To recap the Coach34 manifesto...

[Xenomorph]

Cameron Newton is a done deal and it's written in stone he will start in Maroon and White next year.

Don't be surprised if Tyler Russell transfers, as it's obvious he's not what Dan Mullen wants in a QB.

Dylan Favre will never take a meaningful snap in his career at MSU.

Kodi Augustus should be

Oh... Our 12-2 basketball team is coached by an absolute buffoon and Kodi Augustus can do no wrong.

 

[Xenomorph]

Cameron Newton is a done deal and it's written in stone he will start in Maroon and White next year.

Don't be surprised if Tyler Russell transfers, as it's obvious he's not what Dan Mullen wants in a QB.

Dylan Favre will never take a meaningful snap in his career at MSU.

Kodi Augustus should be

Oh... Our 12-2 basketball team is coached by an absolute buffoon and Kodi Augustus can do no wrong.

 

[Coach34]

Cameron Newton is a done deal and it's written in stone he will start in Maroon and White next year. - Until Auburn bought him

Don't be surprised if Tyler Russell transfers, as it's obvious he's not what Dan Mullen wants in a QB. - this was contingent on Newton signing

Dylan Favre will never take a meaningful snap in his career at MSU. - I stand by that one

Kodi Augustus should be - ???? starting? You damn right he should be

Oh... Our 12-2 basketball team is coached by an absolute buffoon and Kodi Augustus can do no wrong.- How many top 50 wins do we have this year so far? Lose to 7-6 Rider?? Are you really going to act like we have played Kentucky's schedule?

 

[wchsdawg]

Don't understand why you will not say you're wrong and stupid.

 

[KurtRambis4]

I'm with coach on newton. He was ours until Auburn came in at the last minute. Now on the Russell transferng, nobody had a clue about that and that was just a pure guess on his (coach) part. I also agree with him on Favre. If he and I (and whoever else feels this way) are wrong on this, Mullen has failed miserably.

 

[Dawg in a pile]

You forgot the part about Stegall being second string in the spring with Russell behind him as 3rd. That's how awful Russell is according to coach34. Remember, Russell threw an interception in practice. At the same time, he was telling us how much better Lee was than Relf, while Lee was averaging about 2 interceptions and at least one fumble per game.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

nm

 

[thunderclap]

that Mullen has not failed miserably, but has probably done something quite right. Why the hell is everyone acting like signing Favre is the beginning of more three win seasons?

 

[KurtRambis4]

think what Coach was saying was that Lee gave us the best chance to win (at that time) over Relf. Now, Mullen and crew obviously felt the same way because how else would you explain them starting Lee over and over and over (and continuing to play him)? Also, from all accounts, the coaches were not comfortable with playing Russell this year. Mullen stated many times that he was not going to redshirt anyone if he felt they gave us the best chance to win. Thus, with Mullen not ever going to Russell does one not thing that is because Mullen didn't feel Russell was ready (any more than Lee, at least). Now I'm not saying Russell sucks by any means, but I just don't think he was ready this year. If Mullen's worth half of what we give him credit for, I trust his decision over message board hero and his (Mullen) opinion was that Lee was who he had to go with this year.

 

[KurtRambis4]

ever takes meaningful snaps, we are in deep ****. Look the kid had a great career in high school but I just don't see this kid being a SEC QB. It is what it is. His lack of offers (and those that did) are what I'm basing this on. Now if the kid turns out to be a SEC QB, great. I just don't see it happening. I hope I'm wrong, and if I am I'll admit it.

 

[Dawg in a pile]

I know what he was saying, but I think you missed his posts every single week after Lee just screwed us out of another game, continuing to say how great Lee was and how bad Relf was. In the end, he was simply wrong as usual. That was my point in this thread. He and HD had this argument before the season also. As with Russell, I didn't say anything about whether or not he was ready this season. I was adding to the original post that coach34 said Stegall would be ahead of Russell in the Spring, because Russell was so bad that he threw an interception in practice. This doesn't have anything to do with with whether or not Russell should have redshirted or played this past season.

 

[thunderclap]

but I think to proclaim that we are in "deep ****" if he ever takes meaningful snaps assumes that Mullen has no idea how to develop QBs, Favre actually has no talent, and that it is impossible to be bigger and better when you are 21 than when you are 18. All of which, if they are true, then we are in deep ****. But I think it's a lot to assume in January 2010.

 

[Coach34]

I know what he was saying, but I think you missed his posts every single week after Lee just screwed us out of another game, continuing to say how great Lee was and how bad Relf was. In the end, he was simply wrong as usual. That was my point in this thread. He and HD had this argument before the season also. As with Russell, I didn't say anything about whether or not he was ready this season. I was adding to the original post that coach34 said Stegall would be ahead of Russell in the Spring, because Russell was so bad that he threw an interception in practice. This doesn't have anything to do with with whether or not Russell should have redshirted or played this past season.

Coach34- Lee should have been the QB
Idiot Dawg In A Pile- Relf should be
Dan Mullen- Lee makes 12 starts

Coach34- correct
Dawg In A Pile- wrong </p>

 

[Coach34]

I know what he was saying, but I think you missed his posts every single week after Lee just screwed us out of another game, continuing to say how great Lee was and how bad Relf was. In the end, he was simply wrong as usual. That was my point in this thread. He and HD had this argument before the season also. As with Russell, I didn't say anything about whether or not he was ready this season. I was adding to the original post that coach34 said Stegall would be ahead of Russell in the Spring, because Russell was so bad that he threw an interception in practice. This doesn't have anything to do with with whether or not Russell should have redshirted or played this past season.

in relation to Newton being signed, forcing a battle for back-up spots and the direction of our offense. Newton did not sign, so all those discussions are rendered moot you idiot. With what we have now, we will have to adjust our offense

 

[Dawg in a pile]

I know what he was saying, but I think you missed his posts every single week after Lee just screwed us out of another game, continuing to say how great Lee was and how bad Relf was. In the end, he was simply wrong as usual. That was my point in this thread. He and HD had this argument before the season also. As with Russell, I didn't say anything about whether or not he was ready this season. I was adding to the original post that coach34 said Stegall would be ahead of Russell in the Spring, because Russell was so bad that he threw an interception in practice. This doesn't have anything to do with with whether or not Russell should have redshirted or played this past season.

Coach34- Lee should have been the QB
Idiot Dawg In A Pile- Relf should be
Dan Mullen- Lee makes 12 starts

Coach34- correct
Dawg In A Pile- wrong</p>

I guaran-damn-tee you that Mullen wishes he could have a redo this past season. We should have played in a bowl game last week and we didn't because of one reason, Tyson Lee. And my point was never really about who should be starting. It was the fact that every week, right after Lee just threw a minimum of 2 interceptions and at least one fumble per game, that you would be on this board telling us how great Lee was, and how bad Relf was. You coming here defending his performance each week is what makes you an idiot.

 

[Curly Bill]

Some of you are just trying to be cool by calling Coach out. Pretty sad.

 

[HD6]

Don't test me.

 

[KurtRambis4]

can look at it two ways (if Favre is our starter, ever) in my mind.

1) Favre got coached up and Mullen is in fact a badass QB coach

2) We are in deep **** because we can't recruit anyone more talented than Favre, which does not mean Mullen isn't a good qb coach but that we just can't get the talent at QB here

I currently am looking at it as #2 (keep in mind, this is based on Favre being our starter at any point in the future barring injuries). The reason I am looking at is as number is based soley on his offers AND the fact that he was about our 10th QB on our list for this year. Again, I hope I'm wrong but that's just the way things look right now to me. I'm not looking at it so much as Dan sucks if Favre starts, but that we just obviously can't get the QB talent we need.

 

[Coach34]

</p>

 

[Coach34]

you will ever find where I said he was a great QB

 

[KurtRambis4]

I guaran-damn-tee you that Mullen wishes he could have a redo this past season.

are you saying Mullen screwed it up so bad that he had no idea who to play at the QB spot?

 

[TR.sixpack]

nm

 

[SLUdog]

or Dylan Favre might overachieve. It happens.

 

[SLUdog]

but there's no doubt that Tyson Lee (& c-usa) refs cost us a bowl. We could have been 7-5 (4-4) very easily. And that's a good enough record to play in the Cotton Bowl these days.

 

[TaleofTwoDogs]

"2) We are in deep **** because we can't recruit anyone <span style="text-decoration:line-through">more talented</span> taller than Favre, which does not mean Mullen isn't a good qb coach but that we just can't get the talent at QB here"

I would think that a kid that generated over 6000+ yards of offense and 81 TD in a season just might have some talent. The kid can play football, can he play tall-ball in the SEC remains to be seen. Let's hope he's the second coming of Doug Flutie.

 

[KurtRambis4]

I guess what I meant to write was "SEC talent."</p>

 

[rugbdawg]

nm.

 

[615dawg]

along with CB9. If Sidney is declared ineligible, CB9 will be tough to beat, even by Coach.

 

[Coach34]

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[HD6]

*

 

[Coach34]

and dont get me started on all the other things I have said in the past to make others look dumb around here

 

[HD6]

Goat Holder is the undisputed champion.

 

[ripleybulldog]

I think Coach is smarter than most people here. I also had a good source telling us we had Newton. i agree with lee been the best option at QB did you listen to what Relf said when he threw the TD to Bumphis on the Egg Bowl. Reft cant even throw a screen pass. I cant remember one game lee lost for us. We lost as a team. We had a lot of fumbles in the beggining also gave up the big play every time on 3rd and long all year and it doesn't help that the ref's screwed us a couple of games. Also had a little bad luck i dont know if you guys remember our fake punt against houston when we were getting momentum and the guy tripped 4 yards short from the first down, i cant remember who it was.

 

[8dog]

j

 

[Hot Rock]

It was Robert Elliot tripping on his own two feet. At least, that is what I remember.

 

[MSUCostanza]

Did they both get a 5th year? Dixon was clearly better, and it really wasn't close. Are you going to suddenly decide that the NFL counts now?

If you would just admit when you are wrong about something, you probably wouldn't catch half the **** you catch on here.

 

[KurtRambis4]

back you on this one. There's no doubt who the better back was.

 

[Coach34]

back you on this one. There's no doubt who the better back was.

in 2009, I agree...2008? Not so much...

Scott averaged over 5 yards a carry and scored 35 TD's...while barely playing his 1st two years
Dixon was a solid, durable back for his whole career...averaged just over 4 yards a carry with 46 TD's in twice as many carries as Scott</p>

Watching them both play? Cant really see much of a difference</p>

Both good players with good college careers...</p>

 

[KurtRambis4]

thing you have to take into account (major factor) was one player was playing under the greatest coach ever at their school while one was playing under the worst coach in college history.