Something to watch for on Saturday...

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Our O-Line is complacent and has regressed. Came into the season overconfident. This is now a pivotal time to put up or shut up. We have to get physical and start blowing people off the line of scrimmage. Fundamental blocking at the point of attack. Both Kaytron and Nick need to gain over a hundred yards. We need to do this versus UCLA or probably will not happen against anyone.

Someone needs to light a fire under their asses. From what I've seen these last several years, I don't know who that might be. There used to be a saying, "play angry." Is that too toxic now?
 
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Moogy

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UCLA opponents:

UNLV: 148 yards rushing
New Mexico: 298 yards rushing
Northwestern: 199 yards rushing
Utah: 286 yards rushing

If Penn State fails to rush for 200+ yards against the Bruins, 10-2 ain't happening.
I'd much rather see them work on the passing game, since UCLA has some semblance of a respectable passing defense. Work on the short passing game (non-screens) and deeper routes, and worry less about the intermediate.

Gaining efficiency and effectiveness there is much more important to our longer-term success than running through a wet paper towel.
 

Moogy

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They played many 5 down lineman, or 5 men on the line of scrimmage sets.
No. They generally ran 3 DL, and would often have an LB (44) up to bring pressure from the edge. Very, very rarely (obvious short yardage, etc.), they'd bring another LB up on the other edge. That they were able to bring pressure, and stop our run, without having to dedicate extra resources to do so is what made them so effective, overall. 3 DL + a LB who'd often come off the edge ... 2 more LBs ... and that's it ... 5 other guys to play the receivers.
 

WaffleShopper

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I'd much rather see them work on the passing game, since UCLA has some semblance of a respectable passing defense. Work on the short passing game (non-screens) and deeper routes, and worry less about the intermediate.

Gaining efficiency and effectiveness there is much more important to our longer-term success than running through a wet paper towel.
Lol. That “respectable passing defense” is 2nd worst in the entire country in passing defense efficiency. Their pass defense is terrible. The only reason they don’t give up more yards passing is because their run defense is also hot garbage.
 
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ApexLion

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Penn State's blocking of the outside zone this year has be laughably inept.

Basically ends up being:
"Five heavy guys sliding sideways, their bodies turned perpendicular to the line of scrimmage, in their own backfield. trying to lean sideways into defenders but getting knocked further into their own backfield." Most of the time, the result is clownish even when playing glorified JuCo teams like FIU, Nevada, and Villanova. Against quality teams? Ugh
It was not that bad last year - though even then it was not something they did well. How the staff could watch that week after week - and continue to run that play as often as they did - with ZERO indication of improvement - has been stunning.

They are not - have not been - overly proficient in their other schemes - but generally a hell of a lot better than with that outside zone. Are they just too slow and cumbersome up front to run outside zone? Is it a pure "talent" issue? Who knows - but it was not THIS bad last year (it wasn't good last year, but not this bad), with basically the same guys?.

One should fully expect PSU to put up big numbers in every aspect of the game on Saturday - UCLA may very well be the biggest dumpster fire mismatch of the season (even more so than Villanova). And again vs Northwestern.

But the offense in its current condition is no guarantee of success against even Iowa or Indiana - and certainly not OSU (MSU, Nebraska, and Rutgers are bad enough on defense that PSU should at least have reasonable offensive success).
Maybe things will improve in October and going forward. We will find out soon enough.

The huge propagandas coming into the 2025 season:

- PSU has a Round 1- Pick 1 draft pick at QB (That one was just laughable)
- PSU has the best two-headed monster tailback tandem in college football (Their best year was their freshman year. Since then, they have been more reminiscent of the 2020/21 backfield - some occasional glimmers, but mostly "meh").
- The PSU offensive line is going to dominate (While the dominating performance against Oregon in the B10 game was at least some justifiable glimmer of hope, the overwhelming body of evidence was not.)
- PSU recruited three top-end WR in the portal - that will solve the issues with the PSU pass game. (PSU picked up the #5 WR from the USC offense; a guy who's numbers may have looked promising - until you watched and realized those numbers came as a glorified wingback as the de-facto "run game" in a Warren Moon/Houston Oilers-esque Run-and-Shoot offense; and a G5 player who apparently had his punt return against Iowa running on a continuous loop in the dreams of the pumpers).

Lots of responsibility to be shared with the "sideline personnel" as well as the on-field personnel. But the end result is what it is, regardless of the responsibility or causes.

Hope is always a good thing - but ignoring reality doesn't help.
I agree. We suck again.
 

RochLion

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What I would hope is that they pass to setup the run game today. Try to build up Drew's confidence in throwing down field to our new receivers. We're going to need that in the coming weeks. What I expect though is that they'll work on the OLine and run game and drew will be limited to short passes to the TE in the middle of the field.
 
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Frank Leonard retired after last season. He reminded me of a drill instructor type, a get in your face coach. He would tear in to the lineman, I guess like the bad cop to Traut's good cop personality. I have thought that part of the struggles with the offensive line was losing Leonard, someone very few people even knew was on the coaching staff until he left
If you read Jerry Kramer's book "Instant Replay" he talks about how hard Lombardi would push the Packers OL....running drills over and over till they executed their power sweep to perfection...he states how he would have the pulling guards timed on how quickly they were able to reach their assignments.
After watching our OL the first 4 games I am wondering if to much headline reading about how great they would be has created some over confidence.
 
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If I see the damn wildcat one more time, I’m going to lose my ****!
Not sure what the **** refers to...mind? head? cool? or a word that sound like sheet? If the latter remember it is healthy to empty your bowels daily! CJF is doing his part for our gastrointestinal health!
 
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Moogy

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Does anyone else find it odd that we’re still discussing how the confidence of our former 5-star QB recruit needs to be bolstered in the 5th game of his 3rd year as a starter?

Or am I truly living in the Bizarro Reality?

We're also still discussing Sandusky's *possible* (i.e. not possible, at all, in any way) innocence long after that psycho child molester was long ago rightfully convicted. We're also still hung up on JoePa mythology, many, many moons after its relevancy.

Stuff's crazy all around, isn't it?