Unofficial Poll Time - Bulldog Initiative Related
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it’s early, but I think I see why recruiting sucks. I’m stuck in a fanbase of stubborn dubmasses.
I’m a stubborn dumbass, but that’s got nothing to do with this
I don't, and won't, until there is some accountability involved with it both on local level and a national governing body for all involved. Forgive me for not subscribing to the thought process of "here's my money, do with it what you see fit" and me not having a clue where it went and nobody has to say
Let me see if I can get my comment just right for the board. If I did give my money they would leave after the first year and go to Bama or LSU. If they were any good that's where they would be anyway. If they are here they ain't no good. Pretty close ?? Typical posters comments
I often wonder how many of the folks bitching on these message boards about how Charlie is/isn't spending Bulldog Initiative $ actually contribute to the Bulldog Initiative.
Not to mention that even when this stuff does eventually become more transparent, there's still the whole issue of no guarantees when it comes to player accountability or loyalty. Say what you want about ridiculous coaching contracts, but at least there are some stipulations with them when it comes to contract length and buyouts. Imagine giving $10k last year to a pool that ended up going to Zavion's sports car fund only for him to tuck his tail and head to LSU
If I wanted to pay players I'd just go buy the Dallas Cowboys. ***
Our fanbase blows. We will never be all in like the rest of the SEC. Yet, when something happens to our football program they will be the first ones to flock here and complain and **** all over our program. We have a bunch of losers as fans.
I really would like to see the results of a poll like this with other fanbase and see how it compares.
hey do with your $ what you will. But this is the landscape right now and we can complain or try and do what we can to help our school. Charlie and the BI folks want MSU to be successful so we need to support them and trust them and the coaches. And you don’t have to give much. Every little bit helps. Maybe we can learn something from our rival fanbase and how they’re supporting their program.
we saw in 2014 that football success helps the university as a whole.
we saw in 2014 that football success helps the university as a whole.
I am relying a lot on people I know that have a high opinion of Charlie. I'm not giving much so it's not a huge deal if they're wrong, but if you want to give enough that you really need to be worried about how they're spending it, I'm guessing they'll be happy to meet with you and give you more info.
ETA: I held out until last month. I don't like the way college football is operating, and I might just drop it in the future if there is no course correction, but we need to stay somewhat competitive while this shakes out.
Tell me about it:
One day: Why cant we get these players!?!?! OMG! We are gonna suck again! Fire someone!! Hire someone!! Blame someone!!
next day: I’m not giving s__t to NIL. Don’t care that all other teams have bought in. 5 or 10 bucks a month??? Shiiiiiiit. Whatever. Not till I’m satisfied. Heeeelllll naw.
Sorry, I rather invest in my own teenagers instead of someone else’s. Much better ROI.
Just a thought. Lets not go back down the rabbit hole of the guys that give versus the guys that do not give. We have had that battle many times over. Personally I give, not a great deal, but as much as Mrs. Devil will let me divert from the pesky things like our mortgage and raising my little hellspawn daughter. That does not make me any more or less of fan compared to anyone else. I hate the guys that base your fandom on how much one gives to the BI. I always think to myself well I already buy overpriced club seats. I am the 3rd generation of my family to graduate from State. I am raising the 4th generation right now that will go there as well. So, I think I have given enough, but if it means giving a little more to see my football dawgs be able to compete I am fine with that.
I completely get the guy that says I am not giving until it is better explained how this money is to be used. I completely get the guy that says you know these schools are already making tons on money from ticket sales, and tv deals so why is it fair to ask the lowest man on the totem pole to pay more? I also completely get the guy that says I have my own family to worry about, and I am not subsidizing somebody else teenager over mine. The real truth is this money should be coming out of the millions and millions (to steal from the Rock) that these schools get handed to them via previously mentioned sources ,and not from the already cash strapped average fan that is paying inflated ticket prices along with a myriad of other expenses just to come to the damn games in the first 17ing place.
I completely get the guy that says I am not giving until it is better explained how this money is to be used. I completely get the guy that says you know these schools are already making tons on money from ticket sales, and tv deals so why is it fair to ask the lowest man on the totem pole to pay more? I also completely get the guy that says I have my own family to worry about, and I am not subsidizing somebody else teenager over mine. The real truth is this money should be coming out of the millions and millions (to steal from the Rock) that these schools get handed to them via previously mentioned sources ,and not from the already cash strapped average fan that is paying inflated ticket prices along with a myriad of other expenses just to come to the damn games in the first 17ing place.
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Honestly, I'm investing in scholarships on the academic side. I guess if I got to @fishwater99 level of wealth, I might consider pushing some $$$ into athletics, but currently, and particularly given the mercenary nature of NIL, I can't see far enough down the road to know what circumstances might cause me to change my mind.
Does rounding up at Oby's count? Because if so... I give $1 a week lol
Solid. I mean in my own family, I've already paid for 9 degrees from MSU, and still have some PTSD from my own student loans...
ETA: to be clear, there were some scholarships, student loans and time to pay them back involved along the way. I don't have the capacity just scratch a check for college.
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One would think that the Prince of Darkness could get his hands on some untraceable cash from illicit activities & prop up the Bulldog Initiative
If NIL was more interactive with fans, it could be fun, and perhaps more would be willing to give. Seeing your contribution and where it goes is satisfying.
For 17s sake, when there’s an active, live tally on drinks bought at an Omaha bar, our fans open those wallets big time.
For 17s sake, when there’s an active, live tally on drinks bought at an Omaha bar, our fans open those wallets big time.
But then again, it’s par for the course for the Devil to be in cahoots with the Red Menace… **
First, it is more like claws than hands at least in my true form. Second, I give a good bit I was just trying to be nice.
I came here to post something similar. If rounding up at Oby's is considered, I recently gave 15 cents to state's NIL.
I give a modest amount monthly. I don’t expect to be entitled and have someone from the BI explain where the money goes.
I do expect to see that the BI is working to get and keep good players. After all, we heard so much over the last month about how much was raised. Right now, I’m seeing quality players leaving and warm bodies committing.
I do expect to see that the BI is working to get and keep good players. After all, we heard so much over the last month about how much was raised. Right now, I’m seeing quality players leaving and warm bodies committing.
Along these lines, I saw tweet from the Alumni association a few weeks ago, Mississippi State has 160,000 living alumni. Per Dog Tag, we have approximately 14,000 in the Bulldog Club. I am almost certain, if you bought football season tickets last year, and paid the PSL greater than $600, you would have a BC ranking higher than 10,000. So 14,000 members and basically 10,000 active members.
I realize Bulldog Initiative and Bulldog club are two different things but I think those numbers give you an idea of the participation levels of our alumni.
I realize Bulldog Initiative and Bulldog club are two different things but I think those numbers give you an idea of the participation levels of our alumni.
I give but not routinely. I've got more important fish to fry in things that actually matter in my real life. Giving money to an athlete at msu who is likely going to leave anyway is not exactly my highest priority. I think nil was never meant nor intended for fans to support like they were with bulldog club. Businesses sure. Athletic department from tv money and sales? Yes. They are the ones selling product and getting money back. Fans already pay for tickets, tv, etc that is making all the money. Until they put some harder contract structure on these deals and structure transfer rules better again, routine giving won't be in my budget. I'm not routinely giving money just for a guy to transfer to lsu or ole miss after a year or two. If I could stipend to give to seniors I would.
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The NIL that I'm contributing to has my Name, my Image, my Likeness.
2nd kid is finishing at MSU this next semester. That's 6 straight years of rent and tuition so we have no disposable income for teenagers we don't know. Hell, it's been 7 years since we've been on a real vacation. With all the other little life stuff that happens, prob be another 6 years to financially recover from the last 6 years so no, I'm not contributing to any schools NIL programs.
2nd kid is finishing at MSU this next semester. That's 6 straight years of rent and tuition so we have no disposable income for teenagers we don't know. Hell, it's been 7 years since we've been on a real vacation. With all the other little life stuff that happens, prob be another 6 years to financially recover from the last 6 years so no, I'm not contributing to any schools NIL programs.
I don't know why they keep trying to prop up this charade that this is to compensate players for "Name, Image, & Likeness" usage. It's not. It's pay for play. period. And a fan has ZERO guarantees that they won't pay money to a player...him go buy a Ferrari with what they paid him, then he bolts to whatever team offers him more next year. Shite just isn't sustainable in it's current form, and we appear to have imbecils running the NCAA, who have zero clue how to setup and enforce guidelines for anything
IPTAY. That worked great in 1934. But $10 per year won’t cut it in todays NIL world.
That’s your choice but don’t talk about how ole Miss and others are leaving us behind.
Meh other fan bases have idiots too.
they just have more big money people willing to contribute
The key to this statement is “willing to contribute”. We have plenty of millionaire alumni who won’t. That’s the difference
I imagine the percentages are fairly close
Alabama just has more millionaire alumni than we do.
Sure, but you’d be surprised at the amount of affluent alumni who don’t give a penny. Very different at OM
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