The elephant in the room - Defense

[Thebulldogcountry1]

We hired an OC to be our next head coach when it felt like we were promised someone with more experience (again). The fanbase seemed to buy into that after Lebby got to campus. After all, we can save big bucks on having to pay huge buyouts AND having to hire an OC. That should have left a nice chunk to go after an experienced DC and some really good assistants.

<crickets>

We then proceed to hire several guys on the defensive side that cannot possibly instill any confidence in anyone. Maybe they will be great, but we all have to look at the resumes at this point. The biggest thing we were left to get excited about was retaining Turner. Recruits seem to agree, because the commitments we are getting now consist of portal guys with no stats and JUCOs.

What am I missing here? Tell me I am missing something.

 

[ZombieKissinger]

We hired an elephant as DC, so should’ve seen this coming

 

[KentuckyDawg13]

It's all about NIL$ now.

 

[aTotal360]

We hired an elephant as DC, so should’ve seen this coming

6/10

 

[SchrodingersDawg]

 

[patdog]

Whatever you're missing, I'm missing it too.

 

[civildawg88]

I will NEVER understand the DC hire we made. You could have went and got a good G5 DC that's called plays and is proven yet you hired a no name career position coach from Bama where they didn't even know him

 

[Darryl Steight]

We hired an OC to be our next head coach when it felt like we were promised someone with more experience (again). The fanbase seemed to buy into that after Lebby got to campus. After all, we can save big bucks on having to pay huge buyouts AND having to hire an OC. That should have left a nice chunk to go after an experienced DC and some really good assistants.

<crickets>

We then proceed to hire several guys on the defensive side that cannot possibly instill any confidence in anyone. Maybe they will be great, but we all have to look at the resumes at this point. The biggest thing we were left to get excited about was retaining Turner. Recruits seem to agree, because the commitments we are getting now consist of portal guys with no stats and JUCOs.

What am I missing here? Tell me I am missing something.

My answer (to you and most of our fan base) would be, "calm down, let's wait and see".

Usually, the guys doing the hiring in these situations have more information on the guy hired than the general fan in the wild. Meaning, Lebby interviewed him, listened to his plan and defensive philosophy, talked to other people who know him - and he saw enough potential that he hired him. Think about that - he had to hire a guy that may cost him his own $5M/year job if he sucks too bad. So I imagine Lebby thinks this new DC has potential, even though I couldn't tell you his name to save my life right now.

Even Matt Brock, who everyone wanted to string up early, got better toward the end of this season. Young guys have to start somewhere, and they usually get better as they go along. So let's see what happens this year before we jump off the cliff.

 

[Rupert Jenkins]

Lately I have disagreed with most of the ridiculous comments on this board but this I have to agree with. I was really hoping for better. Durkin or even Collins I was assuming. I liked the thought of bringing back the Psycho defense. And I figured Collins would take the job. Idk. We just have to assume this guy is the next great DC. I guess Lebby knows what he is doing. And Barnes too. Not enamored with that either. Keep the faith. If these coaches are as good as Lebby apparently thinks they are it will be good

 

[Ranchdawg]

I will NEVER understand the DC hire we made. You could have went and got a good G5 DC that's called plays and is proven yet you hired a no name career position coach from Bama where they didn't even know him

Didn't we try that on offense?

 

[Darryl Steight]

Lately I have disagreed with most of the ridiculous comments on this board but this I have to agree with. I was really hoping for better. Durkin or even Collins I was assuming. I liked the thought of bringing back the Psycho defense. And I figured Collins would take the job. Idk. We just have to assume this guy is the next great DC. I guess Lebby knows what he is doing. And Barnes too. Not enamored with that either. Keep the faith. If these coaches are as good as Lebby apparently thinks they are it will be good

Kinda where I was - figured we would get someone I had heard of, but that didn't work out. Next guy is up, hopefully Lebby knows what he's doing.

 

[bulldoghair]

I suggested why not just keep Brock?

 

[kired]

We're replacing practically our entire starting defense anyway. Got to expect we were going to struggle on that side of the ball regardless of who was hired. It honestly may be a situation where potential DCs looked at our returning personnel and said no thanks. It's a complete rebuild after losing multiple guys who were like 25 years old and been starting for 4-5 years.

 

[Mr. Cook]

We hired an elephant as DC, so should’ve seen this coming

Coach Saban says elephants are "scarier"********

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Lebby is an offensive savant, mane. He's gonna turn us into a fundamental scoring machine, even though that's never been done in our history.

 

[Old Dawg]

We hired an OC to be our next head coach when it felt like we were promised someone with more experience (again). The fanbase seemed to buy into that after Lebby got to campus. After all, we can save big bucks on having to pay huge buyouts AND having to hire an OC. That should have left a nice chunk to go after an experienced DC and some really good assistants.

<crickets>

We then proceed to hire several guys on the defensive side that cannot possibly instill any confidence in anyone. Maybe they will be great, but we all have to look at the resumes at this point. The biggest thing we were left to get excited about was retaining Turner. Recruits seem to agree, because the commitments we are getting now consist of portal guys with no stats and JUCOs.

What am I missing here? Tell me I am missing something.

Doom and gloom, true MSU fans

 

[Anon1669338224]

You have to have a good D to sniff any success in this league. Even the so called offensive powerhouses in the league fail to score 30 plus several times a year.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

Doom and gloom, true MSU fans

One should not read this page unless you are on the proper medication.

 

[NWADawg]

Lately I have disagreed with most of the ridiculous comments on this board but this I have to agree with. I was really hoping for better. Durkin or even Collins I was assuming. I liked the thought of bringing back the Psycho defense. And I figured Collins would take the job. Idk. We just have to assume this guy is the next great DC. I guess Lebby knows what he is doing. And Barnes too. Not enamored with that either. Keep the faith. If these coaches are as good as Lebby apparently thinks they are it will be good

I think most of us were hoping for a better (more known/splashier/confidence inspiring) name. I guess we want really know until September how good our DC really is. He may be better than all of the big names mentioned. He may suck.

 

[Son_of_34]

I will NEVER understand the DC hire we made. You could have went and got a good G5 DC that's called plays and is proven yet you hired a no name career position coach from Bama where they didn't even know him

This...3 teams in the top 15 defenses
4. Ohio
11. SMU
15. Troy

All DCs could have been risky but at least they were proven to be good at scheming and play calling

 

[Rupert Jenkins]

We're replacing practically our entire starting defense anyway. Got to expect we were going to struggle on that side of the ball regardless of who was hired. It honestly may be a situation where potential DCs looked at our returning personnel and said no thanks. It's a complete rebuild after losing multiple guys who were like 25 years old and been starting for 4-5 years.

This is a fact. We don't know what to expect tho. Contrary to popular opinion we have a bunch of guys that were good recruits over the last 3 years. They have been working out and practicing for years. It's possible we have most of the pieces we need once they get some first team reps. Cornerback room is thin but everywhere else we got guys. Are they players ? Guess we gonna find out