The Rev. is a heppin Golson to Oxford minus $1 million..

fishwater99

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Word is that Golson is turing down the Red Sox's offer of over a million to come to play football for the Nutt......
 

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Word is that Golson is turing down the Red Sox's offer of over a million to come to play football for the Nutt......
 

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I sent him a copy of my sig as propaganda material with the hopes he would end up here....looks like it worked.
 

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a third of that mil. So going to UM should end up about a wash for him. Plus he doesn't have to endure all those long bus rides in the minors.
 

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Most thought he would take the Bear money and then stick it to them and go pro in baseball. If he turned down one million, which has not been proven, then rest assured he got Whitehead's deal and may be dumb enough to take it. He has a future in baseball for sure, but playing in that Bear defense is going to make him think many times about how stupid he was.
 

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Mississippi does produce more MLB players per capita than any state. Not to get into a pissing match. I don't think it's all that crazy that maybe Golson wants to play football? If that's true he probably is doing the smart thing for himself because if his heart isn't in baseball, then he won't make it.
 

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Gholson is a 17ing idiot if he doesn't take the money. I'd say the same if he had signed with us.
 
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Todd4State said:
Mississippi does produce more MLB players per capita than any state. Not to get into a pissing match. I don't think it's all that crazy that maybe Golson wants to play football? If that's true he probably is doing the smart thing for himself because if his heart isn't in baseball, then he won't make it.
One question.....tell me the last MS kid that was a position player who signed out of HS and played in the big leagues? And, I would like to see where you got MS produces more ML'ers per capita, because I highly doubt that to be the case.
 

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Don't know if he's the most recent.

I used google.com. But you can push the links. We're third, so Todd was WAY off.

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Dawgbreeze said:
Most thought he would take the Bear money and then stick it to them and go pro in baseball. If he turned down one million, which has not been proven, then rest assured he got Whitehead's deal and may be dumb enough to take it. He has a future in baseball for sure, but playing in that Bear defense is going to make him think many times about how stupid he was.
You are insufferable.

We cheat, you guys don't. That's pretty much the gist of most of your post. How have you managed to survive here?
 

8dog

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regardless, they drafted him in the 8th round so I guess they don't care that much about being from MS.
 

inforeb

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...surprised as well. Note that this is different than the numberof Mississippians in MLB who sign out of high school. But one factor that makes sense is that there are a lot of major leaguers from Latin America and the Caribbean, so since our state's population is about 1/100 of the USA, it may be plausible.

Current native Mississippians off the top of my head in MLB include: Mitch Moreland, Paul Maholm, Seth Smith, Matt Tolbert, Roy Oswalt, Craig Tatum, Bill Hall (currently out, but soon to be back in), Eli Whiteside andJulio Borbon (just sent down). Off this list, only Hallplayed no college or JUCO baseball. I'm sure there are others, and this list shifts b/c of call-ups, demotions, etc.
 

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...commisioned some actuarials to come up with a break-even point for early-round high school baseball draftees to demand vs. a good-sized % baseball scholarship offer at a Top 30 baseball university. Their consensus: $1.4 million.

The key finding was that many of these high school signees can sign for MORE money in three years, with much of their college education behind them, with all the advantages of being in college vs. low-level minors, and the greater likelihood of a long, fruitful major league career for the college-prepared player vs. a high school signee. They cited the shift in MLB personnel offices to trusting college players more due to improved instruction and competition in college baseball since the 1980's.
 
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independencebowlmainstay said:
Todd4State said:
Mississippi does produce more MLB players per capita than any state. Not to get into a pissing match. I don't think it's all that crazy that maybe Golson wants to play football? If that's true he probably is doing the smart thing for himself because if his heart isn't in baseball, then he won't make it.
One question.....tell me the last MS kid that was a position player who signed out of HS and played in the big leagues? And, I would like to see where you got MS produces more ML'ers per capita, because I highly doubt that to be the case.

that came straight from HS. And one of them didn't even go to HS in MS:

Dmitri Young
John Lindsey
Joey Gathright
Adrian Brown
Walter Young

http://www.baseball-alman...lace.php?loc=Mississippi
 

fishwater99

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It happens with minor league players all the time. You can't turn down that kind of money if you get the chance, unless you come from a wealthy family...
 

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For one thing, not many players get more than $1.4M even after 3 years of college. But even if they did, the risk is huge. Sure some might sign for more, but others will get offered much less. Not a top round pick, but look at Jaron Shepherd. Drafted in the 17th round out of HS, then dropped in JUCO and finally wasn't even drafted this year. In his case, he wouldn't have gotten enough in bonus if he'd signed out of HS, but for $1M, you'd better take the money now because it might not be there 3 years down the road.
 

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...high school players use figures from $1M to 1.5M when they put out word of their signability. It is traceable to this study and its use by college baseball recruiters.</p>
 

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olemissbydamn said:
Dawgbreeze said:
Most thought he would take the Bear money and then stick it to them and go pro in baseball. If he turned down one million, which has not been proven, then rest assured he got Whitehead's deal and may be dumb enough to take it. He has a future in baseball for sure, but playing in that Bear defense is going to make him think many times about how stupid he was.
You are insufferable.

We cheat, you guys don't. That's pretty much the gist of most of your post. How have you managed to survive here?

It has nothing to do with whether MSU cheats or not, we do know we got off him when the heppin began because most folks knew he would probably go pro in baseball, and yes, I will stick by my post that if he turns down one million or more, there is a lot of hepping going on. He could take the baseball money, try it, and then if he doesn't progress, come back and play college football. Happens all the time. Couldn't care less because he is not going to make or break this Bear team any time soon. The defense is going to be bad and anybody who doesn't have red and blue glasses on, knows it. Just be thankful for the hepping CJ got or the defense would have been abysmal..
 

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That number doesn't factor in the risk of injury or the risk of college ball showing that your stuff isn't very good. I'm not doubting the numbers, but those numbers can only factor in "success stories" - not all the guys who have gambled and lost.<div>
</div><div>That said, if the guy wants to have some fun in college, more power to him. As a business decision, it seems like a bad idea, but life ain't all about business.</div>
 

patdog

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when he's talking about what it will take to sign him. That can change the closer you get to the deadline though. All I'm saying is if you turn down a $1M bonus, you're taking a huge risk. After tax, that's about $500K. You can be well on your way towards being set for life with a $500K head start. Did the study mention the number of players who turned down $1M and then weren't drafted later, or were drafted in a much lower round?