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I dont' really know why. Maybe I don't believe in Richt, but they just haven't proven that much to me. As for the rest, I really haven't paid enough attention yet.
I think Illinois is a little high and I think Auburn is a little high. Auburn will be good and maybe get that high or higher, but at 10 with a new, young QB and system, is a bit high. Georgia will be tough this year. Im glad we don't have them and have to punt from the 30 again. We might not even make it to the 30.
believe in them. 17 starters return from the best team in the SEC last year. At LSU, Cocktail Party, At Auburn all late in the year. A slip with any of those could cost them.
As for Richt, he has either the highest or second highest winning % in the conference. The other one is Meyer, but Richt has had far more seasons.
As for Richt, he has either the highest or second highest winning % in the conference. The other one is Meyer, but Richt has had far more seasons.
No they wont suck. They'll win 9 maybe 10 games. They have a new QB and a new offensive coordinator. Plus the SEC isn't too forgiving. They will probably beat us in Starkville this year, no doubt. But we beat them at Auburn with a 5th year senior QB playing for them that had won damn near as many games in his career as anyone in recent SEC history if I remember correctly. Don't forget that. Fluke or not, they lined up and beat the **** out of Auburn on the line. Auburn's line coach said so after the game.
That's why ****** teams like Baylor and Texas Tech can score points with it. Remember UK and Tim Couch? Our lines ALWAYS kicked the **** out of them up and down the field. I think we only beat them once when he was there. If you remember, Auburn was successful against us when Burns was in the game running out of the shotgun. Unless we come up with some offensive tricks against Auburn, expect a rape. By the way, didn't that new QB(I know Cox played some too) and new offensive coordinator put up 31 in the bowl with 2 WEEKS of prep?
How did USC not win it last year? Easy, they had a lot of injuries early in the year that cost them a couple games. By the end of the season, they were playing better football than almost anyone else. Same for Georgia, though their 2 losses were more due to youth at certain positions.
I think USC and UGA were the two best teams in the country last year, yet they lost a couple game early keeping them from getting the chance at the title game. That's another reason why college football needs a playoff. Just because you slip up in a game early in the season either due to injury or due to breaking in some young players, it doesn't mean you aren't the best team in the country. Put them on the field and let them play it out in a playoff.
Was Florida's 2006 basketball team the best team in the country all season during the regular season? No, they didn't even win the SEC, but when they finally came together and started playing to their potential, there wasn't a team in the country that could touch them.
I think USC and UGA were the two best teams in the country last year, yet they lost a couple game early keeping them from getting the chance at the title game. That's another reason why college football needs a playoff. Just because you slip up in a game early in the season either due to injury or due to breaking in some young players, it doesn't mean you aren't the best team in the country. Put them on the field and let them play it out in a playoff.
Was Florida's 2006 basketball team the best team in the country all season during the regular season? No, they didn't even win the SEC, but when they finally came together and started playing to their potential, there wasn't a team in the country that could touch them.
USC lost to Stanford last year. Stanford. They were every bit as bad as Ole Miss. I don't give a **** about injuries or whatever. They lost to *#!*@+% Stanford. They had no business playing for the NC and I don't care to hear people argue that they were the best team in the country. Stanford.
Booty broke his finger during the game but didn't ask out of the game. Not to mention that they had already lost 4/5 of their starting OL to injury. I don't care how well you recruit. When you have one regular playing on your OL and your starting QB is playing with a broken finger on his throwing hand (I think he threw 4 interceptions that day), you can be beaten on a given Saturday. Hell, the rebs were within 10 points of LSU in the 4th quarter.. twice.
You call for it every year. The only thing more consistent are the excuses when the start losing. I will maintain my prediction that Spurrier never goes to the SECCG again.
but you know damn good and well I didnt say they were going last year. I did predict them 2nd behind Georgia. SC and Fla have the best schedules, Georgia has the best team. Tenn has a rough schedule too. My predictions will be forthcoming in August as usual.
Wow, you're predicting a school that has a football history nearly as bad as ours cant unseat Georgia, Fla, and Tenn to go to Atlanta. Great job Nostradamus
Wow, you're predicting a school that has a football history nearly as bad as ours cant unseat Georgia, Fla, and Tenn to go to Atlanta. Great job Nostradamus
when they first put him in there. At halftime we adjusted and shut him and Auburn down. One could argue that had they gone back to Cox earlier they might have won as he lead them right down the field to the 10 yard line on the final drive before our defense made their stand.
Auburn will likely beat us this year. It's a tough bill to beat Tubberville two years in a row. However, I don't expect a blowout as you do. They have an inexperienced QB and don't have Groves anymore. I expect the game to be hard fought.</p>
Auburn will likely beat us this year. It's a tough bill to beat Tubberville two years in a row. However, I don't expect a blowout as you do. They have an inexperienced QB and don't have Groves anymore. I expect the game to be hard fought.</p>
Exactly. You break Flynn's finger and have him play the entire game. Then take out a bunch of LSU's O-line, and we might actually pull off the upset.
I'm 100% for a playoff, because I just don't think it makes sense to exclude a team that went 10-2 with some early losses due to injuries, youth, whatever reason.
I don't think LSU was the best team in the country last year. I think both USC and UGA were better football teams than them by the end of the year, and an argument could be made that Oklahoma was better at the end of the season.
However, LSU got to play a virtual home game against an Ohio State team that was only there due to the fortune of being able to play in a weak Big 10 conference last year, and they got to claim a title by beating an Ohio State team that I don't really think was even one of the Top 5 teams in the country.
A 2 team playoff is the dumbest system on the planet. You have to at least get it to a minimum of 8 teams before you can really put any credence behind the system.
Here is another point against the current system: Going into the last week of the season, had West Virginia not fallen asleep at the wheel against a bad Pitt team or had Missouri been able to pull out a win against OU, LSU wouldn't have even had a chance to play in the title game. Nothing on their resume would've changed, but the outcomes of a game they didn't even play in would've kept them from winning the MNC. Their team would've been no different than the team that won the MNC game, but they wouldn't have had a shot. Makes no sense to me.
At the very least, you have to have an 8 team playoff with 6 auto bids to the major conferences and 2 at large bids given to the next 2 highest BCS teams, with no automatic qualifier for Notre Dame unless they earn one of the 2 at large spots like everyone else.
If you did that last year, this is what the bracket would've looked like:
1 Ohio State
8 West Virginia
4 Oklahoma
5 Georgia (at large)
2 LSU
7 USC
3 Va. Tech
6 Missouri (at large)
You can't tell me that a bracket like that a system like that wouldn't make more sense than what we have now.
I'm 100% for a playoff, because I just don't think it makes sense to exclude a team that went 10-2 with some early losses due to injuries, youth, whatever reason.
I don't think LSU was the best team in the country last year. I think both USC and UGA were better football teams than them by the end of the year, and an argument could be made that Oklahoma was better at the end of the season.
However, LSU got to play a virtual home game against an Ohio State team that was only there due to the fortune of being able to play in a weak Big 10 conference last year, and they got to claim a title by beating an Ohio State team that I don't really think was even one of the Top 5 teams in the country.
A 2 team playoff is the dumbest system on the planet. You have to at least get it to a minimum of 8 teams before you can really put any credence behind the system.
Here is another point against the current system: Going into the last week of the season, had West Virginia not fallen asleep at the wheel against a bad Pitt team or had Missouri been able to pull out a win against OU, LSU wouldn't have even had a chance to play in the title game. Nothing on their resume would've changed, but the outcomes of a game they didn't even play in would've kept them from winning the MNC. Their team would've been no different than the team that won the MNC game, but they wouldn't have had a shot. Makes no sense to me.
At the very least, you have to have an 8 team playoff with 6 auto bids to the major conferences and 2 at large bids given to the next 2 highest BCS teams, with no automatic qualifier for Notre Dame unless they earn one of the 2 at large spots like everyone else.
If you did that last year, this is what the bracket would've looked like:
1 Ohio State
8 West Virginia
4 Oklahoma
5 Georgia (at large)
2 LSU
7 USC
3 Va. Tech
6 Missouri (at large)
You can't tell me that a bracket like that a system like that wouldn't make more sense than what we have now.
Coach34 said:
Wow, you're on record predicting that a school that has a football history nearly as bad as ours WILL IN FACT unseat UGA, UF and UT, yet you are making fun of me for saying it won't happen???? I don't know about you, but I thought the purpose of predicting things was to get it right. The official prediction (too bad Ronny is not still here to post it for us) was within four-five years Stevie would have them in Atlanta, so you still have a shot.
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Coming into the bowl season, they had a very legit argument. They had beaten the crap out of a very good Missouri team twice. They lost two road games by 7 points or less, both in conference. They were playing good football at the end of the season and had at least an outside shot at getting in the title game.
They proved they weren't the best by getting crushed by WVU, but at the time of the bowl selection, they were right there.
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TEN WHO ALMOST MADE IT
Boston College (11-3): QB Matt Ryan is not the only hole in the Eagles' lineup.
Boise State (10-3): The Broncos return RB Ian Johnson, but they need a new QB.
East Carolina (8-5): Pirates have to replace first-round draft choice Chris Johnson at RB.
Kentucky (8-5): Wildcats lost too much firepower on offense.
Michigan (9-4): It's going to be an ugly transition year under Rich Rodriguez.
<font color="#FF0000">Miss. State (8-5): Bulldogs still need some offensive firepower.
</font>North Carolina (4-8): Tar Heels return 18 starters under second-year coach Butch Davis.
Rutgers (8-5): Scarlet Knights have to prove they can replace RB Ray Rice.
South Florida (9-4): Bulls return QB Matt Grothe, but defense took a hit.
Virginia (9-4): Losing QB Jameel Sewell will be huge for Cavaliers.
http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/cfb/entries/2008/05/index.html</p>
TEN WHO ALMOST MADE IT
Boston College (11-3): QB Matt Ryan is not the only hole in the Eagles' lineup.
Boise State (10-3): The Broncos return RB Ian Johnson, but they need a new QB.
East Carolina (8-5): Pirates have to replace first-round draft choice Chris Johnson at RB.
Kentucky (8-5): Wildcats lost too much firepower on offense.
Michigan (9-4): It's going to be an ugly transition year under Rich Rodriguez.
<font color="#FF0000">Miss. State (8-5): Bulldogs still need some offensive firepower.
</font>North Carolina (4-8): Tar Heels return 18 starters under second-year coach Butch Davis.
Rutgers (8-5): Scarlet Knights have to prove they can replace RB Ray Rice.
South Florida (9-4): Bulls return QB Matt Grothe, but defense took a hit.
Virginia (9-4): Losing QB Jameel Sewell will be huge for Cavaliers.
http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/cfb/entries/2008/05/index.html</p>
This is not a good point. The only way to avoid this situation is to allow everyone into a playoff. Otherwise, the last team wouldn't have gotten in if some other team hadn't lost as much. In 2005, if the Chiefs had won 1 more game, the Steelers wouldn't have made the playoffs. So, should that fact invalidate their Super Bowl championship?RebelBruiser said:
VegasDawg13 said:
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That's a decent comparison. However, when you're talking about a playoff that includes 12 teams out of 32, that's much different than a playoff that includes 2 out of 120. The 13th team in the NFL has little argument that they should be in over someone else, because they missed out on their chance on the field.
In a 2 team playoff, there is a chance that there will be teams like Auburn 2004 that don't get a shot no matter if they win every game they play.
And then you get into the argument of teams that both lost 1 game. How do you pick one over another unless they've played head to head, which normally isn't the case. And in some instances, even if that is the case, the team that lost the head to head game can get picked over the other team (Florida State over Miami in 2000).
Bottom line, "national championships" have no validity in my eyes when the playoff only includes 2 of 120 teams. I think you'd have to include at least 8 teams to give the championship any validity, and my personal opinion is that it still won't be a true championship without a 16 team playoff including all conference champions.
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