department to get some new blood and fresh ideas. I know Don Edwards personally, because he ran McArthur Hall (athletic dorm) when I was playing ball there. He is a fine, fairminded, tough man that bleeds maroon and white. From his comments in the paper, you can tell that he is an upstanding professional even in the wake of his dismissal. I hope that everyone on this board can somehow appreciate what I have said, and not regard him as some deadbeat, bloodsucking, parasite to the athletic department, because he is far from that by leaps and bounds.
Understandable if GB does a little spring cleaning, it's good for the
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department to get some new blood and fresh ideas. I know Don Edwards personally, because he ran McArthur Hall (athletic dorm) when I was playing ball there. He is a fine, fairminded, tough man that bleeds maroon and white. From his comments in the paper, you can tell that he is an upstanding professional even in the wake of his dismissal. I hope that everyone on this board can somehow appreciate what I have said, and not regard him as some deadbeat, bloodsucking, parasite to the athletic department, because he is far from that by leaps and bounds.
I don't know this guy, but I've always considered myself to work at the pleasure of my employer. Luckily I've never been fired, but if I had, I'd pack up and look for something else. And if you can't find anything else, it's probably an indication that you weren't very good at your job in the first place. Why would someone want to work somewhere they aren't wanted?
I assume the majority of jobs at state, including those in the ath dept, are subject to state personnel board regs. I'm not a state employee - never have been - so I can only assume that there is a grievance protocol contained in the regs. Obviously, if my assumptions are correct, then this guy will have to exhaust his remedies under the personnel board regs before he can sniff a courthouse.
They are held in check by some federal hiring and firing laws, but employees have no protection from the state.
I don't think he would just fire a guy for no reason. Like I said a couple of days ago, I hate it for the people who were fired. That can't be any fun. But I like what Byrne has done so far, and I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt on this.
After learning some more info on the situations, I understand the moves now and the reasoning. Greg is truly moving things forward and has the best interest of getting the most out of EVERYONE in the Athletic Dept.
Greg is on vacation for the week. Everyone in the Athletic Dept should of been spending this week making sure their resumes are up to date.
Greg is on vacation for the week. Everyone in the Athletic Dept should of been spending this week making sure their resumes are up to date.
I think everyone who has been reading since this situation occurred, understands how I initially felt very strongly about letting David go because he is such a hard worker..and defended him on here. and now that some reasons for the departure have been shared, I understand where Greg was coming from. Needless to say, it seems at time David and the media had problems between each other, and they were severe enough that a change needed to be made. This is not a recent only this year problem either, it seems to have been ongoing for at least several years.
In what has been our top sport of recent consistent success, there needs to be a smooth line of communication between the media and the media relations dept, no matter who the media is.
As has been noted on here, David is a great guy, a little different at times..but worked as hard (usually harder) than anyone else in the athletic dept, but his people skills are not the best.
He will land on his feet somewhere just fine, his body of work more than speaks for itself.
In what has been our top sport of recent consistent success, there needs to be a smooth line of communication between the media and the media relations dept, no matter who the media is.
As has been noted on here, David is a great guy, a little different at times..but worked as hard (usually harder) than anyone else in the athletic dept, but his people skills are not the best.
He will land on his feet somewhere just fine, his body of work more than speaks for itself.
Edwards is definetly a great guy and MSU means everything to him. He played for QB MSU in the 60's and that is him with Bull Sullivan on the cover of SI that I saw in an eariler thread.
Also, the three that were let go are way down the line and are not positions that in any way drive the direction of the department. If you think that the basketball team will get more time at the hump, or ticket sales will go throught the roof, or there will be any change, then you are crazy. This will have zero impact on the dept other than hurting the ones that were let go. If a company is not meeting their numbers, or is headed in the wrong direction, you don't fire the receptionist to turn it around.
I think that GB is trying to scare the rest of the dept, which in my opinion is not how you gain respect. This was nothing more than a power play and those three got the short end. There were other ways that this could/should have been handled.
Also, the three that were let go are way down the line and are not positions that in any way drive the direction of the department. If you think that the basketball team will get more time at the hump, or ticket sales will go throught the roof, or there will be any change, then you are crazy. This will have zero impact on the dept other than hurting the ones that were let go. If a company is not meeting their numbers, or is headed in the wrong direction, you don't fire the receptionist to turn it around.
I think that GB is trying to scare the rest of the dept, which in my opinion is not how you gain respect. This was nothing more than a power play and those three got the short end. There were other ways that this could/should have been handled.
Let's not let the man do his job, nope. Let's complain when he fires some of HIS employees even though we don't know jack about the inner workings. Let's not wait to see the outcome and judge Byrne's job performance then, oh no, let's judge it now with zero results and no idea how things will turn out. Great idea.
Stormrider81 said:
</p>You are sucking GB's dick so vigorously that you cannot comprehend what I wrote. I do know some of the details of these firings and it is my opinion that they should have been handled differently. But who expresses opinions on message boards anyway? That is crazy.
None of which is relevent to his job performance. If he was in charge of game-day ops, I think it's a given that he should be fired.
The person running the ticket office has no impact on the direction of that department?
These weren't receptionists being fired and you know it.
If getting rid of people who weren't doing their jobs (which anybody can easily see was the case for the ticket office manager and game-day ops manger) is scaring people, then maybe they need to consider if they're in the right job to begin with.
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