Suprise!! Suprise!! Bama dominates pre-season........
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to be good so badly.
To hear that Notre Dame is actually being put in some top 25s is a complete joke. They may be 100 times better, but there's no way you can look at what they did last year and suggest they're right now a top 25 team. It's the Beano Cook syndrome.
To hear that Notre Dame is actually being put in some top 25s is a complete joke. They may be 100 times better, but there's no way you can look at what they did last year and suggest they're right now a top 25 team. It's the Beano Cook syndrome.
of the religious tradition in the families of the sportswriters and you might have your answer as to why this always occurs.
I am not sure I have an answer for you. However, I have noted that no other University seems to produce the same warm fuzzy feeling for Catholics as does Notre Dame. Maybe Peter went to school there?
it is predominantly R. Catholic. Most of the Jesuits don't have football programs anymore (like Georgetown). Notre Dame was founded by Brothers of the Holy Cross and has the tradition going back to the 1920s. It is the R. Catholic football team. I have a good friend (who grew up in San Fran), but is a huge ND fan. Why? He's Catholic. I asked him...why not be a Boston College fan? He laughed.
though it has nothing to do with religion. Maybe you're right, I just can't imagine pulling for one school because of religion.
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">And I can't stand Notre Dame either. !!!# 'em.
I suppose I can understand why Catholics are die-hard ND fans. But, I can only understand in three instances: 1) They went to ND, 2) they didn't go to college, 3) football wasn't important where they went to school. If the Catholic thing causes you to have some sort of connection to the football team - fine.
But as far as I'm concerned, ND is just the Alabama of the north. Nice history, but delusional present day self image. They've lost there last 9 bowl games by an average of 17 points/game. If that doesn't say OVERRATED then I don't know what does. I only know a handful of ND fans, but there are all every bit as hard headed an delusional as Alabama fans. Since stereotyping college football fans is okay in my book, then I'm going to go ahead assume that 95% of ND fans are that way as well.
I suppose I just can't stand teams who have arrogant fans where the only reason to support that arrogance is ancient history. I can put up with the LSU's of the world just fine, at least they can back up their attitudes. But ND and Alabama fans piss me off to no end. Arguing with them is like watching a couple of retards trying to hump a doorknob.</p>
I suppose I can understand why Catholics are die-hard ND fans. But, I can only understand in three instances: 1) They went to ND, 2) they didn't go to college, 3) football wasn't important where they went to school. If the Catholic thing causes you to have some sort of connection to the football team - fine.
But as far as I'm concerned, ND is just the Alabama of the north. Nice history, but delusional present day self image. They've lost there last 9 bowl games by an average of 17 points/game. If that doesn't say OVERRATED then I don't know what does. I only know a handful of ND fans, but there are all every bit as hard headed an delusional as Alabama fans. Since stereotyping college football fans is okay in my book, then I'm going to go ahead assume that 95% of ND fans are that way as well.
I suppose I just can't stand teams who have arrogant fans where the only reason to support that arrogance is ancient history. I can put up with the LSU's of the world just fine, at least they can back up their attitudes. But ND and Alabama fans piss me off to no end. Arguing with them is like watching a couple of retards trying to hump a doorknob.</p>
This is true in every part of the nation except the Deep South, where Catholics tend to support one of the larger state universities where they live (or came from). Why else do you think Notre Dame is the only school that has its own national TV contract that covers every home game?
was21 said:
but they don't have the tradition that ND has. Everyone wants to be associated with a winner- even if it's a winner 20 years ago.</p>
patdog said:
</p>two of their largest groups of fans are in New York City and Chicago. That's two of the three largest markets in the US.
I think I am correct. Did it ever occur to you that Roman Catholics might behave in a way that is different from southern baptists with regard to the institution of a demonination. I will grant you that both are rather dogmatic. I really am not trying to get into a discussion of religion here. But, I find it a little difficult to assert my point without discussing religion.
There are a lot of Catholics that view ND as the official University in America of Catholicism. For many of them it is both the pinnacle of academia and athletic endevor (see Rudy's Dad in Rudy.) Some of that has to do with reverence for the very institution of the Catholic church, which did establish Notre Dame.
I understand not all Catholics feel that way. But, that feeling is not uncommon, particularly among Northern and Eastern American Catholics. And among Irish Catholics, you can entisify that notion by about 10x.
I can't believe this is a new notion for anyone.
There are a lot of Catholics that view ND as the official University in America of Catholicism. For many of them it is both the pinnacle of academia and athletic endevor (see Rudy's Dad in Rudy.) Some of that has to do with reverence for the very institution of the Catholic church, which did establish Notre Dame.
I understand not all Catholics feel that way. But, that feeling is not uncommon, particularly among Northern and Eastern American Catholics. And among Irish Catholics, you can entisify that notion by about 10x.
I can't believe this is a new notion for anyone.
and let's say that Notre Dame is the favorite team of many Catholics, maybe it's because the Catholic religion's members are united as in "universal" which the word "catholic" means., and pull for one team as a united fanbase. On the other hand, baptists have so many different ideas about religion that they could never agree on anything, certainly not one football team.</p>
"the families of sportswriters were allegedly Catholic" still makes no sense to me. Having said that, I am Catholic and proud of it. I also pull for Notre Dame as well as Mississippi State, and to my knowledge don't have a relative who is a sportswriter. If I had an option of attending Notre Dame over State, you can believe that I would have done that as well, but I didn't. I pull for Mississippi State simply because I graduated from there, and can't really think of another reason.
100% or anything. But, if sportswriters are distributed in a similar manner as the rest of the population, and those particular sportswriters had a strong propensity for irratinal exuberance for the atheletic prowess of Notre Dame athletes, then that might explain an over-ranking in a sportswriter's poll.
That's all. I didn't say all sportswriters are catholic, or that most of them are. In fact, my thought was that it might be a religious tradition within their family more so than them going to confession all the damned time.
I digress. I just think those particular sportswriters might have enough irrational exuberance for Notre Dame so as to skew the poll. That's all. This isn't some earthshattering new theory. Obviously everyone knows you are Catholic and has opted not to share it with you.
That's all. I didn't say all sportswriters are catholic, or that most of them are. In fact, my thought was that it might be a religious tradition within their family more so than them going to confession all the damned time.
I digress. I just think those particular sportswriters might have enough irrational exuberance for Notre Dame so as to skew the poll. That's all. This isn't some earthshattering new theory. Obviously everyone knows you are Catholic and has opted not to share it with you.
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