The biggest issue last night was the O-line.

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They started playing great in the first quarter giving Rogers a lot of time to throw but things went south toward halftime when Auburn really brought the heat and you could tell there was some frustration amongst the unit as the game went one. Sharp and Smith whiffed on some assignments several times in the third quarter which led to the sacks and turnovers. The interior is where Auburn brought the pressure for the most part.
 

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Acquirable, attainable, getable... Those are all antonyms to the word "elusive". That's how I would describe Will in the pocket. Acquirable, attainable and getable.

He certainly isn't very elusive.
 
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They started playing great in the first quarter giving Rogers a lot of time to throw but things went south toward halftime when Auburn really brought the heat and you could tell there was some frustration amongst the unit as the game went one. Sharp and Smith whiffed on some assignments several times in the third quarter which led to the sacks and turnovers. The interior is where Auburn brought the pressure for the most part.
We have the second best OL statistically speaking in the SEC. The only other QB in the SEC who is pressured less than Will? Stetson Bennett. Who’s the worst QB in the SEC under pressure? Will Rogers

Stop blaming the OL for Will Rogers’ issues
 

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They started playing great in the first quarter giving Rogers a lot of time to throw but things went south toward halftime when Auburn really brought the heat and you could tell there was some frustration amongst the unit as the game went one. Sharp and Smith whiffed on some assignments several times in the third quarter which led to the sacks and turnovers. The interior is where Auburn brought the pressure for the most part.
Oh absolutely. It was the real, real problem last night.
 

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They started playing great in the first quarter giving Rogers a lot of time to throw but things went south toward halftime when Auburn really brought the heat and you could tell there was some frustration amongst the unit as the game went one. Sharp and Smith whiffed on some assignments several times in the third quarter which led to the sacks and turnovers. The interior is where Auburn brought the pressure for the most part.
I saw 29 sexually abuse 66 like 8 times last night. The Oktoc DA has opened an investigation.
 
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They started playing great in the first quarter giving Rogers a lot of time to throw but things went south toward halftime when Auburn really brought the heat and you could tell there was some frustration amongst the unit as the game went one. Sharp and Smith whiffed on some assignments several times in the third quarter which led to the sacks and turnovers. The interior is where Auburn brought the pressure for the most part.

It helps that DL when there is no penalty for pinning your ears back and missing. A slightly mobile QB fixes a lot of this problem.
 

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Agree, but Rogers also holds the ball way too long. He doesn't seem to have much pocket presence and certainly can't run. Soon as he's touched he goes down.

All that to say - not blaming Rogers either, but as a whole we aren't particularly talented offensively.
Rogers has ZERO pocket presence. If he was just elusive enough to escape the pocket and turn plays where he’s sacked into five yard gains on a scramble it would make such a huge difference. Two strip sack fumbles are inexcusable as well.
 

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Rogers has ZERO pocket presence. If he was just elusive enough to escape the pocket and turn plays where he’s sacked into five yard gains on a scramble it would make such a huge difference. Two strip sack fumbles are inexcusable as well.
Yeah, I call it 'Joe Burrow speed'. You don't have to be a burner. If you are an accurate passer (as Will is), all you need is to be baseline competent in the run game, as you say. Or just have the presence - Eli Manning was great at this - evading the rush. Rogers looks like a dead body as soon as he gets brushed by a defender.
 
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Agree, but Rogers also holds the ball way too long. He doesn't seem to have much pocket presence and certainly can't run. Soon as he's touched he goes down.

All that to say - not blaming Rogers either, but as a whole we aren't particularly talented offensively.
I will agree with that as well. He does have issues with pocket awareness.
 
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We have the second best OL statistically speaking in the SEC. The only other QB in the SEC who is pressured less than Will? Stetson Bennett. Who’s the worst QB in the SEC under pressure? Will Rogers

Stop blaming the OL for Will Rogers’ issues
It was an issue last night and for most of the season they have done a good job of protection, they just simply had a bad two quarters last night. And Rogers at times does have issues with holding onto the ball too long. I won’t disagree with that either.
 
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Why Mississippi State doesn't recruit, or search the portals, for offensive linemen, is beyond me.
I can answer this one............it's because we are too goddamn busy searching for punters and kickers who didn't amount to jack **** at their current school and have been beaten out for the job, and we think that they are going to come here and be all Americans. Recruit punters and kickers and holders and specialists from high schools. Save the transfer portal for the athletes that are transferring because their current coaching staff has been fired or has taken a job elsewhere.
 

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Yes, he had a terrible stretch there in the third quarter where he looked like a swinging gate at LT.
More concerning to me is we didn't adjust to that though. It did not appear to me that we that we did enough sets or scheme to help guys struggling on the line. Keep an extra back in the game to block. Pull the guard out to block. Something roll to the opposite side and throw. Hot route to that side. Geeze do something rather than letting the man keep getting whipped
 

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A JC DLine can get pressure on a SEC offensive line when there is no threat of the run and they can pass rush every down… it’s been the same thing the last 3 games. We haven’t tried to establish the run early. We did run tempo last night until we got up 17-0 then quit running tempo.
 

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A JC DLine can get pressure on a SEC offensive line when there is no threat of the run and they can pass rush every down… it’s been the same thing the last 3 games. We haven’t tried to establish the run early. We did run tempo last night until we got up 17-0 then quit running tempo.
Completely abandoning the run has been a huge issue for sure.
 

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Completely abandoning the run has been a huge issue for sure.
Is it will just going with what's in the box and if a run gets stopped he panics and doesn't go back to it or is leach just calling it that way over snd over again? Sometimes runs will get stuffed doesn't mean abandon it. We sure don't abandon the pass when will goes 3-0 on the pass
 

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They started playing great in the first quarter giving Rogers a lot of time to throw but things went south toward halftime when Auburn really brought the heat and you could tell there was some frustration amongst the unit as the game went one. Sharp and Smith whiffed on some assignments several times in the third quarter which led to the sacks and turnovers. The interior is where Auburn brought the pressure for the most part.
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Is it will just going with what's in the box and if a run gets stopped he panics and doesn't go back to it or is leach just calling it that way over snd over again? Sometimes runs will get stuffed doesn't mean abandon it. We sure don't abandon the pass when will goes 3-0 on the pass
I’m not sure but either way it’s a mistake.
 

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Is it will just going with what's in the box and if a run gets stopped he panics and doesn't go back to it or is leach just calling it that way over snd over again? Sometimes runs will get stuffed doesn't mean abandon it. We sure don't abandon the pass when will goes 3-0 on the pass
It’s Mike calling the play and Will deciding to audible based on the defensive alignment. If it’s 5 or less in the box we’re running. What was different about Auburn is they played a base defense, and did a great job of disguising pressure. Even Jordan Rogers was talking about how wrong he was on the defensive alignments.
 

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I think our ou OL strength and conditioning needs to be addressed because sometimes they letting themselves just get whipped. Somebody needs to be working on getting those feet quicker.
 

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A JC DLine can get pressure on a SEC offensive line when there is no threat of the run and they can pass rush every down… it’s been the same thing the last 3 games. We haven’t tried to establish the run early. We did run tempo last night until we got up 17-0 then quit running tempo.
I checked somewhere in the middle of our offensive drought and we had run the ball a total of 5 times (excluding the sacks and punt play). I was thinking, no wonder they are coming off the snap with one thing in mind - get to Rogers.
 

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I checked somewhere in the middle of our offensive drought and we had run the ball a total of 5 times (excluding the sacks and punt play). I was thinking, no wonder they are coming off the snap with one thing in mind - get to Rogers.
We were also something like -21 rushing yards during that stretch. It wasn’t lack of running game. It was lack of blocking in both the running and passing game.
I put as much blame on the coaches for not adjusting blocking schemes as I do the lack of execution.
 

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They started playing great in the first quarter giving Rogers a lot of time to throw but things went south toward halftime when Auburn really brought the heat and you could tell there was some frustration amongst the unit as the game went one. Sharp and Smith whiffed on some assignments several times in the third quarter which led to the sacks and turnovers. The interior is where Auburn brought the pressure for the most part.
Terrible take, Will held the ball way too long several times, got to chunk it out of bounds. Can't keep making reads, especially when the D has little fear of the running game or the QB scrambling.
 

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not just pocket presence but guts under fire, any pressure and will craps his pants. I’ve never seen a third year q b act like that. Combine that with cement shoes and you have a real bad combination.

im hoping leach lets Sawyer play three quarters against E t s u

next year we need to go with a new q b
 

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They started playing great in the first quarter giving Rogers a lot of time to throw but things went south toward halftime when Auburn really brought the heat and you could tell there was some frustration amongst the unit as the game went one. Sharp and Smith whiffed on some assignments several times in the third quarter which led to the sacks and turnovers. The interior is where Auburn brought the pressure for the most part.
Playing against four future NFLers will do that.
 

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The strongest part of Auburn, it was going into the season and has been all season is the D Line. I give Auburn coaches credit for realizing that fact and not doing the rush three drop eight. They used their talent to pressure Rogers.
 

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The end Nick Jones faced was really good.

Will panics with any pressure. You can get by with slow feet if you are gutsy in the pocket.
 

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Why Mississippi State doesn't recruit, or search the portals, for offensive linemen, is beyond m

I can answer this one............it's because we are too goddamn busy searching for punters and kickers who didn't amount to jack **** at their current school and have been beaten out for the job, and we think that they are going to come here and be all Americans. Recruit punters and kickers and holders and specialists from high schools. Save the transfer portal for the athletes that are transferring because their current coaching staff has been fired or has taken a job elsewhere.
You honestly think we spend a lot of time looking for kickers? So much so that we can't pursue other positions? I'm doubtful.
 

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I think our ou OL strength and conditioning needs to be addressed because sometimes they letting themselves just get whipped. Somebody needs to be working on getting those feet quicker.
Dolla Bill is an overrated 4 star.
N. Jones is a JUCO 3-star with no other P5 offers.
Sharp is a JUCO 3-star and had some SEC offers.
Smith is a 3-star and while he had the LSU offer, kind of obvious to see the real play there.
K. Jones is a 3-star with no P5 offers.
Lasoya is a 2-star from the G5.

That's our issue. For the most part, we have a very old, G5 OL. The reason we are serviceable is because they are old. And out of that group, we haven't had anyone really rise up and develop themselves into an NFL-caliber lineman like say, Elgton Jenkins. So without that, we need a bonafide too, and that guy left early and is now with the Seahawks. We are missing him BADLY.

I compare Cross' impact on this team, to Renfroe's impact on the 2014 baseball team. Just immeasurable.
 

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Dolla Bill is an overrated 4 star.
N. Jones is a JUCO 3-star with no other P5 offers.
Sharp is a JUCO 3-star and had some SEC offers.
Smith is a 3-star and while he had the LSU offer, kind of obvious to see the real play there.
K. Jones is a 3-star with no P5 offers.
Lasoya is a 2-star from the G5.

That's our issue. For the most part, we have a very old, G5 OL. The reason we are serviceable is because they are old. And out of that group, we haven't had anyone really rise up and develop themselves into an NFL-caliber lineman like say, Elgton Jenkins. So without that, we need a bonafide too, and that guy left early and is now with the Seahawks. We are missing him BADLY.

I compare Cross' impact on this team, to Renfroe's impact on the 2014 baseball team. Just immeasurable.
That's kind of always been our problem. We've had to develop a bunch 2-3 stars in to nfl level guys. Hevesy was an *** but he was good at that. By the time a guy graduated we had some studs. Cross was one of best recruits in a long time at OL. Only good think Moorhead did was recruit some guys we had never gotten before. Leach not known for high recruiting but developing. Got to developing these guys better. That's what is a problem also. These guys are old and we will have to replace some and start over unless we hit the portal. Leach doesn't seem to be a fan. We will see but when we have to replace the line the production will go down even with a veteran backfield. Just like with Dak in 15. Young oline hurt him from being what could have been that year. Even though our schedule will be easier next year if we have a young oline that will hurt
 
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