The First Game --

[retsio]

Question for all the 'Analysts', the 'Experts', the 'Arm-Chair or Next Day Coaches' ---- how much did we hide from future opponents ??

The O never used the TE's except for blocking, the OL was not overpowering against cover O and 6-7 in the box.
The D line used stunts rather than straight up man assignments, the LB's did not 'tackle' or was the wrong player in the game and too slow.

We have a passing attack with a good QB and good WR's and a running attack with good RB's, we have a good D that is not together yet, and got a 'W' without 'showing' too much. Just how much will we complain about, because believe it or not - Penn State is 1-0.

 

[Nitt1300]

Clearly you are new here- complaining is pretty much all we do.

 

[WestSideLion]

Yesterday was about as good a first game win as possible. It was a Power 5 team and a traditional rival. PSU covered a big spread with a first-time starting QB.

There was enough to correct and improve that the team can’t get comfortable and start drinking its own Kool-Aid.

The offense basically had its way despite a vanilla game plan. The revamped WRs looked solid save for a couple of drops. There was plenty of room to run for Singleton and Allen.

The defense had some breakdowns that are fixable with work and hopefully getting a key player or two healthy. We all knew DT was going to be a question mark.

 

[BobPSU92]

Question for all the 'Analysts', the 'Experts', the 'Arm-Chair or Next Day Coaches' ---- how much did we hide from future opponents ??

The O never used the TE's except for blocking, the OL was not overpowering against cover O and 6-7 in the box.
The D line used stunts rather than straight up man assignments, the LB's did not 'tackle' or was the wrong player in the game and too slow.

We have a passing attack with a good QB and good WR's and a running attack with good RB's, we have a good D that is not together yet, and got a 'W' without 'showing' too much. Just how much will we complain about, because believe it or not - Penn State is 1-0.

We didn’t want to show Delaware anything on film.

 

[rudedude]

Allar has a strong arm and he needs to not fall in love with the idea that he can make the throws without good mechanics. I witnessed a lot of falling back and throwing the pass, and, yes, he got the ball there but there will be some d backs that will make picks off those throws.

 

[BW Lion]

We're going to learn a lot in two weeks when PSu travels to Illinois. I suspect Belima will dust off his 2021 game plan. Manny better have a better game plan than did Pry.

 

[Bison13]

Clearly you are new here- complaining is pretty much all we do.

If you ain’t complaining, you ain’t trying.

 

[bdgan]

We didn’t want to show Delaware anything on film.

They'll be coming to Happy Valley full of confidence after their big win over Stony Brook.

 

[bdgan]

We're going to learn a lot in two weeks when PSu travels to Illinois. I suspect Belima will dust off his 2021 game plan. Manny better have a better game plan than did Pry.

Clifford was injured in the 2021 game and shouldn't have played.

 

[Meat Lab]

Yesterday was about as good a first game win as possible. It was a Power 5 team and a traditional rival. PSU covered a big spread with a first-time starting QB.

There was enough to correct and improve that the team can’t get comfortable and start drinking its own Kool-Aid.

The offense basically had its way despite a vanilla game plan. The revamped WRs looked solid save for a couple of drops. There was plenty of room to run for Singleton and Allen.

The defense had some breakdowns that are fixable with work and hopefully getting a key player or two healthy. We all knew DT was going to be a question mark.

Franklin has admitted more than once the need to get bigger at DT.

 

[LionJim]

Allar has a strong arm and he needs to not fall in love with the idea that he can make the throws without good mechanics. I witnessed a lot of falling back and throwing the pass, and, yes, he got the ball there but there will be some d backs that will make picks off those throws.

Yeah, a little too much from the back foot, yeah.

 

[leinbacker]

I’m guessing the early season focus is on the QB and WRs. The TEs and running backs are a known commodity.

 

[MacNit]

Yesterday was about as good a first game win as possible. It was a Power 5 team and a traditional rival. PSU covered a big spread with a first-time starting QB.

There was enough to correct and improve that the team can’t get comfortable and start drinking its own Kool-Aid.

The offense basically had its way despite a vanilla game plan. The revamped WRs looked solid save for a couple of drops. There was plenty of room to run for Singleton and Allen.

The defense had some breakdowns that are fixable with work and hopefully getting a key player or two healthy. We all knew DT was going to be a question mark.

Here is my assessment of what I saw:

I thought we would have a great defense...they did not even look good. And it's how they did not look good that has me really concerned. Tackling was bad. Play at point of attack was bad. Being in position to make plays was atrocious. Line looked weak. No pass rush. Linebacker play was so bad my mouth is still wide open. Outside of Dixon, secondary play was bad. Kalen King should be ashamed.

I though the Oline would be very good and they were below average.

I hoped the wideouts would be good to very good ...they looked average.

The special teams was other worldly bad (outside the big kickoff dude). Will cost us at least one game.

QB plays was very good (I hoped/expected it to be).

RB play was very good but I expected excellent. OLine may be to blame.

No bonehead in-game coaching but not really tested.

Only 1 penalty. Excellent.

 

[MacNit]

Franklin has admitted more than once the need to get bigger at DT.

Who is in charge of doing something about it? Good grief.

 

[LB99]

Clifford was injured in the 2021 game and shouldn't have played.

Clifford wasn’t the issue in that game. The issue was the defense couldn’t stop the Illinois run game. They didn’t even try to hide that they were going to run and Pry stubbornly didn’t adjust.

 

[WestSideLion]

Here is my assessment of what I saw:

I thought we would have a great defense...they did not even look good. And it's how they did not look good that has me really concerned. Tackling was bad. Play at point of attack was bad. Being in position to make plays was atrocious. Line looked weak. No pass rush. Linebacker play was so bad my mouth is still wide open. Outside of Dixon, secondary play was bad. Kalen King should be ashamed.

I though the Oline would be very good and they were below average.

I hoped the wideouts would be good to very good ...they looked average.

The special teams was other worldly bad (outside the big kickoff dude). Will cost us at least one game.

QB plays was very good (I hoped/expected it to be).

RB play was very good but I expected excellent. OLine may be to blame.

No bonehead in-game coaching but not really tested.

Only 1 penalty. Excellent.

Give the defense a game or two. There’s too much talent for them to be poor this season. We also need to see how good the WVU OL is. It’s possible they have a good unit and that’s to blame for some of what you type.

 

[MacNit]

Give the defense a game or two. There’s too much talent for them to be poor this season. We also need to see how good the WVU OL is. It’s possible they have a good unit and that’s to blame for some of what you type.

They are suddenly going to be stout? It’s not a scheme issue it’s a toughness issue.

All the promise coming out of Pasadena and hype leading into the season and then to witness Saturday. What a disappointment. Same ole same old…after 10 years, we gut suckered into thinking something would be different. That certainly included me.

Tough football players are needed.

 

[MacNit]

Give the defense a game or two. There’s too much talent for them to be poor this season. We also need to see how good the WVU OL is. It’s possible they have a good unit and that’s to blame for some of what you type.

Oddsmaker project WVU to be 2-10. They are horrid.

 

[bdgan]

Clifford wasn’t the issue in that game. The issue was the defense couldn’t stop the Illinois run game. They didn’t even try to hide that they were going to run and Pry stubbornly didn’t adjust.

Illinois only scored 10 points in regulation.

 

[LB99]

Illinois only scored 10 points in regulation.

They shouldn’t have even scored that. They were so one dimensional that they were going goal line offense anywhere on the field and PSU wasn’t adapting or able to stop it. They had no offense from the QB at all. 357 yards rushing. Chase Brown had 223 of that himself. 38 yards passing. One of the more frustrating games of the Pry era.

 

[troutrus]

Point spread -20.5
Final score 38-15 us.
’nough said.

 

[MaconNitt]

Point spread -20.5
Final score 38-15 us.
’nough said.

 

[BobPSU92]

Point spread -20.5
Final score 38-15 us.
’nough said.

Not good enough.

 

[LB99]

Oddsmaker project WVU to be 2-10. They are horrid.

The oddsmakers didn’t have PSU winning 11 games and the Rose Bowl last year either. They are frequently wrong. Do I think WVU will win the Big 12? No. But there appears to be some talent on that team. Finishing .500 probably isn’t unreasonable for them.

 

[Nitt1300]

No win is ever good enough, and the negative Nellies just bask in every loss. Toxicity.

 

[Bkmtnittany1]

They are suddenly going to be stout? It’s not a scheme issue it’s a toughness issue.

All the promise coming out of Pasadena and hype leading into the season and then to witness Saturday. What a disappointment. Same ole same old…after 10 years, we gut suckered into thinking something would be different. That certainly included me.

Tough football players are needed.

You need the weather thread to come back! Or a beer!

 

[manatree]

Oddsmaker project WVU to be 2-10. They are horrid.

The oddsmakers didn’t have PSU winning 11 games and the Rose Bowl last year either. They are frequently wrong. Do I think WVU will win the Big 12? No. But there appears to be some talent on that team. Finishing .500 probably isn’t unreasonable for them.

Oddsmakers have no intention of predicting the future, only controlling the betting in their favor.

 

[BobPSU92]

No win is ever good enough, and the negative Nellies just bask in every loss. Toxicity.

We Are!

 

[BobPSU92]

You need the weather thread to come back! Or a beer!

Beer? We deserve better. I’m enjoying a cup of coffee and a blueberry danish.

 

[rudedude]

On a positive note, we found both of our bricks at Legacy Plaza Saturday. Done nicely. Our dearly departed friend Ray is now a part of Beaver Stadium.

 

[LB99]

Oddsmakers have no intention of predicting the future, only controlling the betting in their favor.

Exactly.

 

[Nits1989]

Oddsmaker project WVU to be 2-10. They are horrid.

I’m not sure I believe the oddsmaker is right. WVU won 5 games last year. They played TCU to a 41-31 loss. This year, they played PSU very tough. They seemed to have talent on both lines. They have a decent RB, WR and TE.

Take a look at Georgia’s team stats against Tennessee Martin. Tennessee Martin ran 29 times for 134 yards and an average of 4.6 yards per rush. WVU rushed 40 times for 146 yards and an average of 3.7 yards per carry. My memory might be wrong, but I remember PSU playing a base defense with 4 in the box for a lot of the game. In contrast, I thought WVU had 5 and 6 in the box for most of the first half. We were also missing Izard. I don’t think PSU threw all they had defensively at WVU, and WVU statistically was held to 3.7 per rush with a big and talented OL with 2 high 4 star tackles and an AA center.

I don’t know how long Georgia’s defensive starters played, but the starting QB played for 3 quarters. Tennessee Martin is not WVU. Georgia’s third string can handle Tennessee Martin, and Tennessee Martin still ran the ball as effectively as WVU.

PSU rotated defensive players throughout the game. Some other posters noted that at some point later in the game, PSU put in its 2nd and 3rd string players.

PSU should have scored at least 6 more points.

WVU has some talent, but not depth. WVU should be able to hang with better teams with more depth until they run out of gas. I think we all remember many games like that.

 

[Roar More]

No turn overs, which is good news/bad news. No give aways/no take aways.

 

[Woodpecker]

Here is my assessment of what I saw:

I thought we would have a great defense...they did not even look good. And it's how they did not look good that has me really concerned. Tackling was bad. Play at point of attack was bad. Being in position to make plays was atrocious. Line looked weak. No pass rush. Linebacker play was so bad my mouth is still wide open. Outside of Dixon, secondary play was bad. Kalen King should be ashamed.

They seem to have changed their tackling technique. Instead of a wrap-and-roll, many seemed to opt for a high body grab and throw approach. I didn't like it but maybe I'm just old.

Unrelated, I almost lost my mind when Abdul Carter had a wide open field shot on their running QB and flat out whiffed without being faked.

 

[CVLion]

They seem to have changed their tackling technique. Instead of a wrap-and-roll, many seemed to opt for a high body grab and throw approach. I didn't like it but maybe I'm just old.

Unrelated, I almost lost my mind when Abdul Carter had a wide open field shot on their running QB and flat out whiffed without being faked.

Yeah, that was a frustrating moment with Carter

 

[1995PSUGrad]

Clearly you are new here- complaining is pretty much all we do.

Indubitably!