Shane’s recruiting so far…
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I think we are firmly third from the bottom in the East but I believe fourth from the bottom is within easy reach.
I don’t see the splash that most programs NOT NAMED USC get with a new coach. I’m thinking UT and Josh H.
I think they are systemically better than we are, even if Heupel blew his bowl game - blew it.
I'm still in the optimistic/wait and see camp. Beamer and the staff are putting in the work.
Before throngs of Jeffery's and Lattimore's flock to South Carolina, if they even do, he's going to have to prove himself by overachieving a bit. He doesn't have HBC-type name recognition. Well, he does have the last name, but everyone knows that was his father. Spurrier had already proven himself, as had Lou.
I am still optimistic about Shane though. It's a work in early progress. They just need to do the little things right and get better each year.
I am still optimistic about Shane though. It's a work in early progress. They just need to do the little things right and get better each year.
My biggest issue with Huepel at UT is that all of their last few coaches (Jones and Pruitt) all started with big splashes as well and everyone thought they were back. Huepel started the same way and all UT fans are really excited. The question is, will it be a big first year or two and then back to earth? Or will it be sustained. Those that build slowly but methodically usually do better. I will stick with Beamer on this as he is working his tail off and it will pay off. He is still trying to wash the stink of Muschamp off of this whole program.
Overachieving sums it up. None of us expect top 10 classes or top tier SEC recruiting. We need to play over our heads most of the time to scratch
out some wins when talent-wise we're outclassed. We'll see soon enough if our coaches can out-coach the other guys.
He's going to have to win with less for a while.
Well....the answer is no. I hope he continues to get better though. He's got a great personality and has that "likeability" factor. I hope this continues to make inroads and translates into something real soon. The position we are in a position now is everything I was worried about when he was hired....not gonna be able to land the big commits over other coaches/programs that a name like Spurrier, Holtz (and believe it or not AT some times....Muschamp) did every now and again.
Hey...our roster is better now than in the last year and half though. How we made it out alive last year in SEC play will maybe never happen again in 50 years...so we can't rely on that. You have to have horses to compete in the SEC....we'd better figure out something fast.
Hey...our roster is better now than in the last year and half though. How we made it out alive last year in SEC play will maybe never happen again in 50 years...so we can't rely on that. You have to have horses to compete in the SEC....we'd better figure out something fast.
Right now Beamer needs to decide the direction he wants to go on offense. We are set it seems on the other two phases of the game , other than upgrading the talent. I just do not think satterfield is the answer at oc , or the approach to an offense that is a good one. We need to have an offensive scheme or approach that is one that is attractive to recruits and fans and a special prepare for our opponents . Imo, we need a more uptempo , wide open type scheme, not a pro type approach. It appears what we are currently running is pretty complicated and not easily learned. Muschamp and his staff never seem to have an offensive identity and that hurt us in many ways. We badly need a new identity on offense and I believe we will have that after this year as a change will be coming. You would think Beamers approach would be much different after working with Riley . He even mentioned that is why he left Georgia and went to Oklahoma , was to learn about offense.
Agree, Muschamp's offense $ucked. Way to predictable. We have and have always had the the quality receivers to open up the offense and make it easier for the running game.
I do believe Beamer has the Tedd Lasso "effect". It seems that recruits truly believe there is momentum and he is building something. But there are not many Blue chip recruits that are willing to chance their potential Millions on a rebuild possibility. I do believe Beamer and staff are recruiting a certain type of player. Speed seems to be a common denominator in all these recruits. And length. These db's are longer than what we have recruited in the past. Most of these have been seen in camp so they know there skill sets. I know it seems in years past, when LSU has had their best teams the whole roster seemed like every player was 6' 1.5" and weigh 218lbs and can run like a receiver and hit like a safety. Especially special teams. We will take some of that. The 4 star and 5 star thing does carry some significance in the minds of potential recruits. In years past, when we have reached out and gotten a Golden 5 star, they always commit late in the signing period and have a teaser list of potential big programs other than us that they are considering. Granted, my favorite Gamecock players in the past have been Blue collar 3 Stars, darn it wouldn't hurt occasionally to have a high 5 star commit early and create buzz to bring in more high end players. Especially recently (Kevin Harris, Debo Samuel. Maybe Lonergan will create some long term belief that we are indeed rising. Winning always helps. WE have to win 8 plus and if we get 9 then I think next year might be different. By the way, I am a Gamecock living in Kansas. I saw live the Conner Shaw double OT comeback and their field goal doink off the upright. My oldest son who went to KU but loves his Gamecocks, stood up with the other 80 GC fans and shouted Rock Chalk Gamecock. The Mizzou fans(ready to fight) don't like those words at all- specially during Basketball season. Funny memories of a great Gamecock team.
Muschamp's playbook could fit on a cell phone screen. Not too hard to scout an offense with about 5 plays.
Was the North Carolina Game an anomaly or were we that good? Our offense was fun to watch. A couple of stalled drives in the red zone, or we could have gashed em even worse. The team was ready to play no doubt.
I think it was Beamer Ball wanting to make a statement and the team buying into his message/energy. Hopefully it carries over.
It will not bode well for recruiting if the offense struggles with Rattler at the helm. This is one-shot deal for Satterfield and Beamer to show what the offense can do with a presumed high-caliber QB under center. The offense got a big pass last year b/c we never had a true QB. Won't be the case this year. Even if Rattler is damaged goods, he's still highly regarded.
We were playing an average ACC team. They finished 6-7 with losses to GT (bad), FSU (worse), Pitt and NCSU. They had a good QB but had no idea how to protect him. And maybe Mack just didn't want the mayo bath.
I think it will take 4 or 5 games for Rattler to get his bearings in a completely different offense and coach he had at ou. If he struggles a good bit at first , we may see Kitchens running the O. For all concerned I hope Rattler and Satterfield get it going quick this season , but I have huge doubts . I think Kitchens can help both the running game , Rattler and the offense. But being a gambling man and the tougher schedule along with our oc , I believe it will be very difficult to reach 8 wins in the regular season . And I also left out this the sec and defenses will be much different than he faced at ou !
agree with all you wrote- problem is we got Arky game 2 and they are real good!! they are physical.
Well, it all boils down to what we get in Rattler. If we get 2020 Rattler, it won't matter much what kind of defense he's facing. If we get 2021 Rattler, different story. It depends on which season you believe was the anomaly. I would note, this past season he had a 75% completion rate. Short passes, long passes, whatever. I'd take 75% any day of the week compared to what we've had in recent years.
Suffice it to say, this season is Rattler or bust. We don't really have another legit option at QB on the roster.
Beamer took one for the team for sure.We were playing an average ACC team. They finished 6-7 with losses to GT (bad), FSU (worse), Pitt and NCSU. They had a good QB but had no idea how to protect him. And maybe Mack just didn't want the mayo bath.
Ummmm yeah he coached the team that bitc- slapped us last year. They seem to reload way quicker than we do…. For some odd reason?????
Exactly they are working hard and so are the players so let's root hard for our team this upcoming season so we can see all the hard work paying off on the field!!
Heupel has $25 million NIL money backing him this year and up to $8 million for QB, Nico Lamaleava if he stays 4 yrs so…When you have Peyton Manning bringing influence with his money too?
That was my point. Other teams seem to get it, and we trudge along and will give a new coach 6-8 yrs to “try” to win. Other teams seem to hit the door running. But I will say o am a fan of BEAMER. I just want it all right now. Lok
Until the extremely wealthy Alumni can throw in like the cats at those other schools and can compete at the state level law wise like Texas has aloud. Which the states with no personal income tax beat SC off the bat! Tenn,Tx and Fla! As long as gas is high, TAMU will scrape in the talent. The problem will be seeing the field after a couple years and selfish players wanting to play.
I agree with this.
Right now, our recruiting is ranked 43, 45 and 29 by three of the recruiting services. That's OK. But, "OK" won't cut it. Even Muschamp recruited better than that at the same stage of his tenure here. I know it's early in the recruiting process. But it's early for a lot of teams.
Shane did a very good job coaching last season. When you consider he overachieved with an Offensive Coordinator who never had a Top 50 offense in previous stints as OC, that makes the job Beamer did look even more impressive.
I believe that the job Shane did here as RC was very good. But I believe recruits back then came to play for Spurrier, the legend. So, Beamer really needs to keep overachieving on the field. If somehow he could win 8 and the bowl game this year, that might turn heads. That's going to be tough though.
We need to play a wide open offense, an offense that is fun to play in. It would attract recruits. That's what Dabo did in the beginning.
None of this should be interpreted as being down on Beamer. I believe he has lots of potential.
Couldn't agree more about the offense. Flash and sizzle. Need some offensive hype to bring in the chippers that want exposure. The bowl game was fun to watch- more of that please.
Beamer recruiting so far. Transfer portal looks real good. I think we brought in some players ready to step on the field and contribute in several areas of need. High School recruiting to date. IMO still a lack of the big lineman needed to win in the SEC. That's where it all starts. No blocking no running offense. No running offense and no blocking no passing game. Maybe I should say limited instead of no. We need to pull in a number of the **** lineman on both sides of the ball to get out of the lower rung of the SEC. If we progress to the middle rung will we ever make it to the top rung??? Again we've got to get top flight talent on both sides of the ball. Recruiting so far. I don't think we are there.
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