Since according to C34, I've been in "hiding..."

DowntownDawg

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...I'll come out of my hiding place for a few minutes.

Seriously, you won't see me posting much on the weekend, win or lose, due to familial responsibilities.

I think we all pretty much feel the same way, and everything that I've thought I've already seen posted.

I will say that this is why SEC teams have no business going on the road to play these games. This is the exact reason that other schools fork out the $$ to buy the games they need, because they know that anybody is vulnerable in that situation. A couple of key turnovers, some bad calls by the officials, and all of the sudden the home school realizes they are in it in the second half and turns it up about 5 notches.

Not to rehash it very much, but we had a bunch of things go against us - bad calls, turnovers - that often happen on the road. The depressing thing about it is that we would've overcome all that crap had our coaching staff not made two huge errors: 1) Giving up on the run in the second half, and 2) Leaving Lee in to try to lead a come back. The turnovers and bad calls don't bother me. Those are going to happen. However, the coaching errors are extremely troublesome, and I don't see how they can be corrected, barring somebody getting the ax.

For the record, I am not surprised to see C34 on here in full gloat mode, but I find it extremely hypocritical (again, not surprised.) The offense did exactly what he had been calling for them to do all summer. We opened it up, spread the field, threw short passes, etc. And the same result happened that happened against Arkansas last year (without any good reason to in this game), more yards, more turnovers, and a big fat L. Had we just ridden Dixon like we should've, we'd be sitting here arguing about how ugly the win was, but we'd still be 1-0. At least you got what you wanted, Coach.

The season is pretty much aborted now. No matter what we do, we left one out on the field. The best case scenario is to try to get to 6 wins and the Pizza bowl and keep our recruiting class intact. I do agree with Peaches on one thing, though. Croom's got 23 games left, barring a bowl game and/or winning season coming.
 
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except that the season is aborted. I think this will be a big wake up call to the players and an eye-opener to the coaches. The TO's and ridiculous penalties did us in, but Croom made some dumb decisions for sure. We let them stick around. Our DLine is not worse than La. Tech, we just had the elements working against us.

We still need Croom to succeed. We're stuck with him. I can't stomach the fact of giving that guy a couple mil just to get out of town.

I'm with you though. Can Croom get his own coaching mistakes corrected? This is what is worrying me.

Ed: Oh yeah, and <17> Peaches. I don't know why anyone responds to his **** anymore. Whether he's right or wrong, he's just trying to rub it in and he just gets too much pleasure out of watching us suck and lose. So who gives a **** about him.
 

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...if we still start out 3-1. Not impossible, but damn close. Through the first 28 minutes of the first half, we looked like a freaking football team - and we can hang with most teams if we play like that. Then came the special teams meltdown(s), and poor officiating and coaching in the second half.
 
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knowing what could possibly, and ultimately DID, happen. He wasn't thinking straight, started playing to keep from getting beat, all timid and ****, instead of playing to win.

Hopefully he learns from it. Damn you think he wouldv'e learned from the Egg Bowl.
 

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I get absolutely no joy in us looking like dogshit. There was no joy in me as I walked out of that stadium getting harassed by the tech mf'ers...that I can assure you.

However, i'm not as hurt as many of you because this happening is not as big of a surprise. Some of us here have been telling you our coaches suck. We have been telling you these assclowns arent the answer. We knew our OL wasnt very good. We knew last year was made possible by EJ- not Crooms. So when something like this happens, its kind of expected and not that big of a shock...
This board was created because those guys saw the writing on the wall with Jackie before everyone else did and spoke up about it. Guys like me, Arrow, and Saddawg are the Sixpack- Crooms Edition- we have seen this **** coming before many of you.

It will be all over in 23 more games...and Byrn will hit a HR with his new hire, and we can all be on the same page again...
 

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....and you will kindly remember that I agreed with you that we could easily lose this game.

We both agree that the coaching staff failed in many ways. However, in my opinion, they failed because they did exactly what you had been begging them to do all summer - throw it more, open it up, etc. They got away from M-State football: running the ball, winning time of possession, field position (we had none largely due to Blake McAdams), etc. Had we done that, we would've won. They did what you wanted and we lost. Just like we did against Arkansas last year. Just like we did in the Henig years.

Edit: In any case, start the clock. Get him out of town if he can't beat that. He's got a lot to do to make up for that debacle.
 

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...when in doubt, just hand it off to 24 and 29. Our line is not as good, but they were good enough to get it down the field one time to score with Dixon and Ducre running.
 
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maybe even the entire season. No more bipolarisms and all that. I'm giving him until then. I want to see how he responds. Many good football teams have dropped a lower tier game at the beginning the season before and went on to do good things, and their fans were saying the same **** we are right now. I mean it's not like we've ever seen a consistent winner at MSU, at least not in my lifetime. Rockey and Jackie lost these type games too. We got hit with a stroke of unexpected bad luck (gun wielders) and some key injuries. I want to see if they will step the <17> up.
 

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they threw the ball more because Tech was loading the box on us when we got in the I...They were going man on our WR's and loading it up, thats why we threw more. However, some of the plays we run are terribly designed. We had 3rd and 7 once and our WR's are running 30+ yard routes...we have too many WR's in the same area on others that are leading to Turnovers...
We ran the Spread option once for 10 yards and didnt run it again the entire game.

They threw it more, but they really arent doing what I want them to do...And for the record, I never want more passes thrown than runs, but it should be close to even...
 

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the board count-down ticker reflect the number of games left to endure under this pitiful excuse for a head coach. Twenty-three. Two followed by three. XXIII. Viente Tres.
 

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They threw it more, but they really arent doing what I want them to do...And for the record, I never want more passes thrown than runs, but it should be close to even...
Same here. What I meant by opening it up was a more balanced attack, so that teams couldn't just sell out on the run. I never ever wanted us to throw more than we run. If that is happening, you have the result that we got sat. night.

While our offense sucked ***, I didn't like the fact that we showed new wrinkles to our offense that were actually successful. The screens to Robinson and the few spread option plays would have been nice to save for Auburn. I mean it was fun to watch on the 2nd drive, but anything that could give us an advantage against Auburn, would have helped. It's almost as if Croom showed the new wrinkles to get a pat on the back from the fans and reporters for opening up the offense. Hope you enjoy that pat on the back Croom. You deserve it. Idiot...
 

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some of us allowed ourselves to enjoy last season and not get too negative about this season while still understanding we could possibly lay a turd on Saturday night. Being a State fan one must always realize there could be a dark cloud looming just over the horizon, and thus should enjoy any and all success. I feel bad for those of you who spent your time complaining about how ugly our 8 wins were last year, especially if we win up winning only 4 or 5 this year.

Just for the record, I've been saying that Woody needs to go for quite some time.

Regardless, I'm not ready to call it a season just yet. We'll need to pull off some unforeseen stuff in order to win 6 games, but then again I thought last year was doomed after the LSU game. Losing to LaTech is obviously much, much, much, much worse than LSU and it was actually a should win game, but the issue still stands that I thought last year was hopeless after LSU and they ended up winning 8 games. I'll reserve final judgement until they get a few games under their belts. Needless to say, if we drop another should win game, we might as well shut it down.
 

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You take a perverse amount of joy in this. I bet you could not wait to get home and get online after that game. </p>
 
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