year. Not because I would be satisfied with the team's performance, but because I think it would be a terrible public relations move, and we would get raked over the coals by the media to the point that we would have trouble finding a good coach. That is the gamble with Croom. If you win, you get things like "Say It Loud" done about you and you get all these accolades and national press. If you lose and you have to fire him, you get raped. That's just the way it is.
If you are tying to insinuate that I would ever be happy with 3 wins in any football season, well, that's just not right. I don't feel that way at all.
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...that I would be happy with a 3 win season, Richman. That's just a bald faced lie. I don't doubt that the other personality in there is telling you I said it, but both of you are wrong.
.........he has a losing season, and rightfully so if that turns out to be the case. He's here to build success, not have a fluke winning season and go right back to sucking the following year. If we're at least bowl eligible next season,. then Croom is safe even if we're a bit disappointed if we're just 6-6. If we win 7 or better, most of us will be happy that we're at least showing some consistency.
you cut out 80% of the quote, and you know you did. Just like you did with the Garrett quote. That's why you are flaming liar. We've been over this.
I don't think that Mississippi State can fire him unless he has a really terrible season. I don't think it would be in our best interest. I stand by that. That's all there is to it. We would get murdered in the media and would be severely handicapped in our coaching search. See Cutlcliffe, David x 10. And look what they ended up with. If we wins less than 3, you get away with it. More than that, you don't. At least that's my opinion.
Keep spinning and lying. I'm sure you couldn't have made the grades, but you would've been a great trial lawyer.
I don't think that Mississippi State can fire him unless he has a really terrible season. I don't think it would be in our best interest. I stand by that. That's all there is to it. We would get murdered in the media and would be severely handicapped in our coaching search. See Cutlcliffe, David x 10. And look what they ended up with. If we wins less than 3, you get away with it. More than that, you don't. At least that's my opinion.
Keep spinning and lying. I'm sure you couldn't have made the grades, but you would've been a great trial lawyer.
responsible for Ellis Johnson leaving, and he should be on the hot seat because of it?
That's just ridiculous.
That's just ridiculous.
"That's why you are flaming liar. We've been over this."
I want you to explain to me how putting what you said in my sig is lying? Its not lying if you said it- regardless of how much of the quote i put in. You are the moron that typed that. Quit whining and take your medicine. You made a stupid comment- deal with it.
Garrett's quote was the same thing. I put in what he SAID. He said it. Its not lying, thats what he actually said.
Just because you dont like what he said, doesnt make it lying. Just because you are getting **** for what you said, doesnt make it lying
I want you to explain to me how putting what you said in my sig is lying? Its not lying if you said it- regardless of how much of the quote i put in. You are the moron that typed that. Quit whining and take your medicine. You made a stupid comment- deal with it.
Garrett's quote was the same thing. I put in what he SAID. He said it. Its not lying, thats what he actually said.
Just because you dont like what he said, doesnt make it lying. Just because you are getting **** for what you said, doesnt make it lying
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