USC & UCLA to B1G by 2024; conferences react; TV contracts thread
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I don't know yet how I feel about further expansion, but enough of letting Ohio State and Michigan run the Big Ten. When will this ever end.
Being that OSU is against expansion, i hope they expand to 30 teams now. I tired of the circle jerk of OSU - UM.
That's just like California. Take a good rational improvement (removing the UCLA AD financial dead weight from the UC system) and blow it to bits.
"Consider them rolled"—A look back at the Big Ten-ESPN meeting that changed sports media and college football forever
Conference realignment and the rise of new sports networks all trace back to one meeting between ESPN and the Big Ten in 2004.
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Could we rename the Pinstripe Bowl to the "Lady Liberty Bowl"? Or maybe the "Mediocre Bowl" where every year the hosting School could rotate between Rutgers, Maryland, Illinois and Minny ?
Lots of advantages for the season ticket holders:
No traffic getting to the stadium.
No problem getting into the parking lots.
No back ups at ticket entrance gates.
No lines at concession stands or restrooms.
Plenty of elbow space at your seats.
Don't like your seats? Easily move to one of 90,000 others - your choice!
No issues pulling up cell signal or wi-fi.
Never. Michigan has controlled the B10 for over 100 years and that’s not changing.
Well, it was against a cupcake and that photo was taken either pre-game or half time. But UCLA has never had great attendance and the fact that the Rose Bowl is no where near campus (and LA traffic) doesn't help.
It would make a lot of sense for UCLA to move to SoFi Stadium but I think they are locked into the Rose Bowl for a long time.
I look forward to continued SHlTTY home attendance by UCLA fans and easily obtainable 50 yard line seats when PSU visits the Rose Bowl.
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Reported attendance for the 9/10 game v. South Alabama was 29K+. Reported attendance for a conference primetime matchup against two 4-0 teams (then 15th-ranked Washington) ... only 41K+.
Something needs to change.
Makes sense. They'll need more refs since more conference games will be played although to start it'll only be one more game on a full in-conference weekend. If they're looking to poach multiple officiating crews that could mean they expect more expansion beyond USC/UCLA.
Non-B1G roots is a good thing for the officials. I was at the 2006 Orange Bowl where a Big East crew was assigned to officiate. At the time I was impressed by the way they handled the game. I became more impressed later after watching a replay of the game. They kept control and didn't blow any calls that I could see. My grade for them was A+. Turn the clock ahead a few years and Big East football implodes. I was watching a Big Ten game and was surprised to see the referee was none other than Jerry McGinn, the same referee from the 2006 Orange Bowl. I was amazed the conference would hire someone who wasn't already indoctrinated by the conference, but to their credit they hired someone who was/is good at the job.
With any luck, they'll decide on the divisions before making the schedules. But it's not like people want to plan ahead or anything.
Tom that is one heck of an article for sure . Not sure how accurate but good .Probably the best article I've seen analyzing which schools are the best additions if the B1G were to expand. Plus the article brings in a new term, "Rutgers Line," which is similar to the Mendoza Line in baseball.
Where Should The Big Ten Expand Next? We Crunched The Numbers.
Which schools should the Big Ten poach next?fivethirtyeight.com
We’ll, they had to keep all the Big 10 ADs and coaches in the dark to prevent them from killing the move. There was a lot of arm twisting by the Illinois prez and a promise was made to Northwestern that they wouldn’t be kicked out.
With all that, the vote barely passed 7-3, (2/3 majority needed). Delaney announced the invitation, then backtracked after pressure from Big 10 coaches and ADs, before eventually confirming the invitation finally.
Other than that it was smooth sailing.
Indiana, Michigan, and Michigan State voted against IIRC. May they all lose every game they play, in every sport, until the end of time. Is that asking too much?
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Pac-12 expansion update, and media rights deal believed to be happening soon - Sports Illustrated All Cardinal News, Analysis and More
The Pac-12 needs to make a move and some experts think that move will happen very soon
www.si.com
If they do go to 20 schools, I'd prefer Stanford, Cal. North Carolina and Miami. Great to good academics. adds to West coast and expands the Eastern seaboard footprint. Notre Dame? General arrogance, private religious school, etc. etc. No thanks. We already have two Midwest schools dictating in this conference, we certainly don't need another.
P.S. Ideally, which will not happen, I'd like to see Nebraska gone and replaced by either Washington or Oregon.
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The presidents run the schools . Coaches and AD's have little or no input , but the presidents make the call . As for schools being kicked , that was not going to happen . It is and always be about the money , period and how it is distributed ,We’ll, they had to keep all the Big 10 ADs and coaches in the dark to prevent them from killing the move. There was a lot of arm twisting by the Illinois prez and a promise was made to Northwestern that they wouldn’t be kicked out.
With all that, the vote barely passed 7-3, (2/3 majority needed). Delaney announced the invitation, then backtracked after pressure from Big 10 coaches and ADs, before eventually confirming the invitation finally.
Other than that it was smooth sailing.
Indiana, Michigan, and Michigan State voted against IIRC. May they all lose every game they play, in every sport, until the end of time. Is that asking too much?
Very interesting Tom . I am surprised about SMU , but that program will never be what it once was . but it is the state of Texas , As for the other schools ?? But again Tom , thanks for posting .Pac-12 expansion update, and media rights deal believed to be happening soon - Sports Illustrated All Cardinal News, Analysis and More
The Pac-12 needs to make a move and some experts think that move will happen very soon
ACC schools cannot anything till the GOR is taken care of , and that could take awhile .
Without USC, the conference's only real consistently marketable program is Oregon. Washington would be a distant 2nd. SMU only really adds the TV market, so I see why that is considered a hot option. A little surprised the Big 12 did not go after them - they are right there in geographic footprint.
As was I on the big 12 for that faux paux , made no sense .That is why Oregon and Wash would be next in when the TV money is right for the big 10 , but after reading the article Tom posted still interesting .
Big 12 nears six-year, $2.28B TV extension deal with ESPN, Fox
See the link below. From the article:
”The Big 12 is on the cusp of extending its current television contract with ESPN and Fox, according to ESPN sources.
The league is in the final stages of putting together a six-year, $2.28 billion contract extension that includes a sizable pay bump for schools. The new contract, which takes hold starting in 2025, includes ESPN owning more than 60 percent of the inventory and Fox adding a sizable portion of college basketball.
The contract's near completion was first reported by the Sports Business Journal.
The deal projects for the Big 12 to make a sharp increase in media revenue per school, despite Oklahoma and Texas not being in the league after the 2024 season. A source said that the league is expected to agree to a grant of rights with its 12 members for the length of the deal.
The overall value of the Big 12's media deal is expected to increase from $220 million annually to $380 million. That's an average increase in media-only revenue per school from $22 million to $31.7 million (the $380 million is now divided 12 ways with the addition of BYU, UCF, Cincinnati and Houston).
The new deal will mark an uptick in the Big 12's overall distribution number, which currently stands at $42.6 million per school. That number is subject to myriad variables such as NCAA tournament units, bowl revenue and new College Football Playoff revenue.”
www.espn.com
Penn State to the big 12.
See the link below. From the article:
”The Big 12 is on the cusp of extending its current television contract with ESPN and Fox, according to ESPN sources.
The league is in the final stages of putting together a six-year, $2.28 billion contract extension that includes a sizable pay bump for schools. The new contract, which takes hold starting in 2025, includes ESPN owning more than 60 percent of the inventory and Fox adding a sizable portion of college basketball.
The contract's near completion was first reported by the Sports Business Journal.
The deal projects for the Big 12 to make a sharp increase in media revenue per school, despite Oklahoma and Texas not being in the league after the 2024 season. A source said that the league is expected to agree to a grant of rights with its 12 members for the length of the deal.
The overall value of the Big 12's media deal is expected to increase from $220 million annually to $380 million. That's an average increase in media-only revenue per school from $22 million to $31.7 million (the $380 million is now divided 12 ways with the addition of BYU, UCF, Cincinnati and Houston).
The new deal will mark an uptick in the Big 12's overall distribution number, which currently stands at $42.6 million per school. That number is subject to myriad variables such as NCAA tournament units, bowl revenue and new College Football Playoff revenue.”
Big 12 close to $2.28B media deal with ESPN, Fox
The Big 12 is near completion of a six-year media deal extension with ESPN and Fox Sports that is expected to be worth $380 million a year and will take hold starting in 2025.
www.espn.com
Penn State to the big 12.
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