The Rose Bowl is dead. Humanity will soon follow

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The Rose Bowl game, an annual sports spectacle embodying cherished California conceptions of beauty and inclusion, is dead.

It was 121 years old.

The cause of death was our winner-take-all culture.

In Pasadena, your columnist’s hometown, city officials remained in denial, claiming that the Rose Bowl was very much alive. After all, the old stadium town is still called the “Rose Bowl” and will host college football playoffs in the future.

But the Rose Bowl itself — a postseason football game pitting top university teams from the West (Pac-12) and East (Big Ten) — is no more. Ever-changing California has lost a reassuring New Year’s tradition.

Once considered cutting-edge — the game was the first sporting event broadcast on transcontinental radio — the Rose Bowl represented values so old-fashioned that they now seem foreign in our angry age.

Today, Americans are bitterly divided by politics, region, and identity. Our business and government systems spread division through competitions that identify one winner, making everyone else a loser.

The Rose Bowl incubated a different tradition — of college football bowl games that brought together Americans from different regions. This bowl system, headlined by the Rose Bowl, produced many winners, rather than just one. Champions of the Rose Bowl, the Sugar Bowl, and the Orange Bowl could each claim a share of a mythical national championship.

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The Rose Bowl game, an annual sports spectacle embodying cherished California conceptions of beauty and inclusion, is dead.

It was 121 years old.

The cause of death was our winner-take-all culture.

In Pasadena, your columnist’s hometown, city officials remained in denial, claiming that the Rose Bowl was very much alive. After all, the old stadium town is still called the “Rose Bowl” and will host college football playoffs in the future.

But the Rose Bowl itself — a postseason football game pitting top university teams from the West (Pac-12) and East (Big Ten) — is no more. Ever-changing California has lost a reassuring New Year’s tradition.

Once considered cutting-edge — the game was the first sporting event broadcast on transcontinental radio — the Rose Bowl represented values so old-fashioned that they now seem foreign in our angry age.

Today, Americans are bitterly divided by politics, region, and identity. Our business and government systems spread division through competitions that identify one winner, making everyone else a loser.

The Rose Bowl incubated a different tradition — of college football bowl games that brought together Americans from different regions. This bowl system, headlined by the Rose Bowl, produced many winners, rather than just one. Champions of the Rose Bowl, the Sugar Bowl, and the Orange Bowl could each claim a share of a mythical national championship.

more: The Rose Bowl is dead. Humanity will soon follow (yahoo.com)

You are realizing this just now? The Rose Bowl has taken a back seat to the CFP because of money. It has nothing to do with politics, religion, or any other socio-political factors.

This is not a bad thing. As a college football fan, I can’t wait to watch the CFP games with all that NFL talent on display. The best 4 teams took care of business during the season and will reap tremendous benefits as a result. That’s the way it should be.

No need to keep reminiscing about the old days. As the great George Allen used to say, the future is now.

CFP or bust baby!

 
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You are realizing this just now? The Rose Bowl has taken a back seat to the CFP because of money. It has nothing to do with politics, religion, or any other socio-political factors.

This is not a bad thing. As a college football fan, I can’t wait to watch the CFP games with all that NFL talent on display. The best 4 teams took care of business during the season and will reap tremendous benefits as a result. That’s the way it should be.

No need to keep reminiscing about the old days. As the great George Allen used to say, the future is now.

CFP or bust baby!

no, I realized it as soon as they started the 'playoffs"
 
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The Rose Bowl game, an annual sports spectacle embodying cherished California conceptions of beauty and inclusion, is dead.

It was 121 years old.

The cause of death was our winner-take-all culture.

In Pasadena, your columnist’s hometown, city officials remained in denial, claiming that the Rose Bowl was very much alive. After all, the old stadium town is still called the “Rose Bowl” and will host college football playoffs in the future.

But the Rose Bowl itself — a postseason football game pitting top university teams from the West (Pac-12) and East (Big Ten) — is no more. Ever-changing California has lost a reassuring New Year’s tradition.

Once considered cutting-edge — the game was the first sporting event broadcast on transcontinental radio — the Rose Bowl represented values so old-fashioned that they now seem foreign in our angry age.

Today, Americans are bitterly divided by politics, region, and identity. Our business and government systems spread division through competitions that identify one winner, making everyone else a loser.

The Rose Bowl incubated a different tradition — of college football bowl games that brought together Americans from different regions. This bowl system, headlined by the Rose Bowl, produced many winners, rather than just one. Champions of the Rose Bowl, the Sugar Bowl, and the Orange Bowl could each claim a share of a mythical national championship.

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Remember the 1995 Rose Bowl? Eff this guy and his "mythical champions".
 

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For those who wish to relive the Rose Bowl glory days the Big Ten network is replaying the win over Oregon in about an hour
 
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Funny thing growing up when we were independent 70’s through 93 I didn’t watch the rose bowl one time. It didn’t matter to most psu fans as we were in other major bowls and the big ten sucked. Then I’m 1994 when we were undefeated and would have kicked Nebraskas *** we were forced to play freaking Oregon in the rose bowl. Went to the game and parade and checked it off the list but the cloud of Nebraska beating Miami and having the idiot broadcasters proclaim Nebraska national champions no matter what happens tomorrow really made it a nothing bowl back then! We kicked the pac 12 champions *** by 20 plus points and it felt like crud knowing we would finish number 2. Just two years before we would have been free to play Nebraska.
 
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The Rose Bowl game, an annual sports spectacle embodying cherished California conceptions of beauty and inclusion, is dead.

It was 121 years old.

The cause of death was our winner-take-all culture.

In Pasadena, your columnist’s hometown, city officials remained in denial, claiming that the Rose Bowl was very much alive. After all, the old stadium town is still called the “Rose Bowl” and will host college football playoffs in the future.

But the Rose Bowl itself — a postseason football game pitting top university teams from the West (Pac-12) and East (Big Ten) — is no more. Ever-changing California has lost a reassuring New Year’s tradition.

Once considered cutting-edge — the game was the first sporting event broadcast on transcontinental radio — the Rose Bowl represented values so old-fashioned that they now seem foreign in our angry age.

Today, Americans are bitterly divided by politics, region, and identity. Our business and government systems spread division through competitions that identify one winner, making everyone else a loser.

The Rose Bowl incubated a different tradition — of college football bowl games that brought together Americans from different regions. This bowl system, headlined by the Rose Bowl, produced many winners, rather than just one. Champions of the Rose Bowl, the Sugar Bowl, and the Orange Bowl could each claim a share of a mythical national championship.

more: The Rose Bowl is dead. Humanity will soon follow (yahoo.com)
So, we're going to mark him down as someone who hates progress.

If he wants to wax nostalgic, he can walk around LA freeways holding a bouquet of roses. And then everyone is happy.
 

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So, we're going to mark him down as someone who hates progress.

If he wants to wax nostalgic, he can walk around LA freeways holding a bouquet of roses. And then everyone is happy.





I couldn't care less about the Rose Bowl, but what we have now certainly isn't "progress".
 
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Moogy

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I couldn't care less about the Rose Bowl, but what we have now certainly isn't "progress".
I mean, if you're looking at things from a student-athlete perspective, it isn't progress from the STUDENT portion of things (but most college football fans, if they were truthful, never really cared much about that, anyway ... they like 40 times, not 4.0 GPAs), but it is from the ATHLETE portion of it.

If you're looking at it from a fan perspective ... it's progress. We're moving away from the antiquated bowl setup, and moving toward the modern playoff structure almost every other sport/level of sport has implemented.

Humanity will survive more playoffs and fewer parades.
 

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I mean, if you're looking at things from a student-athlete perspective, it isn't progress from the STUDENT portion of things (but most college football fans, if they were truthful, never really cared much about that, anyway ... they like 40 times, not 4.0 GPAs), but it is from the ATHLETE portion of it.

If you're looking at it from a fan perspective ... it's progress. We're moving away from the antiquated bowl setup, and moving toward the modern playoff structure almost every other sport/level of sport has implemented.

Humanity will survive more playoffs and fewer parades.
From a football perspective, there is nothing remotely resembling “Playoffs” in anything we’ve had or are even about to change to - so imo it’s not progress if the goal is to get to a true playoff.

It’s definitely progress for all the people making money 💰 💴 💵!
 

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The playoff will involve 12 teams and i could almost guarantee it will be 16 or more within 5 years of that.

The SEC has taken the reins of CFB, they will have at least 4 or more of the 12 teams in the playoffs. So you guys getting all wet over the 4, 8, 12, team playoffs buyer beware.

The NY 6 has lost the glamor, attendance at lesser bowls is equal to mid tier conference games on Tuesday night. It's not about 4 teams, it's about a season of Bowl matchups that CFB fans looked forward to, NIL, transfers, and the NFL draft has added to the demise.
 

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The Rose Bowl game, an annual sports spectacle embodying cherished California conceptions of beauty and inclusion, is dead.

It was 121 years old.

The cause of death was our winner-take-all culture.

In Pasadena, your columnist’s hometown, city officials remained in denial, claiming that the Rose Bowl was very much alive. After all, the old stadium town is still called the “Rose Bowl” and will host college football playoffs in the future.

But the Rose Bowl itself — a postseason football game pitting top university teams from the West (Pac-12) and East (Big Ten) — is no more. Ever-changing California has lost a reassuring New Year’s tradition.

Once considered cutting-edge — the game was the first sporting event broadcast on transcontinental radio — the Rose Bowl represented values so old-fashioned that they now seem foreign in our angry age.

Today, Americans are bitterly divided by politics, region, and identity. Our business and government systems spread division through competitions that identify one winner, making everyone else a loser.

The Rose Bowl incubated a different tradition — of college football bowl games that brought together Americans from different regions. This bowl system, headlined by the Rose Bowl, produced many winners, rather than just one. Champions of the Rose Bowl, the Sugar Bowl, and the Orange Bowl could each claim a share of a mythical national championship.

more: The Rose Bowl is dead. Humanity will soon follow (yahoo.com)
Lighten up Francis
 

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From a football perspective, there is nothing remotely resembling “Playoffs” in anything we’ve had or are even about to change to - so imo it’s not progress if the goal is to get to a true playoff.

It’s definitely progress for all the people making money 💰 💴 💵!
You're trying to fight a losing semantical battle. A "playoff" need not be between only conference champs, or division champs, or any "champs," for that matter. Would I prefer that only conference winners make the playoffs? Sure. I've advocated for that in the past on here (and even going so far as limiting the number of teams in a conference, so every team in a conference can play every other team, to get a more "true" conference champ). But that doesn't mean that selecting 4, or 8, or 12 (or whatever number) teams to play each other to determine a champion isn't a "playoff." It's just not the type you want.
 

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You're trying to fight a losing semantical battle. A "playoff" need not be between only conference champs, or division champs, or any "champs," for that matter. Would I prefer that only conference winners make the playoffs? Sure. I've advocated for that in the past on here (and even going so far as limiting the number of teams in a conference, so every team in a conference can play every other team, to get a more "true" conference champ). But that doesn't mean that selecting 4, or 8, or 12 (or whatever number) teams to play each other to determine a champion isn't a "playoff." It's just not the type you want.
They can call it whatever they want - still doesn’t make it “playoffs” - it’s just another version of the beauty contest.

I get that things change and that’s fine - just don’t like the powers that be acting like they’ve figured this out - because they haven’t.
 
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