Still anti-portal but it kinda makes sense when you see this
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It's always been one sided. It has now tilted in the other direction and coaches don't like it. They have the flexibility to jump ship at any time but want their players 100% committed to their program for four years. Something had to give.
Yeah, I know. Coaches have always been able to leave. It’s not even the most egregious example. But played for the title on Monday and split town on Friday. And now players can put it out there on social media how things really go.
While I still don't like it, it's tough to argue with how the Portal has worked for us this MBB season.I've already polished my Dancin' shoes!
But, wasn't the original deal .... "We'll give you the OPPORTUNITY for a free College Diploma."?
I do realize many do not appreciate that honor. I was third in the family to attend, first to graduate. Other than fidelity to my spouse, service to my country. in combat, and feeding my children, I sincerely get a RUSH when I look at my diploma,
Schools are as culpable as well since they can fire the coach whenever they want.
Still. The players didn’t really know he was leaving even after the team meeting .
Still. The players didn’t really know he was leaving even after the team meeting .
Please, bear with me on this needless diatribe.
The other day I was walking in the Dog park. Didn't see it but, heard a swoosh overhead and saw the snowfall of feathers. Turned around, and two ladies behind me cried A hawk just grabbed a dove. The amount of feather fall was simply amazing, Close to unbelievable.Really, it was like a mini-snow fall.
Lou Reed does a song where a friend brings a Lady Friend to his party, who later dies by an overdose, REED then askes, "Ya know what they call that? ....."BAD LUCK".
Isn't the whole point about getting an education and improving your chances for a better life? That Hawk didn't change a GOD DAMN THANG! AND NEITHER DOES A COACHING CHANGE!!!
The first time you cheated on your wife, did you tell her ahead of time?
That was long ago, and far away.
Like it or not, it's a new world. Since you served in the armed forces (thank you), you should be familiar with
“Improvise, adapt, overcome”.
This is where we are.
Coaches are employees but players are not. That is the difference!
Lincoln Riley tried to do the same thing at Oklahoma. Bob Stoops then shamed Riley to go back and face his players to inform them man-to-men.
IF we are honest, we can't blame the players for taking the next year's better NIL offer. Look at their role models.
And if we are totally honest, we do the same thing. My insurance company sent me a letter last year informing me that if I continued buying my meds from Kroger, I would pay more out-of-pocket. What did I do? Even though Kroger Pharmacy had been, for the most part, good to me, it was "Goodbye Kroger. It was nice knowing you and doing business with you".
We all do the same thing. We look out for "number one". It's the American way. We just don't like it when it bites us on the rear end.
"Look out for number one and try not to step in number two."
--- Rodney Dangerfield ----
IF we are honest, we can't blame the players for taking the next year's better NIL offer. Look at their role models.
And if we are totally honest, we do the same thing. My insurance company sent me a letter last year informing me that if I continued buying my meds from Kroger, I would pay more out-of-pocket. What did I do? Even though Kroger Pharmacy had been, for the most part, good to me, it was "Goodbye Kroger. It was nice knowing you and doing business with you".
We all do the same thing. We look out for "number one". It's the American way. We just don't like it when it bites us on the rear end.
"Look out for number one and try not to step in number two."
--- Rodney Dangerfield ----
100% agree and this is what I have been preaching.
It's not the player's fault. The system is broken and enabling the chaos.
This is why I was initially for the portal and specifically changing the rule that required you to sit out a year when transferring. This type of thing happened to my daughter 10 years ago when she signed a LOI on national signing day and two weeks later the HC she wanted to play for (the same guy who attended her signing at her HS) left to take a different job. I would still be for it if it weren't for paying players soon followed. That changed everything. Now I want sitting out a year back at the very least. I never in a million years thought I would be for that.
You are RIGHT!. I stand corrected. Sometimes, in an attempt to assist, we over react. Learning never ends.
Today, there was a blurb on one of the NEWS stations. A "PLAYER" was granted his 9th year of eligiibility.
WHEN DOES BS NOT STINK???
At least now we don’t have to pretend it’s about the student athlete. It’s all about the athletes.
One guy benefits. Now maybe it's justified IDK the circumstances. But I do know there was more than one athlete that suffered because of the one benefiting... all the guys that could have been recruited had there been an open spot. That's what I hate to see... guys that have no chance to play for a given team because of when they were born
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The portal as it exists now is overkill. And the idea that players should be on equal footing with coaches is absurd. What if it were that way with officers and enlisted personnel in the armed forces? You can't have any properly functioning organization without hierarchy.
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It should be tilted toward the institutions - in the same way that workplaces should be tilted toward company management.
This guy might be a heck of a coach, but in every interview I've seen with him - as well as his introductory news conference at Alabama - I have been astounded at how inarticulate he is. I'm amazed he got through the interview process.
As it should be. The players will be there for a handful of years, the school and the NCAA and coaches will be around long term.
Do away with lower admission standards for athletes and make athletes have to be admitted to the school and enroll in classes BEFORE they can be granted a scholarship.
Coaches should have primacy over players just as teachers should have primacy over students..
Agreed but they shouldn't be able to break a contract every other years at the expense of the university and players. They should honor their contact as do teachers.
And I am sorry but, this Graduate Transfer crap is simply ludicrous.
Yeah playing in five games and still call it a red shirt year is a bit of a stretch imo
Exactly, you and I and everybody that has a job can move to other jobs anytime we choose. It's no different than coaches, why should it be? Coaches have already been to college, worked their way through the system and are "in the workforce". Players have not, they are kids, no college degrees, they don't work for anybody, they just get the privilege of receiving $180K to get their free education, free room and board, monthly stipend, a chance to use their degree to make unlimited money the rest of their lives, and/or a chance to make it to the NFL. None of us ever received this free stuff, we are paying student loans. And without being given this opportunity, many of these players would never get a degree. It's ridiculous to compare coaches with players.
The coaches do have to honor their contract. Buyouts are the disincentive for a coach to leave his current job. If a new employer or the coach wants to pay the buyout and does so he can leave early, the contract is honored. The players do not get a scholarship so they can play for a particular coach. They get a scholarship so they can attend a particular school. The coach leaving does not void their scholarship.
Players acting like they have a right to play for a certain coach is laughable. The angst over a coach leaving and the players being upset about it makes a mockery of the very nature of the scholarship. In theory, the player is playing the sport in order to receive a scholarship in order to obtain a degree from the school. The idea that a player has somehow been wronged by a coach taking another job is ludicrous. The player has lost nothing.
To your second point, i would just say that if the player transfers, they still are able to get a degree. Also, you referenced when the original deal was made.....we all have to see that college athletics today is NOTHING like it was 30 or 40 years ago. The billions being generated by the sport today have made a scenario where the players get no participation in those billions something that is not possible and also just not right.
I don't think your Kroger example is quite the same situation.
Did you sign a contract with Kroger that you would buy all your medication from their pharmacy?
Did you go to pharmacy schools across the country and recruit graduates to come work at that Kroger in order for that graduate to serve you?
Did you promise that you would continue to use that new pharmacists' services as long as she worked at Kroger?
My point is that we all look out for our best financial interests. I suspect you do too. Should not the players look out for theirs too, as you and I do ours? I don't like NIL and the Portal. But until the Athletic Directors of the schools show they have the balls to reform the system to promote fairness and competitiveness , like their predecessors did in 1973 by limiting the number of scholarships a school could give out, then the "have nots" like South Carolina have nobody to blame but themselves.