When discussing the WR corps at his presser today, Beamer said they can’t put it all on Legette and that others would have to step up. He mentioned a few names, one of which was Doty who Beamer said would have to come along in his WR development.
So, is Doty a QB anymore?
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Emergency maybe. Especially with the way Sellers looked. Plus I think Doty can make a decent living as a WR in the NFL.
I hope I’m wrong, but I just don’t see it. It’s crazy to me that he’s taking snaps from Lewis and Harbor.
He’s got good size, good hands and speed. I think he could do some damage in the slot and the middle of the field. They will rotate all those guys anyway, he just gives a different type of matchup problem.
You probably didn’t see Joyner being our feature RB either lol. (I know I didn’t). But what do I know I’m a stupid fan
Doty seems to be doing a decent job. He's probably not going to be a star, but he's made some catches.
We need a deep threat to back the db's off the line of scrimmage. It was awesome last year watching our guys be up on press coverage. Now there is so much space and the dink is available as is the run up the middle. WE need Harbour streaking down the field. Where is he?
He was in for 9 snaps versus UGA. He’s still learning how to play the position and learning how to run routes. If he’s slow coming out of a break because he’s unsure of the route or runs the wrong route, he won’t be much help and could run into another players route which could result in an interception like almost happened on Saturday when he ran the wrong route.
Have we abandoned the halfback passing,i.e.,utilizing Dak and or Luke? Seems like that could be option to throw at some of the competition.
I wouldn’t mind him getting reps at both because we can never have enough QBs but I’ll like to see Sellers as our #2.
I see Doty as a QB getting reps at WR. I'm not quite ready to place the #2 QB lable on Sellers right now. Sellers has shown that he is capable, but he was playing against Furman. Our expectations will be for him to excel as he did against Furman against SEC talent. As for Doty, he's an athlete and available. If the O line can hold their own the remainder of the season, we will win.
Why would a coach risk the guy you are counting on as your #2 QB at WR? Injury risk is pretty significant!
I think a change has been made at #2 QB - unless the thought is ''if Doty gets hurt, we have Sellers to fall back on''.
I think a change has been made at #2 QB - unless the thought is ''if Doty gets hurt, we have Sellers to fall back on''.
I’ve heard some evaluators say Doty gets gritty yards that some other guys don’t get. Like falling forward for 2 extra yards. He’s definitely serviceable at WR. He played the position early in high school and he knows the offense.
The young guys will probably pass him in time. Also, Sellers can do things we’ve never seen. So, there’s no reason to keep Doty at QB at this point.
The young guys will probably pass him in time. Also, Sellers can do things we’ve never seen. So, there’s no reason to keep Doty at QB at this point.
Doty played that same Furman team and didn't look good at all. And hasn't really looked good at any point in his career here at QB. I've seen enough of Doty to against SEC competition to know he ain't it. Sellers may or may not be either. We don't know. But we do on Doty.
Yeah, I mean, come on. This is his 4th year in the program and he hasn't distinguished himself at QB yet. How likely is it to happen next year? It's a small sample size to use the Furman game, but you have to go with what you've got. Doty came in and was throwing at receiver's knees. Sellers came in and dropped dimes.
I don't buy that. A guy with that speed doesn't need to memorize playbooks right now; send him long and he'll draw two guys, two guys that won't be defending elsewhere. If he doesn't draw two guys, drop one in there and see what happens. If you've got him running routes that read coverages right now, then you're a bigger idiot than whoever is keeping him on the bench. I think properly utilized abilities mitigates interception potential.
Seems to me there's a lot more to playing wide receiver and calling plays than just telling a guy to go long every time. This is SEC football, not the sandlot.
I get that. Doty did not look good against Furman and in a lot of people mind, he is not the one. My thought is if you play him at WR keep him there and verbally state that Sellers is #2. Going forward, we know that Doty will be a WR next year and his reps can go to other QB's.
I get that it's not the sandlot, but it's baffling how much we tend to struggle to get our most talented guys "ready". Nyck is playing. So he has some grasp. Just call the damn go route and tell Ratt to throw it as far you can. It either works, is an incompletion, or a long punt (INT). It's kind of becoming a trend to hear Beamer say "we need to get "X player" the ball more". Or "X player needs to play more". It's kind of your call bud. I'm not a fan of Bell. But it was maddening hearing he and Satt talk about how needs to get more plays EVERY DAMN WEEKED. It's not just Nyck. How about Russell? We know he had a great catch on the Sellers TD. But also had a terrific grab to convert a 3rd down when Gauthier was in. It's not like there is a plethora of proven options. When you're starting a converted QB at WR, these questions are going to be asked.
I get the frustration to some extent, but Beamer's been pumping the brakes on the Harbor hype since he got here. I mean this is a kid who played very little wide receiver in high school. He has a ton of natural athletic ability (tall and fast), but his wide receiver ability is extremely raw.
Just because Doty is a converted quarterback doesn't mean he can't be a great receiver either. I don't think this is an either/or conversation, where having Doty on the field instead of Harbor means the coaching staff doesn't know what they're doing.
If we're having this conversation next fall, then I think these questions would be a lot more reasonable.
Doty's not new around these parts. He's been around a while and has failed to distinguish himself at any position. The most obvious explanation is the most likely one.
Harbor has seemingly failed to distinguish himself at WR. The most obvious explanation is the most likely one.
That's the dumbest post anyone has ever made on this forum.
Harbor is a true freshman with 3 games under his belt. Doty is practically a senior citizen in comparison. 4th year player vs true freshman.
Here's your sign.
This is Nyckoles Harbor. Not your run of the mill college receiver. Historical usage of college and pro burners abounds. It’s not necessary to play chess when you have that elite speed. Plus the attention he’ll draw when he’s on the field. That’s fine, keep him off the field until he ‘learns the routes’; he’ll do it for some other school next year.
He's got a ton of natural athletic ability. He's a true freshman who didn't play receiver in high school. It's a brand new position, and he's trying to figure it out on the fly in the SEC.
I imagine he's the kind of guy who will figure things out as we go along and earn more and more playing time (I hope!). It doesn't make a ton of sense to just throw him out there because he can run fast.
He was a 5* ATH, and everyone had him projected as a WR/TE.
Really? Because from what I remember one of the main reasons for his choosing us was because we’d allow him to play WR. Seems everyone else wanted his ability at DE, the primary position he played in HS.
Why are we comparing a true freshman whose been on campus a few months to a 4th year player?
It’s dumb.
It’s dumb.
Doty has 3 years of eligibility left, which is crazy since it feels like he's been here forever already. I think we see him stay at Carolina for those years, but don't think you see him at QB. I think he can develop into a Julian Edelman type slot receiver. I agree that he has NFL potential there if he takes the time to keep developing at WR for the remainder of his eligibility, he's a great check-down option with the way he falls forward for his catches.
I know people want to see more of Harbor but he needs to develop more. And I think that Doty is just a more talented/athletic guy than Lewis.
I know people want to see more of Harbor but he needs to develop more. And I think that Doty is just a more talented/athletic guy than Lewis.
Every service had him as an ATH or TE. Nobody had him as a 5* DE.
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He's going to have to really focus on his quickness and agility to be able to do that. He doesn't have it right now. Top end speed is adequate...not great, but not bad.