The gun thread (not the topic)

[dorndawg]

Kudos all around on the gun thread. Several posts were really thoughtful, and it remained highly civil 95% of the time. Sixpackers really showed a high level of maturity, awareness, and breadth of knowledge.

On one hand, we'd probably get more done if the entirety of the US senate was replaced by a consortium of Sixpackers. On the other, we'd never recover financially from the hit to the national deficit due to increased spending at the Congressional cafeteria.

 

[ronpolk]

Drebin and glfer as senate majority and minority leaders. Be much more entertaining than Schumer and McConnell.

Maybe goat could be in there too. I feel like goat wouldn’t toe party lines as closely as Drebin and glfer. Goat would just tell everyone how stupid they were

 

[mstateglfr]

On the other, we'd never recover financially from the hit to the national deficit due to increased spending at the Congressional cafeteria.

Put Jethreauxdawg in charge of cafeteria portions and it would be the fittest Congress on record.
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[Shmuley]

DS as Senator Blutarksy.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

Hey! I resemble that remark!

 

[jethreauxdawg]

If you rollerblade

To the office, you can have double portions #caloriedeficit

 

[johnson86-1]

Kudos all around on the gun thread. Several posts were really thoughtful, and it remained highly civil 95% of the time. Sixpackers really showed a high level of maturity, awareness, and breadth of knowledge.

On one hand, we'd probably get more done if the entirety of the US senate was replaced by a consortium of Sixpackers. On the other, we'd never recover financially from the hit to the national deficit due to increased spending at the Congressional cafeteria.

I think it was just locked too quickly for us to show our true colors. I assume several people were like me and had 12 paragraph screeds typed up pointing out what mutha17er limp *&!@ commies several posters are but just didn't quite hit post before the thread was locked.

 

[Phil Wenneck.sixpack]

It really was refreshing to see. In today's press conference, things just keep

getting worse and worse for local police. That town's law enforcement already looked incompetent enough as it was. Now we've learned an officer drove right past the suspect as he was waiting to go into the school. Oh and the tactical team arrived earlier than previously reported only to be held back by the police dept. Simply unreal and unfathomable.

 

[GloryDawg]

DS as Senator Blutarksy.

Pat as Majority Whip.

 

[dorndawg]

JoeLeesSocks will replace the entire Congressional Budget Office. This will however be revenue neutral as he will want to be paid in brisket.

 

[ronpolk]

JoeLeesSocks will replace the entire Congressional Budget Office. This will however be revenue neutral as he will want to be paid in brisket.

ClintonInHelen could be the new Anthony Weiner

 

[Drebin]

Drebin and glfer as senate majority and minority leaders. Be much more entertaining than Schumer and McConnell.

Maybe goat could be in there too. I feel like goat wouldn’t toe party lines as closely as Drebin and glfer. Goat would just tell everyone how stupid they were

As long as I am the majority leader.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

So you’re thinking Goat as one of the talking heads / pundits?

I could imagine the shows to be something like this…

 

[johnson86-1]

getting worse and worse for local police. That town's law enforcement already looked incompetent enough as it was. Now we've learned an officer drove right past the suspect as he was waiting to go into the school. Oh and the tactical team arrived earlier than previously reported only to be held back by the police dept. Simply unreal and unfathomable.

Yea, I was really hoping the video of them holding parents back was because they already had other officers attempting to breach where the shooter was and they didn't want more civilians in there to complicate the situation, but it looks like they really were refusing to help while also refusing to let parents attempt to do something.

I don't want things any harder for police, but I'd be willing to consider a tort or criminal charge for officers that refuse to help in active shooter situations. At that point, they've basically been defrauding the local community because they pretend that they're going to provide services in exchange for payment but after they've been collecting money for months or years, when they need to stop the slaughter of innocents, they don't fulfill their duties. So not only did they take money without holding up their end of the bargain, they also ensured that somebody that maybe would have helped didn't have that job.

And it's not like they were asked to wade into gang warfare. They had to go after one gunman. I'm sure I would have been shitting my pants if I had to face down a gunman, even if I had three or four other officers to help, but I'd like to think I could do it if somebody was basically executing elementary school kids.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Or the last male Clinton in DC, he didn't cull much either **

 

[SteelCurtain74]

Yea, I was really hoping the video of them holding parents back was because they already had other officers attempting to breach where the shooter was and they didn't want more civilians in there to complicate the situation, but it looks like they really were refusing to help while also refusing to let parents attempt to do something.

I don't want things any harder for police, but I'd be willing to consider a tort or criminal charge for officers that refuse to help in active shooter situations. At that point, they've basically been defrauding the local community because they pretend that they're going to provide services in exchange for payment but after they've been collecting money for months or years, when they need to stop the slaughter of innocents, they don't fulfill their duties. So not only did they take money without holding up their end of the bargain, they also ensured that somebody that maybe would have helped didn't have that job.

And it's not like they were asked to wade into gang warfare. They had to go after one gunman. I'm sure I would have been shitting my pants if I had to face down a gunman, even if I had three or four other officers to help, but I'd like to think I could do it if somebody was basically executing elementary school kids.

In the Parkland shooting case, the security guard on duty at the time had multiple charges of child neglect, culpable negligence and perjury brought against him. He faced a possible 96 years in prison. I'm not sure what he ended up getting though.

 

[thatsbaseball]

I'd bet on two things. 1) 98% of the households in Uvalde have guns. 2) some of these "LEO's" who were standing around outside that school will be getting their asses out of there shortly.

 

[BoomBoom.sixpack]

Yea, I was really hoping the video of them holding parents back was because they already had other officers attempting to breach where the shooter was and they didn't want more civilians in there to complicate the situation, but it looks like they really were refusing to help while also refusing to let parents attempt to do something.

I don't want things any harder for police, but I'd be willing to consider a tort or criminal charge for officers that refuse to help in active shooter situations. At that point, they've basically been defrauding the local community because they pretend that they're going to provide services in exchange for payment but after they've been collecting money for months or years, when they need to stop the slaughter of innocents, they don't fulfill their duties. So not only did they take money without holding up their end of the bargain, they also ensured that somebody that maybe would have helped didn't have that job.

And it's not like they were asked to wade into gang warfare. They had to go after one gunman. I'm sure I would have been shitting my pants if I had to face down a gunman, even if I had three or four other officers to help, but I'd like to think I could do it if somebody was basically executing elementary school kids.

The part that got me was that there's a local SWAT team....but it's "part-time" so it can't respond to emergencies. What the hell is the point of a SWAT team that can't respond to emergencies? Is this normal?

The other part doesn't surprise me. That's how they're trained these days.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

I was pleasantly surprised that most people honored the request to not walk it political. Refreshing.

 

[dorndawg]

Yea, I was really hoping the video of them holding parents back was because they already had other officers attempting to breach where the shooter was and they didn't want more civilians in there to complicate the situation, but it looks like they really were refusing to help while also refusing to let parents attempt to do something.

I don't want things any harder for police, but I'd be willing to consider a tort or criminal charge for officers that refuse to help in active shooter situations. At that point, they've basically been defrauding the local community because they pretend that they're going to provide services in exchange for payment but after they've been collecting money for months or years, when they need to stop the slaughter of innocents, they don't fulfill their duties. So not only did they take money without holding up their end of the bargain, they also ensured that somebody that maybe would have helped didn't have that job.

And it's not like they were asked to wade into gang warfare. They had to go after one gunman. I'm sure I would have been shitting my pants if I had to face down a gunman, even if I had three or four other officers to help, but I'd like to think I could do it if somebody was basically executing elementary school kids.

The police literally have no duty to defend citizens. Scotus has ruled this way repeatedly. Many are shocked to learn this. I for one think it is horseshit.

https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/...ot-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html

 

[ronpolk]

Or the last male Clinton in DC, he didn't cull much either **

Who among us wouldn’t do what Clinton did in the Oval Office if given the opportunity… if I ever become President, it might be the first thing I do in the Oval Office**

 

[M R DAWGS]

Who among us wouldn’t do what Clinton did in the Oval Office if given the opportunity… if I ever become President, it might be the first thing I do in the Oval Office**

Spoken like a true democrat. Puss is important, but the welfare of a nation takes precedence.

 

[dorndawg]

Spoken like a true democrat. Puss is important, but the welfare of a nation takes precedence.

 

[SteelCurtain74]

Someone in the other thread asked about knowing if there was commonality with these school shooters. A psychologist by the name of Peter Langman did such a study:

https://acrobat.adobe.com/link/review?uri=urn:aaid:scds:US:7347bbf8-3fa7-319e-8ea9-b1a3ee42801b

He also wrote a book called Warning Sign which came out last year and you can buy on Amazon that talks about what to look for. I haven't read it yet but plan to do so.

 

[ronpolk]

Spoken like a true democrat. Puss is important, but the welfare of a nation takes precedence.

Oh good lord… I included the **

 

[harrybollocks]

Europe, Canada and Australia apparently don't have to worry nearly as much about those warning signs. They must just have fewer boys and young men likely to be mentally ill and unstable enough and from broken homes to commit these types of mass shootings and murders. I wonder what their secret is.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

Less freedom. Before you say the kids are safer with less freedom, research what Trudeau’s dad did to the indian children. That’s the exact reason we need guns.

 

[ckDOG]

United States is getting close to a 1T annual military budget

Less freedom. Before you say the kids are safer with less freedom, research what Trudeau’s dad did to the indian children. That’s the exact reason we need guns.

We are safe from external threats. Big plus. Flip side is you are boned should that force decide to become tyrannical against you or me. We crossed that bridge long ago. 2A ain't saving nobody from whoever controls those assets should they be used for nefarious purposes. Any thought that we are or could be on equal ground as a tyranny check is a fantasy at this point.