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Just wait for the Democratic convention. That will be as big of a photo op.

We have comedians everywhere.
 

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Wait, I thought we conservatives wanted our entertainers to shut up, entertain, and not bother us with their political takes? Trump is a carnival barker touring the country with his sideshow freaks. It's unbelievably sad where are and what we accept as candidates for leader of the free world, but it is worse that anyone would actually get behind this circus. I fully get the hold your nose and vote for one side or other, but I can't imagine what has to happen to be excited about this in a positive way.
 

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Wait, I thought we conservatives wanted our entertainers to shut up, entertain, and not bother us with their political takes? Trump is a carnival barker touring the country with his sideshow freaks. It's unbelievably sad where are and what we accept as candidates for leader of the free world, but it is worse that anyone would actually get behind this circus. I fully get the hold your nose and vote for one side or other, but I can't imagine what has to happen to be excited about this in a positive way.
You keep using that word. I don’t think you know what it means.
 

WilCoDawg

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Pretty sure I do. I don't think my former party knows what it means.
See, now you’re backtracking so nobody (including yourself) can keep up. Either it’s “we” and it’s not your former party or it’s “you” and it is your former party. But don’t be dense and claim to be conservative and then vote for liberal politicians who push liberal policies. That makes you…liberal.
Between this and your disappointment that a man didn’t die, you’re really struggling badly lately. Go sit down and have a cracker and Sprite.
 

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Wait, I thought we conservatives wanted our entertainers to shut up, entertain, and not bother us with their political takes? Trump is a carnival barker touring the country with his sideshow freaks. It's unbelievably sad where are and what we accept as candidates for leader of the free world, but it is worse that anyone would actually get behind this circus. I fully get the hold your nose and vote for one side or other, but I can't imagine what has to happen to be excited about this in a positive way.
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horshack.sixpack

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See, now you’re backtracking so nobody (including yourself) can keep up. Either it’s “we” and it’s not your former party or it’s “you” and it is your former party. But don’t be dense and claim to be conservative and then vote for liberal politicians who push liberal policies. That makes you…liberal.
Between this and your disappointment that a man didn’t die, you’re really struggling badly lately. Go sit down and have a cracker and Sprite.
Wow! You are indoctrinated. Do you truly believe that you have to belong to today's Republican party to be conservative? You belive Biden, a lifelong, demonstrable by voting record moderate, who is hated by the liberals is a bigger threat than a guy who tried to disrupt our electoral process?

I put country over party. Perhaps you are unaware but there are millions of republicans against trump. My opinion, along with that of these people is that Trump is unfit and a danger to our country. They know him way better than you or I.

1. His vice president, Mike Pence: “The American people deserve to know that President Trump asked me to put him over my oath to the Constitution. … Anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be president of the United States.”

2. His second attorney general, Bill Barr: “Someone who engaged in that kind of bullying about a process that is fundamental to our system and to our self-government shouldn’t be anywhere near the Oval Office.”

3. His first secretary of defense, James Mattis: “Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people – does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us.”

4. His second secretary of defense, Mark Esper: “I think he’s unfit for office. … He puts himself before country. His actions are all about him and not about the country. And then, of course, I believe he has integrity and character issues as well.”

5. His chairman of the joint chiefs, retired Gen. Mark Milley, seemed to invoke Trump: “We don’t take an oath to a wannabe dictator. We take an oath to the Constitution and we take an oath to the idea that is America – and we’re willing to die to protect it.”

6. His first secretary of state, Rex Tillerson: “(Trump’s) understanding of global events, his understanding of global history, his understanding of US history was really limited. It’s really hard to have a conversation with someone who doesn’t even understand the concept for why we’re talking about this.”

7. His first ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley: “He used to be good on foreign policy and now he has started to walk it back and get weak in the knees when it comes to Ukraine. A terrible thing happened on January 6 and he called it a beautiful day.”

8. His presidential transition vice-chairman, Chris Christie: “Someone who I would argue now is just out for himself.”

9. His second national security adviser, HR McMaster: “We saw the absence of leadership, really anti-leadership, and what that can do to our country.”

10. His third national security adviser, John Bolton: “I believe (foreign leaders) think he is a laughing fool.”

11. His second chief of staff, John Kelly: “A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law. There is nothing more that can be said. God help us.”

12. His former acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, who resigned as US special envoy to Ireland after January 6, 2021: “I quit because I think he failed at being the president when we needed him to be that.”

13. One of his many former communications directors, Anthony Scaramucci: “He is the domestic terrorist of the 21st century.”

14. Another former communications director, Stephanie Grisham: “I am terrified of him running in 2024.”

15. His secretary of education, Betsy DeVos, who resigned after January 6: “When I saw what was happening on January 6 and didn’t see the president step in and do what he could have done to turn it back or slow it down or really address the situation, it was just obvious to me that I couldn’t continue.”

16. His secretary of transportation, Elaine Chao, who resigned after January 6: “At a particular point the events were such that it was impossible for me to continue, given my personal values and my philosophy.

17. His first secretary of the Navy, Richard Spencer: “…the president has very little understanding of what it means to be in the military, to fight ethically or to be governed by a uniform set of rules and practices.”

18. His first homeland security adviser, Tom Bossert: “The President undermined American democracy baselessly for months. As a result, he’s culpable for this siege, and an utter disgrace.”

19. His former personal lawyer and fixer, Michael Cohen: “Donald’s an idiot.”

20. His White House lawyer, Ty Cobb: “Trump relentlessly puts forth claims that are not true.”

21. A former director of strategic communications, Alyssa Farah Griffin, who is now a CNN political commentator: “We can stand by the policies, but at this point we cannot stand by the man.”

22. A top aide in charge of his outreach to African Americans, Omarosa Manigault Newman: “Donald Trump, who would attack civil rights icons and professional athletes, who would go after grieving black widows, who would say there were good people on both sides, who endorsed an accused child molester; Donald Trump, and his decisions and his behavior, was harming the country. I could no longer be a part of this madness.”

23. A former deputy press secretary, Sarah Matthews, who resigned after January 6: “I thought that he did do a lot of good during his four years. I think that his actions on January 6 and the lead-up to it, the way that he’s acted in the aftermath, and his continuation of pushing this lie that the election is stolen has made him wholly unfit to hold office every again.”

24. His final chief of staff’s aide, Cassidy Hutchinson: “I think that Donald Trump is the most grave threat we will face to our democracy in our lifetime, and potentially in American history.”
 

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Wow! You are indoctrinated. Do you truly believe that you have to belong to today's Republican party to be conservative? You belive Biden, a lifelong, demonstrable by voting record moderate, who is hated by the liberals is a bigger threat than a guy who tried to disrupt our electoral process?

I put country over party. Perhaps you are unaware but there are millions of republicans against trump. My opinion, along with that of these people is that Trump is unfit and a danger to our country. They know him way better than you or I.

1. His vice president, Mike Pence: “The American people deserve to know that President Trump asked me to put him over my oath to the Constitution. … Anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be president of the United States.”

2. His second attorney general, Bill Barr: “Someone who engaged in that kind of bullying about a process that is fundamental to our system and to our self-government shouldn’t be anywhere near the Oval Office.”

3. His first secretary of defense, James Mattis: “Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people – does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us.”

4. His second secretary of defense, Mark Esper: “I think he’s unfit for office. … He puts himself before country. His actions are all about him and not about the country. And then, of course, I believe he has integrity and character issues as well.”

5. His chairman of the joint chiefs, retired Gen. Mark Milley, seemed to invoke Trump: “We don’t take an oath to a wannabe dictator. We take an oath to the Constitution and we take an oath to the idea that is America – and we’re willing to die to protect it.”

6. His first secretary of state, Rex Tillerson: “(Trump’s) understanding of global events, his understanding of global history, his understanding of US history was really limited. It’s really hard to have a conversation with someone who doesn’t even understand the concept for why we’re talking about this.”

7. His first ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley: “He used to be good on foreign policy and now he has started to walk it back and get weak in the knees when it comes to Ukraine. A terrible thing happened on January 6 and he called it a beautiful day.”

8. His presidential transition vice-chairman, Chris Christie: “Someone who I would argue now is just out for himself.”

9. His second national security adviser, HR McMaster: “We saw the absence of leadership, really anti-leadership, and what that can do to our country.”

10. His third national security adviser, John Bolton: “I believe (foreign leaders) think he is a laughing fool.”

11. His second chief of staff, John Kelly: “A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law. There is nothing more that can be said. God help us.”

12. His former acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, who resigned as US special envoy to Ireland after January 6, 2021: “I quit because I think he failed at being the president when we needed him to be that.”

13. One of his many former communications directors, Anthony Scaramucci: “He is the domestic terrorist of the 21st century.”

14. Another former communications director, Stephanie Grisham: “I am terrified of him running in 2024.”

15. His secretary of education, Betsy DeVos, who resigned after January 6: “When I saw what was happening on January 6 and didn’t see the president step in and do what he could have done to turn it back or slow it down or really address the situation, it was just obvious to me that I couldn’t continue.”

16. His secretary of transportation, Elaine Chao, who resigned after January 6: “At a particular point the events were such that it was impossible for me to continue, given my personal values and my philosophy.

17. His first secretary of the Navy, Richard Spencer: “…the president has very little understanding of what it means to be in the military, to fight ethically or to be governed by a uniform set of rules and practices.”

18. His first homeland security adviser, Tom Bossert: “The President undermined American democracy baselessly for months. As a result, he’s culpable for this siege, and an utter disgrace.”

19. His former personal lawyer and fixer, Michael Cohen: “Donald’s an idiot.”

20. His White House lawyer, Ty Cobb: “Trump relentlessly puts forth claims that are not true.”

21. A former director of strategic communications, Alyssa Farah Griffin, who is now a CNN political commentator: “We can stand by the policies, but at this point we cannot stand by the man.”

22. A top aide in charge of his outreach to African Americans, Omarosa Manigault Newman: “Donald Trump, who would attack civil rights icons and professional athletes, who would go after grieving black widows, who would say there were good people on both sides, who endorsed an accused child molester; Donald Trump, and his decisions and his behavior, was harming the country. I could no longer be a part of this madness.”

23. A former deputy press secretary, Sarah Matthews, who resigned after January 6: “I thought that he did do a lot of good during his four years. I think that his actions on January 6 and the lead-up to it, the way that he’s acted in the aftermath, and his continuation of pushing this lie that the election is stolen has made him wholly unfit to hold office every again.”

24. His final chief of staff’s aide, Cassidy Hutchinson: “I think that Donald Trump is the most grave threat we will face to our democracy in our lifetime, and potentially in American history.”
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Now who exactly is indoctrinated?
I don’t like Trump, but I will vote for him over any liberal pushing this country further into the abyss (so I’m choosing country over personality). But if you seriously think Biden (who was chosen to lead the Dems BY Dems) is hated by liberals, you are truly not worth wasting any more time on.
 

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Now who exactly is indoctrinated?
I don’t like Trump, but I will vote for him over any liberal pushing this country further into the abyss (so I’m choosing country over personality). But if you seriously think Biden (who was chosen to lead the Dems BY Dems) is hated by liberals, you are truly not worth wasting any more time on.
And I've already stated that I completely understand the person who feels that they have to hold their nose and vote for someone and can't pull the lever for a D. Because I trust what I saw on 1/6, and what all R's response was in real time, not their now walked back groveling they've done to stay relevant in a Trump regime, AND I believe the esteemed people that I referenced above who truly had only things to lose by making those statements, I cannot support someone who does not support the Constitution. I see him as a threat to our country. I would much prefer that him and his MAGA movement dissolve into irrelevance. However, I completely respect your right to vote for whomever you choose and I'll still be hanging out in this country hoping for the best regardless of who wins.
 
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I watched a bit last night. Hulk was fine. That's what the base likes and he gets those who want a President Mountain Dew Comacho type of personality. Those people vote too. Never really got the Kid Rock stuff. He just seems trashy now. But, and part of this is the neuroses of journalists who exaggerate the impact of immediate events, I'm not sure if last night was helpful at reaching moderates and independents, those key voters in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan and a couple of other important states. The press and Biden's handlers can no longer hide his serious and significant mental and physical deterioration. Trump appeared strong in comparison, especially after the assassination attempt, but last night, after a decent start, he went on to ramble incoherently for like 90 minutes. If the Dems ditch Biden and pick someone younger, look for them to perhaps say Trump is too old and incoherent to be president. Dems would be wise to pick Shapiro in Pennsylvania. I don't think Republicans win without that state and for Dems another black American would be a state governor, something they'd brag about.
 

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And I've already stated that I completely understand the person who feels that they have to hold their nose and vote for someone and can't pull the lever for a D. Because I trust what I saw on 1/6, and what all R's response was in real time, not their now walked back groveling they've done to stay relevant in a Trump regime, AND I believe the esteemed people that I referenced above who truly had only things to lose by making those statements, I cannot support someone who does not support the Constitution. I see him as a threat to our country. I would much prefer that him and his MAGA movement dissolve into irrelevance. However, I completely respect your right to vote for whomever you choose and I'll still be hanging out in this country hoping for the best regardless of who wins.
Do you have any other talking points you need to get off your chest today? You haven’t mentioned the Trump Charlottesville comment yet. Might want to get that in before the lock, Mr. Conservative.
 

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Politics in America has a few uniquely weird aspects but it's not like the rest of the world doesn't have its share of ******** and bizarre stuff. I love going to Europe and just spent weeks in France where they had a couple of impactful elections. Talking to friends and others didn't convince me that politics in Europe are just superior. They aren't and France is currently on it's 5th Republic and has had about 14 constitutions since the French Revolution. Fascism, Nazism, communism, socialism and a host of other bad ideas have come from European political life. Don't get me started on Italy, an awesome place with awesome people and a crazy as shite political culture.
 
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You were watching Northern Exposure last night also? Man, what a show - they don't make em like that any more.
 
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