SOS for WR coach

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If Muschamp would have hired SOS as OC he might still be here. SOS still wanted to coach evidenced by him coaching in the spring football league. SOS got tired of all the recruiting BS.
 
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Didn't Spurrier JR and/or his wife snub the University on their way out? JR. was getting lots if criticism for being a horrible recruiting coordinator. And his wife got snippy online after they got the boot. If his last name wasn’t Spurrier he would be flippin burgers somewhere instead of coaching.
 
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18IsTheMan

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Didn't Spurrier JR and/or his wife snub the University on their way out? JR. was getting lots if criticism for being a horrible recruiting coordinator. And his wife got snippy online after they got the boot. If his last name wasn’t Spurrier he would be flippin burgers somewhere instead of coaching.
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The OP was in jest, though we did have far more productive WR during the time Jr was WR coach. I know there's a million ways to dismiss the production at the position. There always are.

That said, I'm am not generally in favor of just going out and hiring guys who used to be here, which is what fans typically suggest at the outset.
 

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They came because of his Daddy's cachet. I'd rather bring a man like Mangus in here. He can coach anything offensive and he gets after it. Junior coasts.
He turned several low 3 star prospects into NFL players. he coached Alshon, Kenny, Sidney, Pharoh, Bruce, Ace, Tori etc. The record book is full of his players.
 

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He turned several low 3 star prospects into NFL players. he coached Alshon, Kenny, Sidney, Pharoh, Bruce, Ace, Tori etc. The record book is full of his players.

Hmmm, the OP was in jest, but when you put it that way, it doesn't sound half bad.
 

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The OP was in jest, though we did have far more productive WR during the time Jr was WR coach. I know there's a million ways to dismiss the production at the position. There always are.

That said, I'm am not generally in favor of just going out and hiring guys who used to be here, which is what fans typically suggest at the outset.

He didn't do that. Daddy's prolific offense and underestimated player value (in some of those cases) did that.

Like I said...haha
 

18IsTheMan

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Proving there are ways to overestimate it or misinterpret it also.

Fans will always find ways to dismiss the accomplishments of coaches they don't like and the failures/shortcomings of coaches they do like.

I'm a simple man and, for me, the proof is always in the pudding.

He was not good at all as recruiting coordinator, but it was the head coach who made that call.
 

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Fans will always find ways to dismiss the accomplishments of coaches they don't like and the failures/shortcomings of coaches they do like.

I'm a simple man and, for me, the proof is always in the pudding.

He was not good at all as recruiting coordinator, but it was the head coach who made that call.
It's not a matter of like or don't like, but he was way "better" riding daddy's coattails than he ever was before of since. It was Daddy who stirred the drink on that offense and Mangus was his principal helper.
 

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He didn't do that. Daddy's prolific offense and underestimated player value (in some of those cases) did that.
Steve Spurrier's offense was far from prolific in his time here. Hard to imagine not giving Jr credit for that run of WRs we had. Not like he just got lucky on a couple.

And it's not Jr's fault he was put in a position where he was predestined to fail.
 

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Steve Spurrier's offense was far from prolific in his time here. Hard to imagine not giving Jr credit for that run of WRs we had. Not like he just got lucky on a couple.

And it's not Jr's fault he was put in a position where he was predestined to fail.

Yes, our offense was never plug and play like SOS's offenses at UF. As you say, it's hard to dismiss the production at the position on that basis.

And, yes, agree. SOS made the call to put Jr in the position as recruiting coordinator. It was an ill-fated move on Sr's part not to realize his own son's skill set.

Having said all that, again, my OP in jest. Just like to throw some things out there from time to time that I know rankle some people.
 

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Steve Spurrier's offense was far from prolific in his time here. Hard to imagine not giving Jr credit for that run of WRs we had. Not like he just got lucky on a couple.

And it's not Jr's fault he was put in a position where he was predestined to fail.
It wasn't unerringly prolific but it had periods of prolificity. Those receivers came to play for Spurrier and to do what they did. I'm positing that Alshon Jeffery and people approximately as talented would have been standout receivers with Mortimer Snerd coaching the position.
 

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It wasn't unerringly prolific but it had periods of prolificity. Those receivers came to play for Spurrier and to do what they did. I'm positing that Alshon Jeffery and people approximately as talented would have been standout receivers with Mortimer Snerd coaching the position.
He was a part of the Stoops turnaround at OU, winning a NC ring (the only one they have since 1985). Leach hired him to coach WRs at WSU, and took him to MSU when he went there. Mike Stoops and Mike Leach both found value in him. He's a good WR coach.
 
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Yes, our offense was never plug and play like SOS's offenses at UF. As you say, it's hard to dismiss the production at the position on that basis.

And, yes, agree. SOS made the call to put Jr in the position as recruiting coordinator. It was an ill-fated move on Sr's part not to realize his own son's skill set.

Having said all that, again, my OP in jest. Just like to throw some things out there from time to time that I know rankle some people.
I can get behind that. 😂
He was a part of the Stoops turnaround at OU, winning a NC ring (the only one they have since 1985). Leach hired him to coach WRs at WSU, and took him to MSU when he went there. Mike Stoops and Mike Leach both found value in him. He's a good WR coach.
It was a buddy-buddy thing. Plus, it was a chance to filch the REAL Spurrier's concepts. That was his only conceivable value.
 

18IsTheMan

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Jr. had 7 kids - he had no time to recruit that was a foolish move.

I'm not sure why fans are always so quick to bash Jr for being a bad recruiting coordinator but you rarely hear criticism for SOS putting him in that role. If your dad is legendary, HOF-bound coach Steve Spurrier and he says "I think you'll be a good recruiting coordinator", I think you listen.
 

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I'm not sure why fans are always so quick to bash Jr for being a bad recruiting coordinator but you rarely hear criticism for SOS putting him in that role. If your dad is legendary, HOF-bound coach Steve Spurrier and he says "I think you'll be a good recruiting coordinator", I think you listen.
Start a thread about Spurrier's missteps and I'll weigh in. This one lends itself better to bashing Junior.