USC & UCLA to B1G by 2024; conferences react; TV contracts thread

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Why would the PAC 12, or anyone else for that matter, care if Colorado left to go back to the Big 12 (where they were in the first place-Big 8)?? These 2 conferences are scrambling to survive and the Colorado Athletic Dept brings little to nothing to the table.
 

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Why would the PAC 12, or anyone else for that matter, care if Colorado left to go back to the Big 12 (where they were in the first place-Big 8)?? These 2 conferences are scrambling to survive and the Colorado Athletic Dept brings little to nothing to the table.

No idea whatsoever. Colorado has been putrid in the PAC 12 as far as football goes. The Big 12 is getting an original member back, but not a program remotely close to the ones they've lost. Nebraska is another who has done nothing beyond average since leaving and I truly don't expect Oklahoma nor Texas to fare well in the SEC. Texas has been overrated and fell flat 80% of the time since Colt Mccoy graduated. They can't even win in the Big 12...good luck. OU has been successful and may do alright, but they have an uphill battle facing some combination of Georgia Bama and LSU every other year.

I'd like to say I understand this, but I do not.
 

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Why would the PAC 12, or anyone else for that matter, care if Colorado left to go back to the Big 12 (where they were in the first place-Big 8)?? These 2 conferences are scrambling to survive and the Colorado Athletic Dept brings little to nothing to the table.
$$$$$$.
 

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Why would the PAC 12, or anyone else for that matter, care if Colorado left to go back to the Big 12 (where they were in the first place-Big 8)?? These 2 conferences are scrambling to survive and the Colorado Athletic Dept brings little to nothing to the table.
Lol, well they do bring the "Prime" effect and the Denver market, CU finally investing back into Football, damn shame they let them go from one of the top programs in the country to where they are currently.
 

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What money does Colorado athletics bring to either conference? No tradition. Horrible results. No TV market. I don’t get it.
1990 National Champs, were one of the top programs in the country when Mac retired have won every award possible, greatest entrance in College Football with Ralphie, plenty of tradition.
 

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What money does Colorado athletics bring to either conference? No tradition. Horrible results. No TV market. I don’t get it.
Colorado has fallen on tough times lately, but they do have a fine tradition and they do bring a TV market that is currently untapped by the BIG or the SEC. Looking forward, Colorado could eventually be a target for the BIG if there is an arms race between the SEC and the BIG. But they need Deion to be successful to make that happen.
 

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I remember when Mike Tranghese said there's nothing to see or worry about here, no one is leaving the Big East. In a blink of an eye Virginia Tech, Miami and Boston College moved to the ACC. But rumor has it that Mike gave all three schools the horns and even worse yet the malocchio. This is just a joke.

But honestly, other than the conference making more money I don't see how this move helps the Big 10 win another NC? Unless of course they expand the playoffs to 8 teams which I don't see happening anytime soon.
 
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1990 National Champs, were one of the top programs in the country when Mac retired have won every award possible, greatest entrance in College Football with Ralphie, plenty of tradition.
I’m aware, but that is 33 yrs ago now. Mac isn’t coming back and the program isn’t relevant.
 

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Lol, well they do bring the "Prime" effect and the Denver market, CU finally investing back into Football, damn shame they let them go from one of the top programs in the country to where they are currently.
Prime isn’t staying very long and has a very short resume. If he has any semblance of success, he is gone. Don’t kid yourself. He is all about himself and nothing more. I agree about the Denver TV market being untapped, but is it really a college football market there to tap? I don’t know. I’m asking out of ignorance?
 
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What money does Colorado athletics bring to either conference? No tradition. Horrible results. No TV market. I don’t get it.
Let's see. Colorado has a larger population that Iowa, Minnesota, and Nebraska, states with Big Ten members. It also has a larger population than WV, Kansas, Oklahoma, Utah, and WV, states with current or future Big 12 members. In terms of population growth rate, it ranks fifth.

How that translates into dollars, I don't know. But that doesn't matter. Brett Yormark has promised a full share of Big 12 conference revenue sharing, which will be larger than it was before the departures of Texas and Oklahoma, and he can't do that if Colorado is a drag on earnings.
 
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Let's see. Colorado has a larger population that Iowa, Minnesota, and Nebraska, states with Big Ten members. It also has a larger population than WV, Kansas, Oklahoma, Utah, and WV, states with current or future Big 12 members. In terms of population growth rate, it ranks fifth.

How that translates into dollars, I don't know. But that doesn't matter. Brett Yormark has promised a full share of Big 12 conference revenue sharing, which will be larger than it was before the departures of Texas and Oklahoma, and he can't do that if Colorado is a drag on earnings.
Yep.
It is all about - or should be about - marginal per capita net revenues, and whether the accretion to earnings is positive.
As you laid out, it is quite possible - probably highly likely - that for the B12, adding Colorado is a positive impact on net earnings per school (Colorado might not be such for the Big Ten, probably wouldn't be, but that's a whole different - and irrelevant - environment). As opposed to when the Big Ten added Rutgers - and probably also the additions of Maryland and UCLA.
 

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Let's see. Colorado has a larger population that Iowa, Minnesota, and Nebraska, states with Big Ten members. It also has a larger population than WV, Kansas, Oklahoma, Utah, and WV, states with current or future Big 12 members. In terms of population growth rate, it ranks fifth.

How that translates into dollars, I don't know. But that doesn't matter. Brett Yormark has promised a full share of Big 12 conference revenue sharing, which will be larger than it was before the departures of Texas and Oklahoma, and he can't do that if Colorado is a drag on earnings.
I get all of that, but it seems like a lot of desperation on the part of the conferences to survive to me. I think if the B1G and SEC add 2 more each, it will be the demise of the others and they will all be begging to jump on board. It will reflect the NFL, 2 major conferences, 12 team (for now) playoffs, etc. Let’s not kid ourselves. It’s about crazy stupid money at this point and if a team can’t hold their own at generating money, they will be left out.
 

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I get all of that, but it seems like a lot of desperation on the part of the conferences to survive to me. I think if the B1G and SEC add 2 more each, it will be the demise of the others and they will all be begging to jump on board. It will reflect the NFL, 2 major conferences, 12 team (for now) playoffs, etc. Let’s not kid ourselves. It’s about crazy stupid money at this point and if a team can’t hold their own at generating money, they will be left out.
A lot of the motivation is survival. Those schools that won't be invited to the Big Ten or SEC will have to band together in lesser organizations. And if the networks continue to pay the dollars they are paying, they'll do just fine.
 
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Playoff expands to 12 for '24 season.
This is good news. I’m not sure if the format allows for this, but I wouldn’t mind watching a 2 loss team take out a top seed. One thing is for sure it’s going to make December and January much more interesting.
 
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Pretty hard to believe the Tigers or Noles figured out how to break the ACC GOR. However, I could believe the Huskies and Ducks are on their way with the implosion of the PAC.
Wait, didn’t Colorado just join the PAC whatever #.
 
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If the big 10 can pull in Clemson and FSU that would be a huge get. FSU is back on the rise and would give PSU and the big10 that much more credit when recruiting in Florida.
 

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Whelp, that would explain the Narduzzi's rant against PSU and the Big10 offense. He should be grateful to the Big10, because if this actually does come true, sPitt can win the Coastal Division every year and brag to the world how they deserve a spot in the College Playoffs each year, only to be smoked higher than Snoop Dog's dog on a typical Saturday night party after the first playoff game.
 
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