Said they weren’t going by head to head. But that is exactly what they did. He put both ole Miss and Bama ahead and they want Bama in because of the brand name. Screw those ba$tards.
The committee screwed us!
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14th, what a joke. Bama won't get in either.
The best ACC team won't get in.
And Clemson might.
What a system.
The best ACC team won't get in.
And Clemson might.
What a system.
Total BS. We were a long shot but Miami’s rank is a joke. Total BS . Do we have a path left? Win lose records playing more than strength of schedule. Hope Clemson loses now because it looks like 2 , if not 3 from the EZZ could in. Absurd!
This was so easy to predict from several weeks ago.
We weren't going to get in, and this was obvious for quite some time. We had 3 losses and the teams in front of us (Bama, Ole Miss) beat us
on head to head competition.
In my opinion a 3 loss team for a field of 12 does not deserve to be included regardless of conference affiliation, or when said school decided to get hot ( end of season).
Go ahead, Flame away.
We weren't going to get in, and this was obvious for quite some time. We had 3 losses and the teams in front of us (Bama, Ole Miss) beat us
on head to head competition.
In my opinion a 3 loss team for a field of 12 does not deserve to be included regardless of conference affiliation, or when said school decided to get hot ( end of season).
Go ahead, Flame away.
Im not necessarily saying we belong but this bama favoratism is glaring.
And that includes Alabama which is the only true beef I have at the moment.
Correction, they're probably in. It will be Miami that gets bounced for Arizona St or Iowa St.
If Boise loses, that should just be a swap with UNLV.
A road win at Clemson is worth moving up one spot. Just wow is all I have to say. Very obvious now that this has absolutely zero to do with the best 12 teams. Truthfully, I could’ve lived with being 12 and getting bounced because of dumb auto-bids. But moving from 15 to 14 after a road win at number 12 is a slap in the face and a clear message sent that you will only get in our playoff if you’re a conference champion or a money-making brand. I’m truly not mad about being left out of the playoff, I’m angry that these decisions are being made by the dumbest of people.
The system disagrees with your opinion.
With this system, a conference champ can have more than 3 losses and will get an auto bid. Just another built-in contradiction that results from trying to camouflage an invitiational tournament as one of "the 12 best teams". Their is no provision for excluding a 3-loss (or more) conference champ.
They should just be honest and say, "we don't think these are the best teams, just the ones that will give us the best numbers for selling ads". But they're in the business of selling "hope" to fans, not honesty.
They're not dumb.
It's political - in the sense that they will say whatever they have to say to rationalize a list...... and next year if the rationalizations have to change to fit the narrative, they will change the rationalizations. What was rationalized this year will likely change next year, etc, etc......
They will say whatever it takes. The only dumb people are those that believe they actually pick the best 12 teams. Or 24 teams, or whatever the number is. It's money, it's politics, it's a beauty pageant, it's everything but the 12 "best" teams.
If it was about the "best" teams, a computer could do it by strength of schedule vs wins, vs a few more metrics..... (Which is how it ought to be)
But when a computer crunches the numbers, it takes the "powers that be" and their "influence" and $$$ out of if....and we can't have that.....
Once you include auto bids, it's no longer the "12 best".
I guess if we had beaten #1 Oregon on the road this weekend instead of #12 Clemson, the result would have been the same since head-to-head could never be overcome.
It is interesting that Ole Miss benefitted from our win over Clemson exactly the same amount we did (one spot).
It's also interesting that beating the #12 team on the road nets you a one spot gain while taking 8 overtimes to finally put away Georgia Tech at home nets you a two-spot improvement.
It is interesting that Ole Miss benefitted from our win over Clemson exactly the same amount we did (one spot).
It's also interesting that beating the #12 team on the road nets you a one spot gain while taking 8 overtimes to finally put away Georgia Tech at home nets you a two-spot improvement.
This means there is no incentive to have a harder schedule. Ever. Especially if you are in the SEC or Big 10. Might as well stop trying to schedule UNC or NC State or any other major conference team. Play the SEC schedule, three powder puffs and hope to god we beat Clemson. Because two losses will always be better than three. And one will always be better than two. Strength of schedule be damned.
When did they ever say they weren’t going by head to head? It’s always the #1 tiebreaker. Nice season. Birmingham has a nice bowl, I hear.
Drop Clemmons too..... there is no upside to beating them.... this past weekend proved that. That's just a fact. It is what it is, apparently.
Well, we have been fine with taking the SEC money for years without producing other than a couple of years. I didn't expect to get in. But if we build on the foundation that is laid, then we will get the respect we deserve. We can't have it both ways. Just win.
Mods - read through this guys "posts" - and ban him. He's a POS troll. Nothing more.
I don't take issue with most of this, just the part about the computer removing influence, etc. I can write code to generate whatever outcome I desire and I can modify that code from week to week, if needed.
Computers only do the bidding of their masters; their advantage is they do it much quicker than people and don't require a union-mandated break every 15 minutes.
Unbelievable. Miami over us????
I can accept Bama and Ole Miss. Head to head is hard to argue against but MIAMI??
And Ohio State lost to an unranked team at home and STILL will host a playoff game
At least this year. Who knows what the criteria will be next year. I’ve been pretty frank about my opinion that no three loss team should play for the national title, however, it is obvious that the system is rigged. I can understand us, not making it, but only moving up one spot After beating the number 12 team? Makes no sense.
Unless you’re a blue blood, you’re never getting the benefit of the doubt. Ever. Alabama on the other hand has been absolutely gifted a spot in the playoffs two years in a row now. Purely gifted.
So, beating Pee Wee Herman 10 times out of 12 is more impressive than beating Mike Tyson 9 times out of 12?
That's the simpleton logic the "committee" uses. People who actually make their living using logic don't subscribe to this... or they don't make a living at it for very long.
That doesn't matter. BIG12 champ will get automatic bid which will push Miami out.
I don't mind either Iowa St or Arizona St getting as they will only have two losses, but putting Bama at 3 losses proves beyond doubt the BIAS is real for them.
Definitely a ''Legacy Club'' mentality.
I thought they had established something new about choosing teams with the potential to win after last year's FSU snub.
Must have been a ''Legacy Club'' exception to benefit a member of the club.
I go back to the ''blind resume'' as the only way to fairly do this thing.
I thought they had established something new about choosing teams with the potential to win after last year's FSU snub.
Must have been a ''Legacy Club'' exception to benefit a member of the club.
I go back to the ''blind resume'' as the only way to fairly do this thing.
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Although the possibility exists in the future for that scenario to occur, that will not be the case this year.
When the field expands to 16 obviously the 3 loss criteria will no longer be applicable.
BTW: I am extremely confident that many if not most agree with my opinion for the exclusion of a 3 loss team.
I’m not one that believes you should treat conferences different if that’s the case then subdivide college football. Teams can’t control what conference they play in for the most part. IMHO until that happens 2 loses beats 3 loses. Let’s not forget that Georgia tech just took Georgia to 8 overtimes. I believe the conference narrative is blown way out of proportion. So I guess consider me not a sec homer. Miami should be in over 3 loss Acc teams. They faced their schedule and did better.
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