Decent chance he misses the flight home, IMO.
Stoops won’t be fired tonight. But what about Hamdan?
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Can we fire the entire coaching staff?
Can’t keep making the OC the scapegoat. Also, who would want to be an OC here right now?
Like the defense has played good? They all suck *** tonight, and most nights.
stoops and Hamden should be fired tomorrow. Both of them. Immediately.
stoops and Hamden should be fired tomorrow. Both of them. Immediately.
I thought skang was a bad hire. This bum may actually be worse.
Until Barnhart is fired and replaced with a modern AD and a man who’s willing to do what it takes to win it doesn’t matter who we hire.
The problem is the AD.
The problem is the AD.
I hope we’re able to keep our kicker.
Fans never have him a chance. He actually was very good. He had an awful talent level on the OL and still won several games.
Bush was an awful hire and we paid a premium for him. He should've been fired after last year.
It is, but because of the money. I love basketball but it's getting far too much of the pie. Until we fix the money, football is going to struggle. With a different OC it won't struggle as much, but it will still struggle.
I have a better shot of getting fired than Bush. I didn’t even work today let alone embarrass myself for the 16th game in a row.
True but nobody wants to give money to a turd. And that’s what the football program has become. I would use NIL to strong arm stoops out of here. Which is probably what they’re doing.
Can’t make chicken salad out of turds. We got no talent
Isn't he the 6th or 7th OC Soops has had?
Everyone knows it takes at least 10 OCs to find the right fit.
I am mostly a basketball person but it seems to me that our wide receivers cant get out in the open thus putting all the pressure on the QB to overcome this. Young inexperienced QB's doesn't have the knowledge nor the experience to overcome this. Our weak pass protection from our offensive line doesn't help either. Our 2 best receivers left here and this is what we have now.
Mitch isnt going anywhere bc the rest of the schools sports are good and thats his job. I think mitch is a stick in the mud but he's an athletic director not a football director.
Plus- alabama, Oregon, florida, auburn, etc...all their ADs...worked here under mitch.
I disagree. We have talent, we just don't know how to use it. We have a good OL but still can't pass protect. It's been that way the entire time under Stoops minus maybe one season. We have a bunch of former 4 star recruits at WR, some that played at big time programs, but our pass concepts suck.
Our defense has just been underachieving for a couple of seasons now. I think some of that is they get demoralized with how bad our offense is and they know we have to pitch shutouts to have any chance of winning. I will say Daveren Rayner has no business being a starting LB in the SEC but the rest of the starting defense is average/pretty good.
The money got rerouted when football was doing fine. Pope got hired and Mitch rerouted money. We're going to have the least revenue share of any football team in the sec. That speaks volumes.
The previous one is now an nfl head coach. So lets not act like this bad hire is a pattern.
Stoops made this bed though when he canned scang and rehired coen when he knew coen would only be here a year. After about 3 games, coen started looking for jobs.
We need stability there its true, but it cant be bush.
I'll do it for a million bucks and no expectations
This is true but its another reason we shouldn't be throwing the ball except as a counter to our strong run game. 15-20 passes a game should be it.
Good ocs run concepts that get people open. Talent makes a difference, but our routes do not help us at all. Bush shows some decent stuff vs zones but his man stuff is basically just hoping someone gets open. We rarely run mesh concepts at all, which blows my mind.
this is true to a point, but van has showed the receivers open many times and no recognition by the QBs. one time last night, on a 3rd down blitz, the WR made the correct adjustment, and CB ate it, resulting in a sack. if he instead made a simple 7 yard toss, the WR gets a first and more.
granted, its easier to say that then do it with 250-300 pounders trying to crush you.
last I checked Mitch is the lowest or near the lowest paid AD in the conference. There’s a reason for that.
He’s also never, ever been offered another big time AD job. Kansas inquired, and declined.
There’s a reason for all of that. Mitch is and always was in over his head. He has 2 jobs that matter. I like Kentucky winning across the board, but at the end of the day, most AD’s in this conference do well across the board. It’s the SEC, he has more money at his disposal than all of our other AD’s combined.
Mitch has one championship in the sports that matter here. One. And considering one of those sports he inherited the greatest program of all time? That’s a really bad record. I won’t even get into the insane contracts and turning our program into a goldmine for averages coaches grandchildren. I also won’t get into the fact that he never wanted to hire Calipari in the first place.
Kentucky and maybe (maybe not) Vandy are the only programs who wouldn’t have fired him by now. Looking around at the rest of the conferences in the modern era, I don’t see how that’s debatable.
Mitch should be at Murray, or Western, or a place like Bellarmine. He is not SEC material and never was.
Until an AD is brought in here that’s committed to winning no matter what it takes this isn’t going to change.
Go rifle.
We have a lot of 4 star re treads that are here mainly because no one else will take them in the SEC.
we don’t have a quarterback that would start anywhere else in the SEC. We have average SEC talent in places, but no one that would start at Alabama, Georgia or LSU.
It would be easier to fire a head coach than a coordinator. The OC has a system that has been installed and practiced over time. It took new players the spring, summer and fall to learn all the plays, the terms, the concepts etc. To dump it in mid season would only greatly exacerbate the situation.
Like it or not (and I don't) we are stuck with what we have until changes are made.
Like it or not (and I don't) we are stuck with what we have until changes are made.
In his next to last season as oc, gran installed two additional offenses in season. It can be done, just not by anyone we have in an on field position.
I don’t know want kind of OC would be interested in coming into a situation in which the HC is on the hot seat.
This season was always pretty much a scrap and reboot with Boley. Let him get the reps. Build roster and tweak offense around him.
This is what happens when you don’t change.
CMS is a horse shoeing blacksmith bah humbugging at all the Model T/combustible engines.
Gon keep hammering away as cars and time fly by.
This season was always pretty much a scrap and reboot with Boley. Let him get the reps. Build roster and tweak offense around him.
This is what happens when you don’t change.
CMS is a horse shoeing blacksmith bah humbugging at all the Model T/combustible engines.
Gon keep hammering away as cars and time fly by.
I don’t disagree that a lot of our players wouldn’t play at Alabama, Georgia or LSU. But besides Sellers, Harbor and Stewart, did you see a big talent gap last night? I didn’t. But coaching was the biggest mismatch last night. Their DC made adjustments after our initial opening drive and blitzed us to death. We caved under that pressure and never readjusted. On defense, we kept letting Sellers get out of the pocket and run which is his strength. We never put much pressure on him and we never really do to anyone.
And I mentioned our pass concepts suck. We run nothing to get them open. Everything is a jet sweep or a long bomb, which is baffling considering our receivers can’t get open at least in this offense.
I wish your opinion and my opinion counted, as we are wishful for the same. However, as in the rest of my life, it doesn’t. lol
Sorry man but there’s not an AD on the planet that will make Kentucky consistently competitive at a high level in football. Those two 10 win seasons stoops got us is our ceiling. He achieved the impossible here at Kentucky but the ride is likely over for him. Now that the playoffs have expanded it’s maybe possible to sneak in once in a blue moon but if you’re expecting it then you’re gonna be miserable.
Mitch’s biggest blunder will always be the stupid contracts he gave to stoops and cal. Besides that, he’s highly respected in his field. Whether the hometown crowd agrees or not. I suspect he will replace stoops, stick around for another year or two and then retire
The highest revenue sports is football, if it isn't healthy , he isn't doing his job.Nobody gives a rats rectum what the women's volleyball team or men's soccer team is doing. The sports doing well don't generate a dime for the school. Even basketball has not fully recovered from the hole his ridiculous contract put us in, although things improved last year. He is outdated and overmatched and needs to GO!!!!
How is rayner playing bad? He generally is where he is supposed to be, he’s only missed three tackles the whole year that I can think of which is Lower than pretty much lower than everybody else on the defense and has only let up one pass in the pass game.
If he hasn’t fired our horrible safeties coach he isn’t going to fire anyone. Bafoon should be nowhere near a D1 football field as a coach. The safeties are always out of position. Mike Stoops should not be coaching the ILBs. He hasn’t developed anyone. We had to take what should have been our head hunting free safety and make undersized ILBs out of them.
Yeah right, I fully expect Stoops to keep everyone and let them sink with him while he gets even richer.
Name one team that cutter bolley or zac Calzado would start for in the SEC?
How are we supposed to win with the worst quarterback in the SEC??
Not to mention, average wide receivers, and lineman that cannot jump on a football
How are we supposed to win with the worst quarterback in the SEC??
Not to mention, average wide receivers, and lineman that cannot jump on a football
Well under his watch the football program has brought in more money than ever before. By a longshot. It still is . So if you’re basing Mitch’s job performance on money the athletic department has brought into the university….he’s been a home run hire . That’s why the president of the university loves him.
I don’t know why people won’t see the trees and not the forest.
Stoops gets OC’s in here and tells them to tailor their offensive philosophies to fit into his ball control, low scoring, be in the game in the fourth quarter world view.
My God people, how many OC’s have to go through the turn gate before you set it?
Stoops gets OC’s in here and tells them to tailor their offensive philosophies to fit into his ball control, low scoring, be in the game in the fourth quarter world view.
My God people, how many OC’s have to go through the turn gate before you set it?
You think it is all Stoops but we did quite well under Gran and Cohen (54-35) . A huge gap in success between those two and the rest (25-40). Did Stoops just not feel like sabotaging those two?
Stoops has an amazing track record with oc hires.
Neal Brown - long time hc
Shannon Dawson - one of the hottest ocs in the nation at Miami
Eddie Gran - took this program from on the cusp to bowl games and heights way beyond what we thought capable.
Liam Coen - now an nfl head coach just two years after his last stint.
Scangarello - won 7 games with virtually zero OL talent, a head case qb, two true freshman wrs.
Bush was the first one I thought was bad and posted as much soon as he was hired.