Sharpe drafted ahead of J-Money...
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he has more talent than Rhodes and is a big guy who can rebound, score and pass pretty well so i'm sure in some workouts he had scouts drooling.
Meanwhile the PR guys just crapped their pants with that pick. There is no way he lasts in the league more than 3 years without getting into trouble --- and can you imagine him hanging out with Rasheed? What a nightmare
Meanwhile the PR guys just crapped their pants with that pick. There is no way he lasts in the league more than 3 years without getting into trouble --- and can you imagine him hanging out with Rasheed? What a nightmare
Coach34 said:
Actually, according to you, we do know. You said that Mike Davis has a good history with these type players and was getting a lot out of Sharpe. Right before he flunked out. So the answer is still the same for Sharpe. He will do nothing except screw up in spite of what the mental giants known as JR and Coach (separated at birth) would have you believe.
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of the NBA taking a thug.
Sharpe won't make it because of his character, and the Pistons sure won't win a Championship because of him.
Sharpe won't make it because of his character, and the Pistons sure won't win a Championship because of him.
some of you like to jump on me and a couple of others because we dont always agree with your typical ********. Alot of people here piled on Fishwater about Jamont- yet tonight we see who was more correct.
Heydog threw out his ******** on me- well guess what? Another example of Talent > Character. Sharpe was almost drafted in the 17'ing 1st round. Cry about it all you want D@A, you watched it just like I did tonight.
Heydog threw out his ******** on me- well guess what? Another example of Talent > Character. Sharpe was almost drafted in the 17'ing 1st round. Cry about it all you want D@A, you watched it just like I did tonight.
A. I never said talent < character. I firmly believe you need both to win and be successful. You think you just need talent, sort of like what Croom said and started the whole debate. "We have character, we'll continue to add talent to it." In other words, we have the right mindset, we just need better players to compete for championships. You think talent enough is alone.
B. As yet another NBA draft goes by without any Mississippi State player being drafted, I have to wonder, how do we keeping winning in basketball when we can't get a single guy draft-worthy to play here?
B. As yet another NBA draft goes by without any Mississippi State player being drafted, I have to wonder, how do we keeping winning in basketball when we can't get a single guy draft-worthy to play here?
1. Obviously talent + character is the best scenario. But if you have to pick one, give me talent every time. Randy Moss has no character, but under the right coach in a good situation, he is the best WR in football. Give me talent over character, because talent gives you a chance to be better.
2. We all know the NBA and College basketball are two different worlds. We have seen time after time that great college players dont mean NBA success. LR was an AA, JJ Reddick is one of college basketball's best shooters of all-time. Yet these two wont ever do much in the NBA. And that is just to name two guys.
2. We all know the NBA and College basketball are two different worlds. We have seen time after time that great college players dont mean NBA success. LR was an AA, JJ Reddick is one of college basketball's best shooters of all-time. Yet these two wont ever do much in the NBA. And that is just to name two guys.
(total thread hijack) what was your problem with Croom's comment? He's saying the exact same thing. And Randy Moss is the best WR in pro football regardless of his circumstances. He only thrives when surrounded by character guys. It's not a coincidence. Talent alone doesn't win jack. Talent doesn't give you a chance to be better when it's in a jail cell or flunked out of school.
What a terrible analogy this second bit is. Roberts went late second round. Reddick was a lottery pick, so obviously someone thought he'd be good. This isn't about what they do in the pros, this is about the evaluation. Evidently, MSU has had exactly one draftable player in the past 4 years. And yet, we keep winning, despite not having players good enough to even sniff the NBA. How is that?
What a terrible analogy this second bit is. Roberts went late second round. Reddick was a lottery pick, so obviously someone thought he'd be good. This isn't about what they do in the pros, this is about the evaluation. Evidently, MSU has had exactly one draftable player in the past 4 years. And yet, we keep winning, despite not having players good enough to even sniff the NBA. How is that?
is with all the character talk ********. Enough already. The simple fact is we are way more talented defensively than we were when he arrived ( and yes, he totally gets credit for that). It's not that we have so much more damn character. We have some guys that are NFL talents playing defense to go with talented back-ups, people are scoring less against us, and we are staying in games with chances to win. Thats why we are better.
**edited to add**- all of our arrests the last 4 years show all the character we have. We have better players, plain and simple
**edited to add**- all of our arrests the last 4 years show all the character we have. We have better players, plain and simple
not having guys like Darren Williams, Adrian Griffin, Marvin Byrdsong and others who obviously had character issues isn't a part of the reason we're winning more? You don't think flushing those guys wasn't part of the solution?
Outside of Pegues, who on our defense do you see as a NFL talent? Croom's first unit had Fields and Dockery, they're both still in the league. Who else is getting in? And who's telling you more they're more talented? I guaran-damn-tee you the 2004 defense was more highly recruited than the 2007 defense. You don't think there's just a bit of coaching involved? And you don't think it's character that makes that lesser player seem better than the 5-star thug bust? You really don't think that?
Croom sells character for the reason you sell condoms. It's what he does. It's his hook. It's what he uses to get the families of players, even talented ones, to try and sign here. And he's going to do it for as long as he coaches here. Get used to it, or stop listening.
Still haven't answered my basketball question.
Outside of Pegues, who on our defense do you see as a NFL talent? Croom's first unit had Fields and Dockery, they're both still in the league. Who else is getting in? And who's telling you more they're more talented? I guaran-damn-tee you the 2004 defense was more highly recruited than the 2007 defense. You don't think there's just a bit of coaching involved? And you don't think it's character that makes that lesser player seem better than the 5-star thug bust? You really don't think that?
Croom sells character for the reason you sell condoms. It's what he does. It's his hook. It's what he uses to get the families of players, even talented ones, to try and sign here. And he's going to do it for as long as he coaches here. Get used to it, or stop listening.
Still haven't answered my basketball question.
Coach34 said:
....does not address the actual post, but some other post you made in which you were right. I never doubted your assertion that Sharpe would be drafted before Jamont. It wouldn't have shocked me to see it go the other way, but the NBA draft, especially the second round, is about size and potential. Sharpe has both.</p>
The point of the post is that he is a moron and will screw it up regardless of who the coach is. You lauded Mike Davis when Sharpe was playing there for being able to connect with him when Ricky could not. Shortly thereafter he was off the team, and you looked like a dumbass, aGAIN. You and your roommate JR are the only two out there who think Sharpe is salvageable or even worth a risk. The guy has proven over and over and over again he can't be trusted. With anything. That's not going to magically change in Detroit. If anything, their gangstas are probably better shots than the thugs in Bham, and the next time he gets left in a gutter somewhere, he will be dead.
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