Stricklin stats
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So loaferz needs a realtor in Gainesville and potentially needs to be lining up a mover soon too.
Yikes… if that’s correct that seems almost hard to pull off
There is no way either one of those records is anywhere close to true.
Yiiiiiiiiiiikes. He def gone too. Stricklin must have had the same resume writer on the same platinum infused paper as Moorhead did.
He would be a preferable option to the current AD except you know for him being a 17ing traitor
So I just checked. His two women’s hoops hires won 92 games just themselves. Todd Golden is 40-29 over the men’s program. Stricklin didn’t hire the VB coach, the baseball coach or the SB coach so I’m curious where these numbers come from. Are they sec only numbers? That doesn’t seem right either.
Sure it’s true….
Mullen, Napier, Todd Golden, and Kellie Ray Finley are a combined 142-102.
So, it simply means the remaining hires in lesser known sports have a combined record of -53 wins and 296 losses. Simple math***
The other part that’s bogus is that people think Stricklin hired anybody. Maybe they let him pick the WBB hires (he’s the one who hired Vic at MSU)….but everyone else was hired by Foley and the boosters. Regardless of what it says on paper.
In six years here he somehow never had to make a football or baseball hire. Mullen and Cohen were Byrne hires, and still there when Stricklin left.
I’ll give him credit for hiring Schaefer and Howland was an imperfect step in the right direction. But the Rick Ray hire and that whole process was a major major red flag for me with Stricklin.
I’ll give him credit for hiring Schaefer and Howland was an imperfect step in the right direction. But the Rick Ray hire and that whole process was a major major red flag for me with Stricklin.
Very overrated AD.
Major hires (including women's basketball to be generous to Scott):
Major hires (including women's basketball to be generous to Scott):
- Football:
- Mississippi State: none
- Florida:
- Dan Mullen (obvious hire, three good years, fired after one bad year)
- Billy Napier (hot seat in year three)
- Basketball:
- Mississippi State:
- Rick Ray (fired Stansbury to hire Ray; utter disaster)
- Ben Howland (elevated us to mediocre)
- Florida:
- Todd Golden (jury still out, decent so far)
- Mississippi State:
- Baseball:
- Mississippi State: none
- Florida: none
- Women's basketball:
- Mississippi State:
- Vic Shaefer (most successful hire, not a high-pressure hire)
- Florida:
- Cameron Newbauer (fired mediocre coach to hire utter disaster)
- Kelly Rae Finley (better than Newbauer but losing SEC record after three years)
- Mississippi State:
I dunno... Foley was there from 1992-2016. Here's what Wikipedia says about all of Flahrda's national championships:
Men's national championships (26)
Baseball (1): 2017
Basketball (2): 2006 • 2007
Football (3): 1996 • 2006 • 2008
Golf (5): 1968 • 1973 • 1993 • 2001 • 2023
Indoor track and field (5): 2010 • 2011 • 2012 • 2018 • 2019
Outdoor track and field (7): 2012 • 2013 • 2016 • 2017 • 2022 • 2023 • 2024
Swimming and diving (2): 1983 • 1984
Tennis (1): 2021
Women's national championships (22)
Golf (2): 1985 • 1986
Gymnastics (4): 1982 • 2013 • 2014 • 2015
Indoor track and field (2): 1992 • 2022
Outdoor track and field (1): 2022
Soccer (1): 1998
Softball (2): 2014 • 2015
Swimming and diving (3): 1979 • 1982 • 2010
Tennis (7): 1992 • 1996 • 1998 • 2003 • 2011 • 2012 • 2017
I'm not going to go through the win/loss records of every coach, but the only national championships for Florida since Stricklin was hired were in:
Track and Field - Mike Holloway was hired in 2002
Men's golf - J. C. Deacon was hired in 2015
Men's tennis - Bryan Shelton was hired in 2012
I'm willing to give Stricklin a little slack on hiring Ben Howland. On paper, that was a slam dunk hire. I think we just didn't have a concept of how much the game had passed him by.
No one is questioning the titles. We are questioning the records. Like how could Foley and Stricklin have anywhere near the same number of games those records show much less the actual record shown for Stricklin
Howland was a great hire. Brought in talent and re ignited the basketball mafia. Set the stage for Jan’s. Some people don’t realize how bad our hoops program is in the grand scheme of things.
Yeah I was a vocal Howland critic and I even I think the guy deserved credit for improving us as much as he did. My complaints were more about him not getting us to our ceiling. But he definitely raised our floor.
His record was .468 in conference. In conference he finished 11th, 12th, 7th, 6th, 4th. 9th, and 10th. 3 trips to the NIT and one to the round of 64. "Great" is a big stretch on words
I know. Thats why I highlighted he brought in the talent he brought in that Jans got us going with. It’s a really really difficult job. Not to mention he had at least a chance to go to back to back ncaa tourneys if not for Covid. Not a lot of people are going to succeed here. 2002-2005 is an exception not a rule.
But I also judge hires to some extent from the jump. It’s easy to judge a hire in hindsight. We all excel in that. Just like I don’t blame Strick for hiring a FB coach we begged to come here in 2019.
If Stricklands and Merlinz could go back then and know what they know now......do we make the playoff in 2018?
Either way, I get that most normal-brained folks see Florida as a step up from MSU. But not all these schools are similar - there are big differences in culture, mission, etc. Neither Loaferz or Danny were fits at Florida, and it's a shame that couldn't see it.
Either way, I get that most normal-brained folks see Florida as a step up from MSU. But not all these schools are similar - there are big differences in culture, mission, etc. Neither Loaferz or Danny were fits at Florida, and it's a shame that couldn't see it.
If I recall correctly, I had exactly one concern with Ben Howland and that was that he was a few years older than Bob Boyd was when he became State’s head coach so I wondered if Howland’s tenure would be like Boyd’s.
It wasn't even that bad, honestly. It stabilized the program, albeit didn't give us any excitement. Paved to way for us to get Jans.
It wasn’t bad at all. It took him 2 years but after 2017 we had 5 years of solid to very good basketball (the 2019 team was one of our best ever) and besides the Nick Weatherspoon tutor gate a program that wasn’t in any trouble
I give Stricklin a pass on firing Stansbury. Unfortunately, it had to be done. Stans had a variety of issues, but he staked his career on Renardo Sidney and it didn't pay off. It took a lot of effort to get Sidney eligible, and someone should have kept him away from the buffet table during that 1.33 seasons he couldn't play.
Then Stricklin had to hire Stan's replacement, and MSU was looking to hire someone from outside the program for the first time in 30 years. That is staggering to think about. Turns out, coaches without ties to MSU weren't too eager to come here.
Plus, Stricklin wanted to cut ties with the AAU recruiting game. That's admirable, but it eliminated most of the potential coaching contenders.
I think if I were in Stricklin's loafers, I would have relented and allowed AAU recruiting before settling on Rick Ray. But I guess he had his reasons.
Then Stricklin had to hire Stan's replacement, and MSU was looking to hire someone from outside the program for the first time in 30 years. That is staggering to think about. Turns out, coaches without ties to MSU weren't too eager to come here.
Plus, Stricklin wanted to cut ties with the AAU recruiting game. That's admirable, but it eliminated most of the potential coaching contenders.
I think if I were in Stricklin's loafers, I would have relented and allowed AAU recruiting before settling on Rick Ray. But I guess he had his reasons.
They think because he brought MSU sports up (which he didn't) he could do it for them. He gets Schaefer. But Mullen was Byrnes idea.
Stricklin didn't want to go to Florida. He turned them down twice, then they offered to triple his MSU salary and he decided to give it a try.
An AD does a lot more than hire and fire coaches. His fund raising efforts at State were unprecedented. He has raised a **** ton of money at UF, too, but they had a major fundraising campaign in the works before he got there, so it's hard to figure out how much credit he gets. And he does a great job of improving things for the athletes, too.
I mean, he was named AD of the year at State in 2016, and again at UF in 2020. He must be doing something right.
That said, I don't see how he could survive the Napier hire (even though Perd says it wasn't really Stricklin's call).
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