The College Football Solution

Bulldog from Birth

Well-known member
Jan 23, 2007
2,318
549
113
College football is broken. Everyone knows it. But there is a solution. And this is it.

The courts have ruled that the NIL system MUST be allowed because there is no collective bargaining or college football union. To save it, the players must form a union and collectively bargain. But how do you make them change a system that's gone way too far in their direction? Here's exactly how you do it. The college football power brokers first must give up significant money from the revenue pool. We aren't going to pay players from fans and big boosters pooling money into NIL pay-for-play collectives. It's coming from the same place all other players in other leagues get paid.....ticket sales, merchandise sales, TV revenue, etc. But here is the KEY to making this work, and what will be so hard for the power brokers to do. You have to be willing to tick off the 5-star superstar players who are the primary beneficiaries of the current system. And you need to sell the unionized structure to the average run-of-the-mill mid-point player. Let's say the "average" player at an average major conference school is theoretically getting a $75k per year NIL deal currently. That may not be the right number, and these numbers can be changed to make this work, but just assume that's accurate for now. Well that player is in a lot of luck, Because in my new system, he is about to be making $150,000 per year on top of his scholarship. But here is the catch, EVERYONE is making $150,000 per year. No exceptions. The Heisman trophy contending starting QB is making $150,000 per year. And your top 15 walk-ons are making $150,000 per year. And if you sign the collective bargaining agreement you are ceding all your NIL and other money making rights away. Anyone caught taking NIL or other monies is immediately banned from college football, similar to recruiting violations of the past. And the new system will also revert back to the prior transfer rules, where it was possible, but a little painful. You have 5 years to play 5. Red-shirting is over. But THAT is how you solve it. Attack the mid-point such that the new scheme will be so beneficial and so much more financially profitable to the average guy, that they'd be foolish not to sign the agreement. All you need is a simple majority to unionize, so attack the mid-point to get it instituted. So then, what becomes of the superstars that are going to lose millions in this deal? That's easy. They can accept it. Or they can take a hike. I don't care. And you don't care. The powers that be think we care. Somehow they've convinced themselves that college football interest is driven by top tier players, top recruits, and the "stars." But this is a lie. We don't watch college sports because these are the best players in the world. That's the NFL's business model. If you took all these exact same players, and put them in minor league pro teams, nobody cares about this. 100,000 will flock into Neyland Stadium to watch the Tennessee Volunteers. You'd be lucky to get 5,000 to show up to watch the exact same roster, the Knoxville Bandits play the Tuscaloosa Tornados. Why? Because the players and their talents do not drive the value of this equation. The value of college football is almost 100% built on the name of the university, the decades of team tradition, your own family tradition of your team, the spirit and connection one has to their college and their alma mater. People need to realize this, and when the 5-stars complain about the millions of dollars they are losing out on, the system needs to have the guts to tell them, "Sorry, we don't care. If you can find somewhere else to find a better deal than what we are offering (which they absolutely cannot by the way), then we'll be thrilled for you. But this is what we offer. Take it or leave it." This is how to save this sport that we love before it is destroyed forever. There are definitely some things that have to still be worked out, given the disparity in revenue between conferences. But this is absolutely the general structure that must come about. This is the way forward.
 

RopeDawg

Member
Feb 24, 2023
297
234
43
College football is broken. Everyone knows it. But there is a solution. And this is it.

The courts have ruled that the NIL system MUST be allowed because there is no collective bargaining or college football union. To save it, the players must form a union and collectively bargain. But how do you make them change a system that's gone way too far in their direction? Here's exactly how you do it. The college football power brokers first must give up significant money from the revenue pool. We aren't going to pay players from fans and big boosters pooling money into NIL pay-for-play collectives. It's coming from the same place all other players in other leagues get paid.....ticket sales, merchandise sales, TV revenue, etc. But here is the KEY to making this work, and what will be so hard for the power brokers to do. You have to be willing to tick off the 5-star superstar players who are the primary beneficiaries of the current system. And you need to sell the unionized structure to the average run-of-the-mill mid-point player. Let's say the "average" player at an average major conference school is theoretically getting a $75k per year NIL deal currently. That may not be the right number, and these numbers can be changed to make this work, but just assume that's accurate for now. Well that player is in a lot of luck, Because in my new system, he is about to be making $150,000 per year on top of his scholarship. But here is the catch, EVERYONE is making $150,000 per year. No exceptions. The Heisman trophy contending starting QB is making $150,000 per year. And your top 15 walk-ons are making $150,000 per year. And if you sign the collective bargaining agreement you are ceding all your NIL and other money making rights away. Anyone caught taking NIL or other monies is immediately banned from college football, similar to recruiting violations of the past. And the new system will also revert back to the prior transfer rules, where it was possible, but a little painful. You have 5 years to play 5. Red-shirting is over. But THAT is how you solve it. Attack the mid-point such that the new scheme will be so beneficial and so much more financially profitable to the average guy, that they'd be foolish not to sign the agreement. All you need is a simple majority to unionize, so attack the mid-point to get it instituted. So then, what becomes of the superstars that are going to lose millions in this deal? That's easy. They can accept it. Or they can take a hike. I don't care. And you don't care. The powers that be think we care. Somehow they've convinced themselves that college football interest is driven by top tier players, top recruits, and the "stars." But this is a lie. We don't watch college sports because these are the best players in the world. That's the NFL's business model. If you took all these exact same players, and put them in minor league pro teams, nobody cares about this. 100,000 will flock into Neyland Stadium to watch the Tennessee Volunteers. You'd be lucky to get 5,000 to show up to watch the exact same roster, the Knoxville Bandits play the Tuscaloosa Tornados. Why? Because the players and their talents do not drive the value of this equation. The value of college football is almost 100% built on the name of the university, the decades of team tradition, your own family tradition of your team, the spirit and connection one has to their college and their alma mater. People need to realize this, and when the 5-stars complain about the millions of dollars they are losing out on, the system needs to have the guts to tell them, "Sorry, we don't care. If you can find somewhere else to find a better deal than what we are offering (which they absolutely cannot by the way), then we'll be thrilled for you. But this is what we offer. Take it or leave it." This is how to save this sport that we love before it is destroyed forever. There are definitely some things that have to still be worked out, given the disparity in revenue between conferences. But this is absolutely the general structure that must come about. This is the way forward.
Well written and you make some good points. But good God man can a brotha get a paragraph spacing.
 

hatfieldms

Well-known member
Feb 20, 2008
8,316
1,546
113
Is there a cliff notes version? It can still be one paragraph but maybe a little shorter
 

ababyatemydingo

Well-known member
Nov 27, 2008
3,087
1,724
113
The domino to your theory that would fall first is this...The Supreme Court has ruled that you cannot restrict their income earning ability whatsoever. So NIL isn't going away. They could still get NIL money outside of their union contract and you can't restrict them from doing so. So, you'll always have the "haves" paying more than the "have nots". It's no different than Dak having separate product endorsement contracts outside of his cowboys contract. Nothing can prevent it.
 

OG Goat Holder

Well-known member
Sep 30, 2022
8,725
8,238
113
The domino to your theory that would fall first is this...The Supreme Court has ruled that you cannot restrict their income earning ability whatsoever. So NIL isn't going away. They could still get NIL money outside of their union contract and you can't restrict them from doing so. So, you'll always have the "haves" paying more than the "have nots". It's no different than Dak having separate product endorsement contracts outside of his cowboys contract. Nothing can prevent it.
It's their choice to sign the agreement. If they don't, they can just be happy with the scholarship and go find their own NIL.
 

ababyatemydingo

Well-known member
Nov 27, 2008
3,087
1,724
113
It's their choice to sign the agreement. If they don't, they can just be happy with the scholarship and go find their own NIL.
you're exactly right, which is why the higher tier players won't touch collective bargaining. they've got a gravy train brewing, and they know it. I would dare say more than half "think" they're in the top tier, so you'd never get a majority to vote for a union, and as you said, even if a union was voted in, they aren't required to join it, by law
 

Bulldog Bruce

Well-known member
Nov 1, 2007
3,618
2,703
113
No union would agree to that.

But you can get agreements on multi-year scholarships and an adjustment to the transfer portal rules. Multi-year contracts will allow a team to keep a core of players. You can also get agreements on paying players playoff shares. You can never touch actual NIL because that is money outside the system (Patrick Mahomes doing all his commercials) but the money in the system can be negotiated. So don't pay players NIL, pay them negotiated profit sharing monies.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: patdog

OG Goat Holder

Well-known member
Sep 30, 2022
8,725
8,238
113
Is it just me, or would simply changing the immediate eligibility aspect of the portal solve everything? Then you would not have bidding wars every season for every player.

I'm also walking back what I said about coaching changes too. Someone pointed out the financial aspect of that, plus now the players get rev sharing no matter what. So you better choose wisely when you're 18.

Graduate early, and you can transfer. Or set some other academic mark like that, that's maybe a little earlier. Incentivize the right shlt.

And from what I understand, there's no court ruling that says you have to be able to transfer and be eligible, right?
 

SwampDawg

Active member
Feb 24, 2008
2,170
101
63
When do we do away with the requirement that they go to class and pass most of them? Let's do away with the farce and give them more time to practice and watch films ***
 

HRMSU

Well-known member
Apr 26, 2022
960
784
93
Is it just me, or would simply changing the immediate eligibility aspect of the portal solve everything? Then you would not have bidding wars every season for every player.

I'm also walking back what I said about coaching changes too. Someone pointed out the financial aspect of that, plus now the players get rev sharing no matter what. So you better choose wisely when you're 18.

Graduate early, and you can transfer. Or set some other academic mark like that, that's maybe a little earlier. Incentivize the right shlt.

And from what I understand, there's no court ruling that says you have to be able to transfer and be eligible, right?
Fixing portal immediate eligibility would go a long way in fixing it. Very few programs would pay top $ to wait on a kid.

If the industry I work in allowed our sales people to leave at any point without restrictions it would be absolute chaos for all manufacturers. The sales people would make out like a bandit but I don't know how you could even project a solid company revenue budget if your killers could leave at any time. Stock prices in the industry would tank.
 

johnson86-1

Well-known member
Aug 22, 2012
12,505
2,755
113
The domino to your theory that would fall first is this...The Supreme Court has ruled that you cannot restrict their income earning ability whatsoever. So NIL isn't going away. They could still get NIL money outside of their union contract and you can't restrict them from doing so. So, you'll always have the "haves" paying more than the "have nots". It's no different than Dak having separate product endorsement contracts outside of his cowboys contract. Nothing can prevent it.
No, they haven't. One justice wrote a concurring opinion that pretty clearly indicated he would view any restriction as an antitrust violation, but the only ruling is related to educational benefits.
 

Bulldog45

Well-known member
Oct 2, 2018
646
856
93
I think a real fix/controlling of the situation will come when the mid to lower level players start getting burned by the system to the point they push back. Pick up a bunch of players in December then get the chance to pick up another better or more cost effective batch in the spring…cut the December crew loose and wish them well.

No obligation and no commitment from either party and run it like the cutthroat business it is and it will eventually stabilize. At least that’s my hope. Very interested to see how Belichick runs things at UNC with no player contracts to tie him down.
 

The Peeper

Well-known member
Feb 26, 2008
12,574
6,027
113
College football is broken. Everyone knows it. But there is a solution. And this is it.

The courts have ruled that the NIL system MUST be allowed because there is no collective bargaining or college football union. To save it, the players must form a union and collectively bargain. But how do you make them change a system that's gone way too far in their direction? Here's exactly how you do it. The college football power brokers first must give up significant money from the revenue pool. We aren't going to pay players from fans and big boosters pooling money into NIL pay-for-play collectives. It's coming from the same place all other players in other leagues get paid.....ticket sales, merchandise sales, TV revenue, etc. But here is the KEY to making this work, and what will be so hard for the power brokers to do. You have to be willing to tick off the 5-star superstar players who are the primary beneficiaries of the current system. And you need to sell the unionized structure to the average run-of-the-mill mid-point player. Let's say the "average" player at an average major conference school is theoretically getting a $75k per year NIL deal currently. That may not be the right number, and these numbers can be changed to make this work, but just assume that's accurate for now. Well that player is in a lot of luck, Because in my new system, he is about to be making $150,000 per year on top of his scholarship. But here is the catch, EVERYONE is making $150,000 per year. No exceptions. The Heisman trophy contending starting QB is making $150,000 per year. And your top 15 walk-ons are making $150,000 per year. And if you sign the collective bargaining agreement you are ceding all your NIL and other money making rights away. Anyone caught taking NIL or other monies is immediately banned from college football, similar to recruiting violations of the past. And the new system will also revert back to the prior transfer rules, where it was possible, but a little painful. You have 5 years to play 5. Red-shirting is over. But THAT is how you solve it. Attack the mid-point such that the new scheme will be so beneficial and so much more financially profitable to the average guy, that they'd be foolish not to sign the agreement. All you need is a simple majority to unionize, so attack the mid-point to get it instituted. So then, what becomes of the superstars that are going to lose millions in this deal? That's easy. They can accept it. Or they can take a hike. I don't care. And you don't care. The powers that be think we care. Somehow they've convinced themselves that college football interest is driven by top tier players, top recruits, and the "stars." But this is a lie. We don't watch college sports because these are the best players in the world. That's the NFL's business model. If you took all these exact same players, and put them in minor league pro teams, nobody cares about this. 100,000 will flock into Neyland Stadium to watch the Tennessee Volunteers. You'd be lucky to get 5,000 to show up to watch the exact same roster, the Knoxville Bandits play the Tuscaloosa Tornados. Why? Because the players and their talents do not drive the value of this equation. The value of college football is almost 100% built on the name of the university, the decades of team tradition, your own family tradition of your team, the spirit and connection one has to their college and their alma mater. People need to realize this, and when the 5-stars complain about the millions of dollars they are losing out on, the system needs to have the guts to tell them, "Sorry, we don't care. If you can find somewhere else to find a better deal than what we are offering (which they absolutely cannot by the way), then we'll be thrilled for you. But this is what we offer. Take it or leave it." This is how to save this sport that we love before it is destroyed forever. There are definitely some things that have to still be worked out, given the disparity in revenue between conferences. But this is absolutely the general structure that must come about. This is the way forward.
Taking Forever Tom Hanks GIF by PBS SoCal
 
Get unlimited access today.

Pick the right plan for you.

Already a member? Login