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For historical purposes, and to update this each year, I have to recreate a thread from the old site.

From Aug. 12, 2015:

a post on Iowa's board on the same subject for them got me thinking of how long PSU has gone, per weight, since a national championship or since an AA finish.

using the history records on the Penn State Wrestling Club's web site, below is how long it appears PSU has gone since a Championship or an AA finish at each weight class.

a clarification: weight classes have been tweaked a bit by the NCAA over the years, so some of those listed won at a weight that was very close to the weight listed, but not identical.

After 2015 Nationals

National Champ
125: Jeremy Hunter - 2000
133: Scott Lynch - 1984
141: John Hughes - 1995
149: Tank - 2012
157: Never
165: DT - 2014
174: Matt Brown - 2015
184: Ed Ruth - 2014
197: Q - 2013
285: Kerry McCoy - 1997

AAs
125: Jordan Conaway- 2015
133: Jimmy Gulibon - 2015
141: Zain Retherford - 2014
149: James English - 2014
157: Dylan Alton - 2012
165: DT - 2014
174: Matt Brown - 2015
184: Ed Ruth - 2014
197: Morgan McIntosh - 2015
285: Jimmy Lawson - 2015

Seems as though the only weight at which PSU has never had a champ was 157. DT finished 2nd in 2011, and Clint Musser finished 2nd in 1999.

133 is the weight where the longest gap is for a national champ. Since Scott Lynch's title in 1984, Cary Kolat finished 2nd in 1993 (134), and 3rd in 1994 (134), Josh Moore finished 3rd in 2003 and 2nd in 2004, and Andrew Long finished 3rd in 2011. (Jake Strayer finished 7th in 2007 and Jimmy G finished 5th in 2015.)

After 133, the next longest gap is 141. Since John Hughes' title in 1995, Jamarr Billman finished 5th in 1998 (142), Scott Moore finished 4th in 2003, Tank finished 8th in 2009, and the ZainTrain finished 5th in 2014.

The only other weight at which PSU hasn't had a champion this century is 285. Since McCoy's title in 1997, Pat Cummins finished 4th in 2003 and 2nd in 2004, Aaron Anspach finished 2nd in 2007, and LawDog finished 6th in 2015.

My apologies if any of the above data is incorrect. The PSWC records list DT as taking 1st place in 2012 at 157, so it would not surprise me if there are a few other mistakes in their records. I did not attempt to verify each of their records for names/weights I used in the above info.

It is interesting to project whether any of the gaps can be eliminated by the current team.

If Nolf can stay at 157 for a few years, he has a good shot at ending the 157 drought. If he can't hold the weight, Cenzo Joseph seems like the most likely candidate to end the drought, and/or Gary Dinmore might progress to that level as well.

At 133, Jimmy G may have had a shot at ending the drought if he had stayed at 133. Conaway should be in contention this year, though he doesn't enter the year as a top 1-2 guy at the weight. (Beyond that, it's probably dependent upon this year's and next year's recruiting class.)

If the ZainTrain had stayed at 141, I think he would have ended the drought at 141. It seems likely that he'll be at 149 this year. Whether Jimmy can up his game a bit at a new weight remains to be seen.

Lastly, at 285, we'll have to see how Nevills performs. He looked promising last year before he injured his foot. He should be among the elite guys at 285 over the next 4 years (assuming he stays healthy).

Anyway, it was fun to put this together. If there are corrections to be made, please let me know.

Enjoy
 

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Roar initiated a discussion about old weight classes/current weight classes, and posted this on Aug. 13, 2015

Modification to Tom’s earlier (and very excellent!!) analysis. This one combines the weight groups differently, as a 7-pound addition was made to all classes (except 285, of course) in 1998-99. Some of the data shows historical info that goes back to 1970. I did not go back farther than this, as this is the first year of 118-126-134-142-150-158-167-177-190-285. Enjoy the slight twist to Tom’s original post.

National Champ
118/125: Jeremy Hunter - 2000
126/133: Sanshiro Abe – 1996 (different than Tom’s)
134/141: Scott Lynch – 1984 (different than Tom’s)
142/149: Tank - 2012
150/157: Never
158/165: DT - 2014
167/174: Matt Brown - 2015
177/184: Ed Ruth - 2014
190/197: Q - 2013
285: Kerry McCoy - 1997

AAs
118/125: Jordan Conaway- 2015
126/133: Jimmy Gulibon - 2015
134/141: Zain Retherford - 2014
142/149: James English - 2014
150/157: Dylan Alton - 2012
158/165: DT - 2014
167/174: Matt Brown - 2015
177/184: Ed Ruth - 2014
190/197: Morgan McIntosh - 2015
285: Jimmy Lawson - 2015

Only 2 “National Champ” changes and no AA changes. At the 2nd weight class (126/133) it’s now Sanshiro Abe, and at the 3rd weight class (134/141) it’s now Scott Lynch, who was Tom’s “133” pounder.

More fun data, again since 1970, and grouped as noted above…

National Champs (since 1970), by Weight Class
118/125: 4
126/133: 3
134/141: 1
142/149: 2
150/157: 0
158/165: 2
167/174: 5
177/184: 3
190/197: 2
285: 2

AAs (since 1970), by Weight Class
118/125: 17
126/133: 19
134/141: 9
142/149: 14
150/157: 15
158/165: 14
167/174: 19
177/184: 15
190/197: 11
285: 14

AA’s by NCAA Placement (since 1970)
1st Place: 24
2nd Place: 27
3rd Place: 24
4th Place: 17
5th Place: 16
6th Place: 14
7th Place: 14
8th Place: 11
…Keeping in mind that only 6 places were awarded AA status from 1970 through 1978.

Other data…

** The highest number of AA’s from a particular weight class and placement combination was 7 wrestlers placed 3rd at weight class 126/133 (the "mode", for you statistics junkies).

** In the following years, we had 5 or more AA’s;
1987: 8
1984: 7
1992: 7
2014: 7
1991: 6
2012: 6
1993: 5
1998: 5
2011: 5
2013: 5
2015: 5

** And, by decade, we had the following number of AA’s:
1970’s: 15
1980’s: 36
1990’s: 42
2000’s: 23
2010’s: 31 (with 4 years yet to go!!)
 

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I updated the thread on Sep. 10, 2016 with:

I see this was never updated after last fall. Here is the same analysis (I switched from my initial posting to Roar's analysis), updated to reflect the 2016 finishes.

National Champ
118/125: Nico Megaludis - 2016
126/133: Sanshiro Abe – 1996
134/141: Scott Lynch – 1984
142/149: Zain Retherford - 2016
150/157: Never
158/165: DT - 2014
167/174: Matt Brown - 2015
177/184: Ed Ruth - 2014
190/197: Q - 2013
285: Kerry McCoy - 1997

AAs
118/125: Nico Megaludis - 2016
126/133: Jordan Conaway - 2016
134/141: Zain Retherford - 2014
142/149: Zain Retherford - 2016
150/157: Jason Nolf - 2016
158/165: DT - 2014
167/174: Bo Nickal - 2016
177/184: Ed Ruth - 2014
190/197: Morgan McIntosh - 2016
285: Jimmy Lawson - 2015

The only weight class PSU has yet to have a National Champ at is 150/157, and they came so, so close last year, with Nolf losing in the finals to IMar.
 

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I updated the thread on Mar 23, 2017 with this:

Hmm, looks as though I need to update this after the 2017 Nationals. Here is the same analysis (I switched from my initial posting to Roar's analysis), updated to reflect the 2017 finishes.


National Champ
118/125: Nico Megaludis - 2016
126/133: Sanshiro Abe – 1996
134/141: Scott Lynch – 1984
142/149: Zain Retherford - 2017
150/157: Jason Nolf - 2017
158/165: Vincenzo Joseph - 2017
167/174: Mark Hall - 2017
177/184: Bo Nickal - 2017
190/197: Q - 2013
285: Kerry McCoy - 1997

AAs
118/125: Nico Megaludis - 2016
126/133: Jordan Conaway - 2016
134/141: Zain Retherford - 2014
142/149: Zain Retherford - 2017
150/157: Jason Nolf - 2017
158/165: Vincenzo Joseph - 2017
167/174: Mark Hall - 2017
177/184: Bo Nickal - 2017
190/197: Morgan McIntosh - 2016
285: Nick Nevills - 2017

With Nolf's win this year, there is no longer any weight at which PSU has not had a National Champion.

At this point, 141 is the weight class at which PSU has gone the longest since their last National Champion. That's followed by 133, and then 285. Another way of stating that is that PSU has had a National Champ at 7 of the 10 weight classes in the last four years.

As for AAs, 141 is the only weight class at which PSU has not had an AA in the past two years.
 

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I updated the thread on March 20, 2018 with:

Time for my annual update of this thread, after the 2018 Nationals.

National Champ
118/125: Nico Megaludis - 2016
126/133: Sanshiro Abe – 1996
134/141: Scott Lynch – 1984
142/149: Zain Retherford - 2018
150/157: Jason Nolf - 2018
158/165: Vincenzo Joseph - 2018
167/174: Mark Hall - 2017
177/184: Bo Nickal - 2018
190/197: Q - 2013
285: Kerry McCoy - 1997

AAs
118/125: Nico Megaludis - 2016
126/133: Jordan Conaway - 2016
134/141: Nick Lee - 2018
142/149: Zain Retherford - 2018
150/157: Jason Nolf - 2018
158/165: Vincenzo Joseph - 2018
167/174: Mark Hall - 2018
177/184: Bo Nickal - 2018
190/197: Shakur Rasheed - 2018
285: Nick Nevills - 2018

It looks as though PSU is living up to NoVa's expectations ("In fact, some years we will have an AA at every weight within the last 2 years.").

At this point, the longest drought for a National Champion is at 141, with the 2nd longest drought at 133, and the 3rd longest at 285. PSU has had a National Champion at 7 of the 10 weight classes within the last 5 seasons, and at 6 of the 10 weight classes within the last 3 seasons. :D
 

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I updated the thread on March 24, 2019 with:

Time for my annual update of this thread, after the 2019 Nationals.

National Champ
118/125: Nico Megaludis - 2016
126/133: Sanshiro Abe – 1996
134/141: Scott Lynch – 1984
142/149: Zain Retherford - 2018
150/157: Jason Nolf - 2019
158/165: Vincenzo Joseph - 2018
167/174: Mark Hall - 2017
177/184: Bo Nickal - 2018
190/197: Bo Nickal - 2019
285: Anthony Cassar - 2019

AAs
118/125: Nico Megaludis - 2016
126/133: Roman Bravo-Young - 2019
134/141: Nick Lee - 2019
142/149: Zain Retherford - 2018
150/157: Jason Nolf - 2019
158/165: Vincenzo Joseph - 2019
167/174: Mark Hall - 2019
177/184: Bo Nickal - 2018
190/197: Bo Nickal - 2019
285: Anthony Cassar - 2019

At this point, the longest drought for a National Champion is at 141, with the 2nd longest drought at 133. Those are the only two weighs where PSU has not had a National Champion in the Cael Sanderson era. PSU has had a National Champion at 6 of the 10 weight classes within the last 2 seasons, 7 of the 10 weight classes within the last 3 seasons, and at 8 of the 10 weight classes within the last 4 seasons.
 
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My most recent update was on March 20, 2021, with this:

I know you guys look forward to this each year. Alas, due to the pandemic, you've had to wait two years for me to add the latest info. ;)

Time for my annual update of this thread, after the 2021 Nationals.

National Champ
118/125: Nico Megaludis - 2016
126/133: Roman Bravo-Young – 2021
134/141: Nick Lee – 2021
142/149: Zain Retherford - 2018
150/157: Jason Nolf - 2019
158/165: Vincenzo Joseph - 2018
167/174: Carter Starocci - 2021
177/184: Aaron Brooks - 2021
190/197: Bo Nickal - 2019
285: Anthony Cassar - 2019

AAs
118/125: Nico Megaludis - 2016
126/133: Roman Bravo-Young - 2021
134/141: Nick Lee - 2021
142/149: Zain Retherford - 2018
150/157: Jason Nolf - 2019
158/165: Vincenzo Joseph - 2020*
167/174: Carter Stracci - 2021
177/184: Aaron Brooks - 2021
190/197: Michael Beard - 2021
285: Greg Kerkvliet - 2021

After the 2019 NCAAs, the longest droughts since a National Champion were at 141 and 133. Those were also the only two weights where PSU had not had a National Champion under Cael Sanderson. Both of those "issues" were addressed this year. At this point, the longest drought for a National Champion is at 125 (5 years), with the 2nd longest drought a tie between 149 and 165 (3 years). PSU has had a National Champion at 7 of the 10 weight classes within the last two NCAAs, and 9 of the 10 weight classes within the last three NCAAs.

* = AAs in 2020 were not based on Nationals (as it was not held), but instead on wrestlers' body of work during the season and in their conference championships
 

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If you look at the current weight classes (since 1998-99) you get:

125/2: Nico (1), Hunter (1)
133/1: RBY (1)
141/1: Nick Lee (1)
149/4: Zain (3), Molinaro (1),
157/3: Nolf (3)
165/4: Taylor (2), Joseph (2)
174/5: Ruth (1), Pritzlaff (1), Brown (1), Hall (1), Starocci (1)
184/6: Q (1), Ruth (2), Bo (2), Brooks (1)
197/3: Davis (1), Q (1), Bo (1)
285/1: Cassar (1)

Total Champs - 30

Had a slow start at the current weight but of the 30 champs 27 came in the last 10 years.
 

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My favorite thread to update, even if I had to move all the data over to this site to continue the thread.

Annual Thread Update, after the 2022 Nationals:

National Champ
118/125: Nico Megaludis - 2016
126/133: Roman Bravo-Young – 2022
134/141: Nick Lee – 2022
142/149: Zain Retherford - 2018
150/157: Jason Nolf - 2019
158/165: Vincenzo Joseph - 2018
167/174: Carter Starocci - 2022
177/184: Aaron Brooks - 2022
190/197: Max Dean - 2022
285: Anthony Cassar - 2019

AAs
118/125: Nico Megaludis - 2016
126/133: Roman Bravo-Young - 2022
134/141: Nick Lee - 2022
142/149: Zain Retherford - 2018
150/157: Jason Nolf - 2019
158/165: Vincenzo Joseph - 2020*
167/174: Carter Stracci - 2022
177/184: Aaron Brooks - 2022
190/197: Max Dean - 2022
285: Greg Kerkvliet - 2022

The longest drought for a National Champion is at 125 (6 years), with the 2nd longest drought a tie between 149 and 165 (4 years). PSU has had a National Champion at 5 of the 10 weight classes within the last two NCAAs, and 7 of the 10 weight classes within the last three NCAAs.


* = AAs in 2020 were not based on Nationals (as it was not held), but instead on wrestlers' body of work during the season and in their conference championships
 

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My favorite thread to update, even if I had to move all the data over to this site to continue the thread.

Annual Thread Update, after the 2022 Nationals:

National Champ
118/125: Nico Megaludis - 2016
126/133: Roman Bravo-Young – 2022
134/141: Nick Lee – 2022
142/149: Zain Retherford - 2018
150/157: Jason Nolf - 2019
158/165: Vincenzo Joseph - 2018
167/174: Carter Starocci - 2022
177/184: Aaron Brooks - 2022
190/197: Max Dean - 2022
285: Anthony Cassar - 2019

AAs
118/125: Nico Megaludis - 2016
126/133: Roman Bravo-Young - 2022
134/141: Nick Lee - 2022
142/149: Zain Retherford - 2018
150/157: Jason Nolf - 2019
158/165: Vincenzo Joseph - 2020*
167/174: Carter Stracci - 2022
177/184: Aaron Brooks - 2022
190/197: Max Dean - 2022
285: Greg Kerkvliet - 2022

The longest drought for a National Champion is at 125 (6 years), with the 2nd longest drought a tie between 149 and 165 (4 years). PSU has had a National Champion at 5 of the 10 weight classes within the last two NCAAs, and 7 of the 10 weight classes within the last three NCAAs.


* = AAs in 2020 were not based on Nationals (as it was not held), but instead on wrestlers' body of work during the season and in their conference championships
Great stuff Tom. It makes me laugh when people say we don’t develop lightweights. Let’s be real; we develop all weights. If you want to be a national champ, PSU is the place to be regardless of your weight class.
 

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If you look at the current weight classes (since 1998-99) you get:

125/2: Nico (1), Hunter (1)
133/1: RBY (1)
141/1: Nick Lee (1)
149/4: Zain (3), Molinaro (1),
157/3: Nolf (3)
165/4: Taylor (2), Joseph (2)
174/5: Ruth (1), Pritzlaff (1), Brown (1), Hall (1), Starocci (1)
184/6: Q (1), Ruth (2), Bo (2), Brooks (1)
197/3: Davis (1), Q (1), Bo (1)
285/1: Cassar (1)

Total Champs - 30

Had a slow start at the current weight but of the 30 champs 27 came in the last 10 years.
Thanks for sharing this data - good stuff
 

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As the 2023 Nationals ended earlier tonight, it's time for me to update my favorite thread.

National Champ
118/125: Nico Megaludis - 2016
126/133: Roman Bravo-Young – 2022
134/141: Nick Lee – 2022
142/149: Zain Retherford - 2018
150/157: Jason Nolf - 2019
158/165: Vincenzo Joseph - 2018
167/174: Carter Starocci - 2023
177/184: Aaron Brooks - 2023
190/197: Max Dean - 2022
285: Anthony Cassar - 2019

AAs
118/125: Nico Megaludis - 2016
126/133: Roman Bravo-Young - 2023
134/141: Beau Bartlett - 2023
142/149: Shayne Van Ness - 2023
150/157: Levi Haines - 2023
158/165: Vincenzo Joseph - 2020*
167/174: Carter Stracci - 2023
177/184: Aaron Brooks - 2023
190/197: Max Dean - 2023
285: Greg Kerkvliet - 2023

The longest drought for a National Champion is at 125 (7 years), with the 2nd longest drought a tie between 149 and 165 (5 years). PSU has had a National Champion at 5 of the 10 weight classes within the last two NCAAs, and 7 of the 10 weight classes within the last four NCAAs.

* = AAs in 2020 were not based on Nationals (as it was not held), but instead on wrestlers' body of work during the season and in their conference championships
 

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My favorite thread needs to be updated, now that the 2024 NCAA Championships have been completed.

National Champ
118/125: Nico Megaludis - 2016
126/133: Roman Bravo-Young – 2022
134/141: Nick Lee – 2022
142/149: Zain Retherford - 2018
150/157: Levi Haines - 2024
158/165: Vincenzo Joseph - 2018
167/174: Carter Starocci - 2024
177/184: Aaron Brooks - 2023
190/197: Aaron Brooks - 2024
285: Greg Kerkvliet - 2024

AAs
118/125: Nico Megaludis - 2016
126/133: Roman Bravo-Young - 2023
134/141: Beau Bartlett - 2024
142/149: Tyler Kasak - 2024
150/157: Levi Haines - 2024
158/165: Mitchell Mesenbrink - 2024
167/174: Carter Stracci - 2024
177/184: Bernie Truax - 2024
190/197: Aaron Brooks - 2024
285: Greg Kerkvliet - 2024

The longest drought for a National Champion is at 125 (8 years), with the 2nd longest drought a tie between 149 and 165 (6 years). PSU has had a National Champion at 5 of the 10 weight classes within the last two NCAAs, and 7 of the 10 weight classes within the last three NCAAs.

It seemed that this year Braeden Davis was well on his way to breaking the drought in either AAs or National Champ at 125, but he fell one match short of AAing.
 
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