those dissin' Palmeiro on the thread below pisses me off

windcrysmary

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great player for MSU... went on to do great things in MLB..I've always been proud of him and will always be proud of him...

gave lots of money to MSU... Lord knows we need it... keep it rollin' in

I hate steroid use among professional athlethes... but.. Can anyone here say they've never cheated or lied?...go ahead...cast the first stone... how many lies has the congressional panel told to the American people that rafael prolly told to them? how does his lie to them compare to theirs in regards to impacts on our daily lives?

I'm proud he's a MSU alum... I want him to remain proud of that.. those who disagree are prolly in more need of a blowjob than any white man on the planet..

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great player for MSU... went on to do great things in MLB..I've always been proud of him and will always be proud of him...

gave lots of money to MSU... Lord knows we need it... keep it rollin' in

I hate steroid use among professional athlethes... but.. Can anyone here say they've never cheated or lied?...go ahead...cast the first stone... how many lies has the congressional panel told to the American people that rafael prolly told to them? how does his lie to them compare to theirs in regards to impacts on our daily lives?

I'm proud he's a MSU alum... I want him to remain proud of that.. those who disagree are prolly in more need of a blowjob than any white man on the planet..

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I think the majority of the backlash was to his wife's comments about taking their name off the practice facility, which she later backed away from. Most people don't care that he took steroids, but they no care when individuals, great player or not, put themselves, or their former coach, above the program.
 
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Speaking from a personal perspective....RP is a good guy.

I can't say the same for WC.
 

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Well, I was pissed off because his wife came out and said that we disrespected Polk, even after all the stuff we did for him. We could have kicked his *** to the curb, but we didn't. Fact is, he already had retirement ceremonies at MSU ONE TIME before this, so if we didn't do it this time, it would have been understandable, especially with his antics. Again we took the high road. Then just because we don't hire his ***** to be the HC, "because he's a nice guy", even though they probably have never met Cohen before, because he may be a nice guy as well, this woman, who has an inflated view of her famous husband (surprise) says that they are considering taking their name off of the IPF.

The fact is, we have a guy who used steroids on one of our buildings on campus. As much as I like Palmeiro, it's not a good thing. It makes it look like we condone cheating, (and for the record I do, as long as we win and don't get caught). I hate it for Palmeiro. Despite the fact that it doesn't look good, I still don't have a big problem with his name being up there. However, if he is going to all of a sudden act all self righteous... well, kiss my ***. Take your name off of the building, it looks better without it on there, anyway.
 

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I will not try to bend the truth. I was at MSU the first year that Raffy and Will were there.....Will is an ***. An admitted ***. One of the most cocky and despisable ***** that I have ever met. I thought that Raffy was the quiet kinda hero with a damn-near perfect swing....oh, it was soooo pretty.

Then they got to the league I kept hearing things. Will was the same ole ***-orifice.....but Raffy....there was some weird **** going on....some very "black" stuff. I just ignored it. It couldn't be true.

Then there was that beat-down that Will gave Raffy in Will's own driveway? In Texas? WTF? How did that come about? I thought that "mouthy" Will had started that one. Uhhh uhhh. Very Black Stuff.

Talked with a wife of a player in the AL.....friend of mine (and a very respectable woman.) The MLB wives knew ALLLL ABOUT Raffy. Okay, in the league, there is always some trash to talk, but this was different. VERY different...all the way to a group of wives approaching an uninvolved MALE to intervene. Didn't slow him down a bit.

Swing sure looked great.....and he looked VERY convincing on televison .... denying that steroids were a part of his repertoire.

We know where that ended up.... and I still hear there is some very "black" stuff associated with our latest bldg builder.

I'm just not sure where to place this post from his "wife." It does not pass the smell test.

Ask around.
 

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Can anyone here say they've never cheated or lied?...
Of course nobody can. However, I can say concerning my JOB I have never cheated or lied. For his job as a professional baseball player, Palmeroid fraudulently enhanced his on the field performance, thus making him more attractive to employers and earning more money for himself.

So, yes, I can say honestly that I've never cheated my employer for financial gain. For those of us in the real world, that would land us some deserved jail time.
 

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For his job as a professional baseball player, Palmeroid fraudulently enhanced his on the field performance,........

So did every other ******* in MLB.
 

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All throughout his career, he took multiple steroid tests. Only one ever came back positive. That was because Miguel Tejada gave him some supplements that he didn't realize had steroids in them. Tejada admits this. Yes, it was dumb of Raffy to just blindly trust what Tejada was giving him, but it was an honest mistake.

Not only is there no way he would be dumb enough to brazenly blatantly lie in front of Congress and the country, all of his negative steroid tests show that he was not juicing.
 

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I'm not dissin' on Palmeiro or anything, but when all that steroid crap about him came out (whether true or not), MSU was one of the few people or organizations that did not disassociate with him. We kept his name on the IPF even though it could potentially look bad on our part. I got no problem with any of that. My problem is with him, if and only if, he is truly bitching about the Polk thing and wanting his name removed from the building after we stuck with him through all the steroid **** he went through. If he's gonna be like that then screw him. Take his name off the building and tell him to go <17> himself. Now if none of this is true about him being upset, then all is well, I like Raffy and I like that we have a building named after him and haven't distanced ourselves from him.
 

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QuaoarsKing said:
All throughout his career, he took multiple steroid tests. Only one ever came back positive. That was because Miguel Tejada gave him some supplements that he didn't realize had steroids in them. Tejada admits this. Yes, it was dumb of Raffy to just blindly trust what Tejada was giving him, but it was an honest mistake.

Not only is there no way he would be dumb enough to brazenly blatantly lie in front of Congress and the country, all of his negative steroid tests show that he was not juicing.

He said he took a tainted B12 shot from Tejada.. everybody in the lockerroom knows that "B12" is code for steroids.. besides, players don't just give other players shots in the ***. That **** just doesn't happen. Palmeiro lied and he got caught in his lie.</p>
 

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was that he had already been accused of steroid use through the Canseco book. Now I know that Canseco is not THE most credible guy out there, but in hindsight it looks like he was dead on with most of what he wrote. I personally don't care for Canseco but it doesn't seem like he is the type that would just out of the blue throw a totally innocent guy under the bus. I think it just boils down to that in MLB, in the 90's, almost everybody was doing something they shouldn't have been doing.
 

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How many of us HAVEN'T been in front of a Congressional Investigation, and lied under oath? We ALL do it ALL the time. Those without sin cast the first stone.
 

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ball player. I have almost every card ever made of him. I'm pissed all this happened, bc he would have hit over 600 hrs for his career. One of the sweetest swings that you will ever see.

17 anybody that disses Raffy!!!
 

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Well I haven't really followed the majors for 5 or 6 years, but I would have to go with Richard Lee as my all time favorite bulldog. He was the first baseman for my first three years at State before they broke up the old student section in Section A.
 

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Keyser Soze said:
ball player. I have almost every card ever made of him. I'm pissed all this happened, bc he would have hit over 600 hrs for his career. One of the sweetest swings that you will ever see.

17 anybody that disses Raffy!!!

</p> Your gay.
 

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This is retarded. Bill Clinton, a President of the United States lied repeatedly to congress, the nation, to his wife, to everyone and got caught red handed and no-one took his name off of anything and now he is a celebrity. Some guy that swings a bat and hits a ball is suddenly the scum of the Earth because he lied about one incident that only affected sporting events? You do all realize that adults getting payed to play games are really very unimportant. The very notion that congress wasted our money investigating this is disgusting. Freaking investigate stuff that REALLY impact our lives, congress, and just let people enjoy watching steroidal freaks do amazing things with their balls. We do it to escape reality. This country needs an enema.
 

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an idiot in my mind for 3 reasons.

1) He is a juice user. Why Raffy why? H
e had a great swing and was an above averege fielder yet he got greedy and juiced up so he could hit the long ball too.

2) He lied about using steroids. If you just tell the truth and say your sorry everything goes away. Example: Andy Pettitte. The American people love to forgive.

3) He wanted Raffo wanted to be our baseball coach. I get it, you respect Polk. I get it, you have an inflamed ego. Don't make an *** out of your self like Polk did. Stay wherever you are hiding and shut the hell up.

He has brought everything on himself and I have no mercy in my heart for a lier and a cheater. By the way your a great role model. Really.
 

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And no, he didn't take steroids tests his whole career. MLB has only been testing for steroids for about 2 or 3 years. Your boy just happened to be one of the first to get caught.
 

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Söze began his criminal career in Turkey as a low-level drug dealer. The entity that is Keyser Söze is truly born, however, when rival smugglers working for the Hungarian mob invade his house while he is away, raping his wife and holding his children hostage. When Söze arrives they kill one of the children to show him their resolve. They then threaten to kill his wife and remaining children if he does not surrender his business to them. Rather than give in to their demands, and to prevent his loved ones from having to live with the memory of what has happened, he murders his family and all but one of the Hungarians, whom he spares knowing that the survivor would tell the mafia what has transpired.
 

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<div> Söze began his criminal career in Turkey as a low-level drug dealer. The entity that is Keyser Söze is truly born, however, when rival smugglers working for the Hungarian mob invade his house while he is away, raping his wife and holding his children hostage. When Söze arrives they kill one of the children to show him their resolve. They then threaten to kill his wife and remaining children if he does not surrender his business to them. Rather than give in to their demands, and to prevent his loved ones from having to live with the memory of what has happened, he murders his family and all but one of the Hungarians, whom he spares knowing that the survivor would tell the mafia what has transpired.

I have only one question about all of this. Is that the Cowboys star, and if so are you a fan also? </div>
 
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