Southern Cal and UCLA to Big 10
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College football is getting so stupid.
You would think these schools and conferences commissioners are brokering international trade deals the way they are trying to crush one another financially.
All of this realignment stuff is an engineered crisis. College football was fine how it was. It wasn't going anywhere. It's not like the Big10 was going to get put of of business somehow.
Money sucks.
You would think these schools and conferences commissioners are brokering international trade deals the way they are trying to crush one another financially.
All of this realignment stuff is an engineered crisis. College football was fine how it was. It wasn't going anywhere. It's not like the Big10 was going to get put of of business somehow.
Money sucks.
But a Twitter rumor put out by Jon Wilner, a very connected Cal Berkeley guy. Not just some nobody.
If this is true, the B1G just became the monster conference. TV coverage from NY/NJ, DC area, throughout the Midwest to SoCal.
Coast to Coast. Revenue about to become obscene.
Coast to Coast. Revenue about to become obscene.
Well, he was going to do that if he stayed where he was. He just got to do it in a sexier location for more money.
They picked up one major football power and a big market. But how competitive the league is at winning championships will matter in the long run. And the southern tier is ascendant in terms of population. Also, SEC coverage is by no means confined to a particular region.
I've been told by coworkers in NY/NJ that the SEC is what they watch on a weekly basis.
2 Points. (you may want to mark one as more than a guess)
1)Don't assume this is the last move the B1G is going to make, and don't be surprised if it happens sooner than later.
2) As for winning championships, the B1G has the biggest payout as of today, not hard to imagine it will increase significantly immediately. Championships non withstanding.
I expect the Big 10 to go ahead and get Oregon at a minimum. I expect the SEC will go ahead and get Florida State and/or UPC at a minimum, if not Oklahoma State and the Kansas schools. Forget exit fees; forget GOR fees. This move to super-conferences is going to happen.
You may want to get adjusted to 2 super-conferences soon.
Again, don't assume the BIG is done with its moves, or that geographics will be a deciding factor.
Trimming of excess will be a factor in the 2 super conferences.
I don't assume that, as I hope you don't assume that the SEC is done, either. Are these conferences about to subsume the ACC?
Nothing other than hearsay, and not involving any specific conference, but some clemson people I know started saying there is smoke about movement.
Is the B10 even an option, or is the SEC the foregone conclusion?
Does ND even have the same exit fee that the others have since they technically aren't a football member?
I'm a traditionalist, so I hate all of this. But at this point, I'm in favor of just ripping off the band-aid and moving on to the super conferences sooner rather than later. The Big12 is left as a shell of itself. The PAC-12 won't be far behind. As you said, if ND moves to the BIG, the ACC is left in a precarious spot. If Oregon and/or ND make the move to the BIG10, I think the SEC should just go ahead and pull the trigger on raiding the ACC and forming a 20 or 24-team super conference. Go ahead and send simultaneous invitations to UNC, Duke, FSU, and Clemson. If you want to get to 24, you might also consider Kansas, VT, WVU, NC State, or even Arizona/Arizona State. The best of whatever is left behind becomes sitting ducks for the BIG10, so you might as well try to get everything that looks good in a first strike.
The big elephant in the room for me is: Stanford...best academic institution in the PAC12...national following...
I always wished for NC State and VT to come to the SEC...if you go to UNC boards they are feeling slighted somehow...
I guess they thought if the BIG10 expanded, they would come for UVA and UNC....I guess not....
A lot of those UNC fans are now wanting to get into the SEC....I hope they never get into the SEC...
The ACC is becoming a lot less relevant now...
Thank you John Swofford for making the ACC what it is....a mediocre athletic conference...
I guess they thought if the BIG10 expanded, they would come for UVA and UNC....I guess not....
A lot of those UNC fans are now wanting to get into the SEC....I hope they never get into the SEC...
The ACC is becoming a lot less relevant now...
Thank you John Swofford for making the ACC what it is....a mediocre athletic conference...
If we are going full steam, let SEC bring in Baylor, OK St, Texas Tech and West VA from SWC; AZ, AZ St, Stanford and Oregon from PAC 10 and Boston College, Syracuse, Miami and Fla St from the ACC. Wouldn't be bad for MBB, WBB or BB either.
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I never said SEC is done. Just the B1G will even exceed their financial superiority that exists now over all other conferences.
So maybe the SEC will just have to keep beating them on the field anyway while being only slightly less rich.
Most of those schools won't rate early membership in the Power Two. They will be the scraps after the choice cuts are consumed. Think of how fortunate we are.
They'll wind up in the Second Wave, maybe. No one is going to want to be left out, but some will be.
It's no time to get left behind. The ACC is getting left behind. It's on the verge of Group of Five status. I expect the SEC will fare well in the long run. Being the best football conference most years will count for something.
Clemson academics not suitable for the Big 10.
The Big Ten is not an option for Clemson. Clemson is not AAU. Every Big Ten team that has been offered is AAU. Nebraska lost their AAU designation after joining the Big Ten.
Basically this is all ESPN (SEC) versus Fox (Big Ten). That is who is calling the shots.
I firmly believe that in 3- 5 years we will be looking at 2 super conferences with about 30 teams in both.
The B1G and SEC will keep their nomenclature, but everything will be unrecognizable as we know it. Most big rivalries will go the way of Oklahoma - Nebraska, Pitt- Penn St, UF-Miami. Scheduling will probably resemble the NFL model.
Truly, we all felt that the super conference(s) would be coming, but perhaps not this quickly.
The B1G and SEC will keep their nomenclature, but everything will be unrecognizable as we know it. Most big rivalries will go the way of Oklahoma - Nebraska, Pitt- Penn St, UF-Miami. Scheduling will probably resemble the NFL model.
Truly, we all felt that the super conference(s) would be coming, but perhaps not this quickly.
That is such 2020 reasoning. lol.
The AAU thing has always been a prerequisite for the BIG10. But at a time when programs are using 7-figure NIL deals to attract players, the one-year sit-out for transfers has been eliminated, and traditional power conferences are being decimated by realignment, I'd be very reluctant to use the phrase "not an option" when pondering anything about the future of college football.
Ilike the idea of the super-conferences if, and it would be an awesome if, the current group of 5 schools were positioned under them in similar groups, and the bottom 3 teams in the Power 2 were relegated to the lower division, and the top 3 teams from the lower division were promoted to the Power 2. Keep things interesting.
Good point. The AAU aspect would be desirable but may no longer be the deciding factor for the B1G, however academic standing will probably still be a deciding factor.
when there is a move , IMHO Clemson would end up in the SEC
I would guess the B1G will get 2 to 4 of Berkeley, Stanford, Oregon and Washington. All qualify as AAU members and the universities can participate in the research funding that the Big Ten Academic Alliance controls (which is also likely to increase with the addition of those schools).
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