Ukraine grain, global commodities markets, interesting stuff

[jethreauxdawg]

EU warns against unilateral steps after Poland, Hungary ban Ukrainian grain

After Russia's invasion blocked some Black Sea ports, large quantities of Ukrainian grain, which is cheaper than that produced in the EU, ended up in central European states due to logistical bottlenecks, hitting prices and sales for local farmers.

www.reuters.com

Curious to see how this all plays out. Tough spot for the elected party in Poland.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

EU warns against unilateral steps after Poland, Hungary ban Ukrainian grain

After Russia's invasion blocked some Black Sea ports, large quantities of Ukrainian grain, which is cheaper than that produced in the EU, ended up in central European states due to logistical bottlenecks, hitting prices and sales for local farmers.

www.reuters.com

Curious to see how this all plays out. Tough spot for the elected party in Poland.

Here’s a little more in depth review. Those Central European countries have a right to gripe about their markets being flooded with grain. The rest of the EU wagging their finger at them doesn’t help things when their farmers aren’t suffering from depressed grain prices. If this happened to France or Germany they would be having a hissy fit.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

There’s a hole in Europe’s grain supply where all the money goes…

My guess is that Uncle Sam (who knew his last name was Stone?) is going to be the morphine that eases the EU’s pain…

 

[mstateglfr]

Why did the grain stay in Poland? I get that grain got 'stuck' there initially, but why did it then stay there? Why couldnt it continue on to other EU countries?
That seems odd. Not nefarious or conspiracy odd, just odd.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Why did the grain stay in Poland? I get that grain got 'stuck' there initially, but why did it then stay there? Why couldnt it continue on to other EU countries?
That seems odd. Not nefarious or conspiracy odd, just odd.

Logistics.

 

[Cantdoitsal]

After we've spent around $100B, Russia eventually wins. The reporting has been biased as Ukraininan success has been exaggerated.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

After we've spent around $100B, Russia eventually wins. The reporting has been biased as Ukraininan success has been exaggerated.

It's well past $100B now.

By comparison, the US spent at least $800B in Afghanistan and might have spent as much as if not more than $2T.

 

[Maroon'12]

After we've spent around $100B, Russia eventually wins. The reporting has been biased as Ukraininan success has been exaggerated.

Very very wrong on so many levels it is insulting.

Putin’s Russia has already lost unless they full throttle commit. A full mobilization must be had & we saw what happen the last two times the Russian government tried. Protesting & many leaving the country. A good percentage of their best fighters got wiped in the initial invasion. Then you got the most embarrassing modern calamity we have seen in quite some time. Their miles & miles tank column stalled because of logistical problems of fuel. A country you are next door to and invading. lol what a joke, the USA is the best war machine that has ever been spent on & what makes us the best is logistics. Winning conventional(army vs. army) fighting too, we haven’t been stopped since, you can argue Korea. Even in Vietnam we won more engagements then not… Anyway, after that, we suck at occupying & our politicians usually mess it all up.

Moving on, the USA military budget is designed to defeat Russia & China. It is doing it beautifully at the moment in Ukraine. As our weapons are mostly slapping the weapons of Russia & yes, China.

China will get there’s too if they **** on another democracy like Russia has. You see, Chinese naval & air power is a joke compared to NATO powers. Hell the USA & France alone will win that. In conventional army to army modern fighting, no army has ever overcome the advantage of not having air & sea supremacy. We will have that in the first week. All China has is an army when SHTF. Modern bombs can negate that advantage too.

Russia isn’t going to win, that ship has sailed. If you are wanting us to stop supporting them. Congratulations, you are ignorant of our real enemy since 1945. If this was the 1950s, I could report you for being a communist sympathizer & you could kiss your real job good bye, just for starters. If this were the 80s, Ronald Reagan is living his best life, in a heaven set dream. He spent & wasted megamillions of tax dollars trying to defeat the USSR, in which Putin is trying to restore. You also get a medal from Putin’s Russia. Putin needs you desperately to write to your local official & cry about getting your money spent against a regime trying to tear down a democracy by force.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

Very very wrong on so many levels it is insulting.

Putin’s Russia has already lost unless they full throttle commit. A full mobilization must be had & we saw what happen the last two times the Russian government tried. Protesting & many leaving the country. A good percentage of their best fighters got wiped in the initial invasion. Then you got the most embarrassing modern calamity we have seen in quite some time. Their miles & miles tank column stalled because of logistical problems of fuel. A country you are next door to and invading. lol what a joke, the USA is the best war machine that has ever been spent on & what makes us the best is logistics. Winning conventional(army vs. army) fighting too, we haven’t been stopped since, you can argue Korea. Even in Vietnam we won more engagements then not… Anyway, after that, we suck at occupying & our politicians usually mess it all up.

Moving on, the USA military budget is designed to defeat Russia & China. It is doing it beautifully at the moment in Ukraine. As our weapons are mostly slapping the weapons of Russia & yes, China.

China will get there’s too if they **** on another democracy like Russia has. You see, Chinese naval & air power is a joke compared to NATO powers. Hell the USA & France alone will win that. In conventional army to army modern fighting, no army has ever overcome the advantage of not having air & sea supremacy. We will have that in the first week. All China has is an army when SHTF. Modern bombs can negate that advantage too.

Russia isn’t going to win, that ship has sailed. If you are wanting us to stop supporting them. Congratulations, you are ignorant of our real enemy since 1945. If this was the 1950s, I could report you for being a communist sympathizer & you could kiss your real job good bye, just for starters. If this were the 80s, Ronald Reagan is living his best life, in a heaven set dream. He spent & wasted megamillions of tax dollars trying to defeat the USSR, in which Putin is trying to restore. You also get a medal from Putin’s Russia. Putin needs you desperately to write to your local official & cry about getting your money spent against a regime trying to tear down a democracy by force.

So, you’re a big fan of Putin?

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

Very very wrong on so many levels it is insulting.

Putin’s Russia has already lost unless they full throttle commit. A full mobilization must be had & we saw what happen the last two times the Russian government tried. Protesting & many leaving the country. A good percentage of their best fighters got wiped in the initial invasion. Then you got the most embarrassing modern calamity we have seen in quite some time. Their miles & miles tank column stalled because of logistical problems of fuel. A country you are next door to and invading. lol what a joke, the USA is the best war machine that has ever been spent on & what makes us the best is logistics. Winning conventional(army vs. army) fighting too, we haven’t been stopped since, you can argue Korea. Even in Vietnam we won more engagements then not… Anyway, after that, we suck at occupying & our politicians usually mess it all up.

Moving on, the USA military budget is designed to defeat Russia & China. It is doing it beautifully at the moment in Ukraine. As our weapons are mostly slapping the weapons of Russia & yes, China.

China will get there’s too if they **** on another democracy like Russia has. You see, Chinese naval & air power is a joke compared to NATO powers. Hell the USA & France alone will win that. In conventional army to army modern fighting, no army has ever overcome the advantage of not having air & sea supremacy. We will have that in the first week. All China has is an army when SHTF. Modern bombs can negate that advantage too.

Russia isn’t going to win, that ship has sailed. If you are wanting us to stop supporting them. Congratulations, you are ignorant of our real enemy since 1945. If this was the 1950s, I could report you for being a communist sympathizer & you could kiss your real job good bye, just for starters. If this were the 80s, Ronald Reagan is living his best life, in a heaven set dream. He spent & wasted megamillions of tax dollars trying to defeat the USSR, in which Putin is trying to restore. You also get a medal from Putin’s Russia. Putin needs you desperately to write to your local official & cry about getting your money spent against a regime trying to tear down a democracy by force.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Very very wrong on so many levels it is insulting.

Putin’s Russia has already lost unless they full throttle commit. A full mobilization must be had & we saw what happen the last two times the Russian government tried. Protesting & many leaving the country. A good percentage of their best fighters got wiped in the initial invasion. Then you got the most embarrassing modern calamity we have seen in quite some time. Their miles & miles tank column stalled because of logistical problems of fuel. A country you are next door to and invading. lol what a joke, the USA is the best war machine that has ever been spent on & what makes us the best is logistics. Winning conventional(army vs. army) fighting too, we haven’t been stopped since, you can argue Korea. Even in Vietnam we won more engagements then not… Anyway, after that, we suck at occupying & our politicians usually mess it all up.

Moving on, the USA military budget is designed to defeat Russia & China. It is doing it beautifully at the moment in Ukraine. As our weapons are mostly slapping the weapons of Russia & yes, China.

China will get there’s too if they **** on another democracy like Russia has. You see, Chinese naval & air power is a joke compared to NATO powers. Hell the USA & France alone will win that. In conventional army to army modern fighting, no army has ever overcome the advantage of not having air & sea supremacy. We will have that in the first week. All China has is an army when SHTF. Modern bombs can negate that advantage too.

Russia isn’t going to win, that ship has sailed. If you are wanting us to stop supporting them. Congratulations, you are ignorant of our real enemy since 1945. If this was the 1950s, I could report you for being a communist sympathizer & you could kiss your real job good bye, just for starters. If this were the 80s, Ronald Reagan is living his best life, in a heaven set dream. He spent & wasted megamillions of tax dollars trying to defeat the USSR, in which Putin is trying to restore. You also get a medal from Putin’s Russia. Putin needs you desperately to write to your local official & cry about getting your money spent against a regime trying to tear down a democracy by force.

And here I thought last month that GloryDawg was Ziskey.

Maybe y'all are cousins...

 

[Cantdoitsal]

Very very wrong on so many levels it is insulting.

Putin’s Russia has already lost unless they full throttle commit. A full mobilization must be had & we saw what happen the last two times the Russian government tried. Protesting & many leaving the country. A good percentage of their best fighters got wiped in the initial invasion. Then you got the most embarrassing modern calamity we have seen in quite some time. Their miles & miles tank column stalled because of logistical problems of fuel. A country you are next door to and invading. lol what a joke, the USA is the best war machine that has ever been spent on & what makes us the best is logistics. Winning conventional(army vs. army) fighting too, we haven’t been stopped since, you can argue Korea. Even in Vietnam we won more engagements then not… Anyway, after that, we suck at occupying & our politicians usually mess it all up.

Moving on, the USA military budget is designed to defeat Russia & China. It is doing it beautifully at the moment in Ukraine. As our weapons are mostly slapping the weapons of Russia & yes, China.

China will get there’s too if they **** on another democracy like Russia has. You see, Chinese naval & air power is a joke compared to NATO powers. Hell the USA & France alone will win that. In conventional army to army modern fighting, no army has ever overcome the advantage of not having air & sea supremacy. We will have that in the first week. All China has is an army when SHTF. Modern bombs can negate that advantage too.

Russia isn’t going to win, that ship has sailed. If you are wanting us to stop supporting them. Congratulations, you are ignorant of our real enemy since 1945. If this was the 1950s, I could report you for being a communist sympathizer & you could kiss your real job good bye, just for starters. If this were the 80s, Ronald Reagan is living his best life, in a heaven set dream. He spent & wasted megamillions of tax dollars trying to defeat the USSR, in which Putin is trying to restore. You also get a medal from Putin’s Russia. Putin needs you desperately to write to your local official & cry about getting your money spent against a regime trying to tear down a democracy by force.

I'm just going off leaked intel showing things are not going as well for Ukraine as what's being reported by The Pentagon. I don't believe Russia's Toast, that's all. They have Chi-Com help and Putin's bringing in tons of cash daily thru high oil prices. I'm thinking China's waiting on the Ukrainian deal to finish then focus on Taiwan. Good Luck Relying on accurate info from those in charge these days. I have no love for Russia and believe Satan's had a penthouse suite in Moscow since 1917. Based on history, I can certainly understand Ukrainians not wanting to re-join Russia considering the famine genocide Stalin laid on them which is why Ukrainians cheered Nazis at the beginning of Barbarosa, And of course there's other reasons relating to soverignty. But Ukraine is corrupt run by George Soros Puppets. I have resevations about the operation and now we know the current Admin has been lying about having U.S. Boots on the ground over there. And All U.S. Citizens are paying for this currently by inflationary spending required to continue on. Also consider a former VP told Ukraine if they didn't fire the investigator who had the goods on Burisma Oil Company then they wouldn't get the $1B dollar loan they needed. The VP's Son was hauling in $85K monthly on Burisma's Board despite having no energy experience yet a sitting POTUS gets impeached because he made a phone call about it with no documented quid pro quo. And since Zelensky's a George Soros Puppet, we know why he didn't look into it but still got our money.

 

[mstateglfr]

But Ukraine is corrupt run by George Soros Puppets.
...
And since Zelensky's a George Soros Puppet, we know why he didn't look into it but still got our money.

You should charge Soros for living rent free in your head. He can afford it.

 

[DawgBoneSlam]

I'm just going off leaked intel showing things are not going as well for Ukraine as what's being reported by The Pentagon. I don't believe Russia's Toast, that's all. They have Chi-Com help and Putin's bringing in tons of cash daily thru high oil prices. I'm thinking China's waiting on the Ukrainian deal to finish then focus on Taiwan. Good Luck Relying on accurate info from those in charge these days. I have no love for Russia and believe Satan's had a penthouse suite in Moscow since 1917. Based on history, I can certainnly understand Ukrainians not wanting to re-join Russia considering the famine genocide Stalin laid on them which is why Ukrainians cheered Nazis at the beginning of Barbarosa, And of course there's other reasons relating to soverignty. But Ukraine is corrupt run by George Soros Puppets. I have resevations about the operation and now we know the current Admin has been lying about having U.S. Boots on the ground over there. And All U.S. Citizens are paying for this currently by inflationary spending required to continue on. Also consider a former VP told Ukraine if they didn't fire the investigator who had the goods on Burisma Oil Company then they wouldn't get the $1B dollar loan they needed. The VP's Son was hauling in $85K monthly on Burisma's Board despite having no energy experience yet a sitting POTUS gets impeached because he made a phone call about it with no documented quid pro quo. And since Zelensky's a George Soros Puppet, we know why he didn't look into it but he still got our money.

A Ukrainian counter offensive has started and is on going as we speak.

Ukraine has took back most of the land by the initial invasion. Russian invaded with a force of 300k+, Ukraine mobilized all men willing and close to 6-700k fighters and counting. Obviously that difference has shown. Russia has thrown in more troops as well.

Russia is resorting to t55s and old world war 2 tanks & equipment they are taking out of museums and using for battle. This is a clear sign of many bad things for them. Along with them having to buy & borrow weapons from: China, Iran & reportedly North Korea. If you can’t figure that out, as they say, lead a horse to water etc.

We officially unofficially heh the irony have boots on the ground. You think those American weapons in English writing just Slavic themselves?

Lastly, Russia & Ukraine are one of the most corrupt, if not the most corrupt places in the world. You got the point on this. If you know your Soviet government workings history of average daily life. I don’t have to say more. Don’t have a party card? You wait years to get a new car while the party card member gets it in nice time etc etc. Chernobyl disaster only touched on it a little on HBO. The state must always be right & never look weak. Hello, China smh

Whatever shady stuff went down with the current POTUS or past. The current Ukraine government, with the help we are giving them just to be its own sovereign nation. They won’t do anything done ill in the past or current present. Think of it like the good doctor that treated JFK for free. Our country saved the good doctor from the Nazis.

Crying about supporting Ukraine, in which Putin’s regime has declared war on our West by the way. The money is a joke, we all know it was just going to be spent somewhere else that was/is in many opinions, pointless.

 

[Cantdoitsal]

You should charge Soros for living rent free in your head. He can afford it.

You should ask families who have lost members via murder aided by George Soros DA's.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Please don’t ruin this thread.

 

[MrKotter]

Very very wrong on so many levels it is insulting.

Putin’s Russia has already lost unless they full throttle commit. A full mobilization must be had & we saw what happen the last two times the Russian government tried. Protesting & many leaving the country. A good percentage of their best fighters got wiped in the initial invasion. Then you got the most embarrassing modern calamity we have seen in quite some time. Their miles & miles tank column stalled because of logistical problems of fuel. A country you are next door to and invading. lol what a joke, the USA is the best war machine that has ever been spent on & what makes us the best is logistics. Winning conventional(army vs. army) fighting too, we haven’t been stopped since, you can argue Korea. Even in Vietnam we won more engagements then not… Anyway, after that, we suck at occupying & our politicians usually mess it all up.

Moving on, the USA military budget is designed to defeat Russia & China. It is doing it beautifully at the moment in Ukraine. As our weapons are mostly slapping the weapons of Russia & yes, China.

China will get there’s too if they **** on another democracy like Russia has. You see, Chinese naval & air power is a joke compared to NATO powers. Hell the USA & France alone will win that. In conventional army to army modern fighting, no army has ever overcome the advantage of not having air & sea supremacy. We will have that in the first week. All China has is an army when SHTF. Modern bombs can negate that advantage too.

Russia isn’t going to win, that ship has sailed. If you are wanting us to stop supporting them. Congratulations, you are ignorant of our real enemy since 1945. If this was the 1950s, I could report you for being a communist sympathizer & you could kiss your real job good bye, just for starters. If this were the 80s, Ronald Reagan is living his best life, in a heaven set dream. He spent & wasted megamillions of tax dollars trying to defeat the USSR, in which Putin is trying to restore. You also get a medal from Putin’s Russia. Putin needs you desperately to write to your local official & cry about getting your money spent against a regime trying to tear down a democracy by force.

Stop believing every word your TV tells you. It lies. This "war" has a lot less to do with Putin than you think. Judging from your post you clearly have not been paying attention. A war with CCP backed Russia would not go well for our decimated military. You're a fool if you want this to escalate further. It has been nothing but senseless loss of life while lining the pockets of war mongeriing criminals

 

[DawgBoneSlam]

Stop believing every word your TV tells you. It lies. This "war" has a lot less to do with Putin than you think. Judging from your post you clearly have not been paying attention. A war with CCP backed Russia would not go well for our decimated military. You're a fool if you want this to escalate further. It has been nothing but senseless loss of life while lining the pockets of war mongeriing criminals

Putin grabbed Crimea in 2014 and then launched another invasion calling it a special military operation in 2022. It is all Putin, his and her allies are relevant but it is all him. So I don’t understand your take.

if you believe our military is devastated at the moment. Someone has done a number on you and I applaud it lol. Remember, this current regime in Russia needs you thinking exactly like this, so us & our allies will let them eat Ukraine unflurried. It shall not be. Poland has stated they will go into Ukraine with their military if it looks like Ukraine is about to fall. We of course will join that adventure. So, if you believe Poland, when they roll in there, Ukraine has pretty much officially been spent. It is no secret Ukraine is losing its great fighters but Russia has lost way more. We are talking a 50-70k Ukraine loss versus 150k-200k Russian losses atm.

The reality of our military is we have a low supply in our munitions. Dangerously low, we are making the South Koreans give Ukraine 5 million missiles etc we have let them “borrow”. The reproduction is being ramped up both by our country and NATO and the EU. Money is being made hand over fist, as is tradition.

EDIT: Russia just put out a new fresh draft order hours ago. All going to plan comrades

 

[mstateglfr]

Please don’t ruin this thread.

With all the crazy thats been posted in this thread so far, by multiple people, I really hope your comment isnt directed at me for making a joke.

 

[yazoolegend]

Stop believing every word your TV tells you. It lies. This "war" has a lot less to do with Putin than you think. Judging from your post you clearly have not been paying attention. A war with CCP backed Russia would not go well for our decimated military. You're a fool if you want this to escalate further. It has been nothing but senseless loss of life while lining the pockets of war mongeriing criminals

"stop believing every word your TV tells you" as he spouts off info he got from TV (prob Tucker)

 

[jethreauxdawg]

So anyway… I wonder what this excess grain will do to world markets. Any chance it give us some relief at the grocery store by this time next year? I’m also curious to see what, if anything the EU will do to Poland for breaking the rules.

 

[MrKotter]

"stop believing every word your TV tells you" as he spouts off info he got from TV (prob Tucker)

Don't watch Tucker, champ. 17ing pitiful attempt at an insult too. You woke idiots suck at everything

 

[Cantdoitsal]

A Ukrainian counter offensive has started and is on going as we speak.

Ukraine has took back most of the land by the initial invasion. Russian invaded with a force of 300k+, Ukraine mobilized all men willing and close to 6-700k fighters and counting. Obviously that difference has shown. Russia has thrown in more troops as well.

Russia is resorting to t55s and old world war 2 tanks & equipment they are taking out of museums and using for battle. This is a clear sign of many bad things for them. Along with them having to buy & borrow weapons from: China, Iran & reportedly North Korea. If you can’t figure that out, as they say, lead a horse to water etc.

We officially unofficially heh the irony have boots on the ground. You think those American weapons in English writing just Slavic themselves?

Lastly, Russia & Ukraine are one of the most corrupt, if not the most corrupt places in the world. You got the point on this. If you know your Soviet government workings history of average daily life. I don’t have to say more. Don’t have a party card? You wait years to get a new car while the party card member gets it in nice time etc etc. Chernobyl disaster only touched on it a little on HBO. The state must always be right & never look weak. Hello, China smh

Whatever shady stuff went down with the current POTUS or past. The current Ukraine government, with the help we are giving them just to be its own sovereign nation. They won’t do anything done ill in the past or current present. Think of it like the good doctor that treated JFK for free. Our country saved the good doctor from the Nazis.

Crying about supporting Ukraine, in which Putin’s regime has declared war on our West by the way. The money is a joke, we all know it was just going to be spent somewhere else that was/is in many opinions, pointless.

The money we're spending is no joke. Unfortunately folks like Putin think the collapse of the USSR was the worst thing that happened in the 20th Century and we're seeing them act accordingly. I just say be wary of "info" you get these days. I in no way approve of Putin's invasion but this war is complex for us and hopefully our actions or not acting is the best end result for The West.

 

[MrKotter]

Putin grabbed Crimea in 2014 and then launched another invasion calling it a special military operation in 2022. It is all Putin, his and her allies are relevant but it is all him. So I don’t understand your take.

if you believe our military is devastated at the moment. Someone has done a number on you and I applaud it lol. Remember, this current regime in Russia needs you thinking exactly like this, so us & our allies will let them eat Ukraine unflurried. It shall not be. Poland has stated they will go into Ukraine with their military if it looks like Ukraine is about to fall. We of course will join that adventure. So, if you believe Poland, when they roll in there, Ukraine has pretty much officially been spent. It is no secret Ukraine is losing its great fighters but Russia has lost way more. We are talking a 50-70k Ukraine loss versus 150k-200k Russian losses atm.

The reality of our military is we have a low supply in our munitions. Dangerously low, we are making the South Koreans give Ukraine 5 million missiles etc we have let them “borrow”. The reproduction is being ramped up both by our country and NATO and the EU. Money is being made hand over fist, as is tradition.

EDIT: Russia just put out a new fresh draft order hours ago. All going to plan comrades

Good grief, your TV "has done a number on you". Russia doesn't have me thinking anything and to even say such is idiotic. I believe what I'm told by current and former military I know. Not some idiot who will say anything to be on TV. If you don't think this administration has a hell of a lot to do with the Russian instigation you're a damn fool.
As for out military being weak, check out how we do in simulations with other countries. We get our *** kicked.

 

[Beretta.sixpack]

the Ukrainian grain is having issues for two reasons:

1. The EU waived customs duties and import quotas to help the Ag sector stay running in Ukraine.....now that cheap grain is undercutting their local farmers, so there is a temporary ban until June 30 (i think that is the date)

2. Some countries in the EU are banning Ukrainian grain due to pesticides being found in the grain that is banned in the EU ....Slovakia is one of the countries....can't remember the others off the top of my head.

 

[StumpNewGround]

All grains down across the board today. Hard. Cotton getting absolutely killed as well. But cost of production for the US farmer hasn’t budged an inch. We’re ****ed.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

With all the crazy thats been posted in this thread so far, by multiple people, I really hope your comment isnt directed at me for making a joke.

It wasn’t so chill the 17 out. Not everything is about you.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

All grains down across the board today. Hard. Cotton getting absolutely killed as well. But cost of production for the US farmer hasn’t budged an inch. We’re ****ed.

Grains have been going up and down for a while. It’s not anything to really get wound up about yet.

 

[StumpNewGround]

Grains have been going up and down for a while. It’s not anything to really get wound up about yet.

It is if “your partner” balked when Nov beans were 14 with a plus 30 basis.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

It is if “your partner” balked when Nov beans were 14 with a plus 30 basis.

Ouch. We are 50 percent sold at 14 +.30

I wouldn’t sweat soybeans though. Domestic soybean supplies are extremely tight

 

[L4Dawg]

If Russia wins this, esp if the win it easily, it's going to be a very dangerous world for the West going forward.

 

[mstateglfr]

It wasn’t so chill the 17 out. Not everything is about you.

Ice cold here. I wasnt up in arms in that post.
I genuinely cant tell who is responding to whom in this format unless a quote is attached. And since you often claim I am ruining threads by disagreeing with crazyass comments made by others, I decided to say I hope your post wasnt directed at me.

I understand not everything is about me and didnt claim it was about me. I said I hope it isnt about me.

No idea who it was about though, and maybe they dont know either.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Ice cold here. I wasnt up in arms in that post.
I genuinely cant tell who is responding to whom in this format unless a quote is attached. And since you often claim I am ruining threads by disagreeing with crazyass comments made by others, I decided to say I hope your post wasnt directed at me.

I understand not everything is about me and didnt claim it was about me. I said I hope it isnt about me.

No idea who it was about though, and maybe they dont know either.

I miss threaded view too.