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USC & UCLA to B1G by 2024; conferences react; TV contracts thread

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doctornick said:
The current CFP model is basically pushing for a whole lot of casual fans who watch on TV but alienating a smaller group of core fans who actually support the sport more heavily. I do wonder as it progresses more towards NFL lite, will it lose all the cool things that actually made it distinct from the pros?
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JMO, from someone who has had season tickets at PSU for 25+ years, its already moving in that direction. The game day experience is much closer to some pro games I've been to at the Steelers, Ravens and Cowboy Stadiums. I mean structural issues aside, its why they are renovating the Beav.
Another, JMO, but one of the coolest differences between pros and college was the band. Outside of the start of the game and the half time show I barely even know they are there anymore. 🤷‍♂️
 
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GrimReaper said:
Applications? Probably. Academic quality? Bama ranks behind Samford. Saban needs to ramp it up, dadgummit.
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Not sure he is up for that... just bought a house just north of me in Jupiter, FL for close to $20 million.... ;)
 
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bbrown said:
JMO, from someone who has had season tickets at PSU for 25+ years, its already moving in that direction. The game day experiencer is much closer to some pro games I've been to at the Steelers, Ravens and Cowboy Stadiums. I mean structural issues aside, its why they are renovating the Beav.
Another, JMO, but one of the coolest differences between pros and college was the band. Outside of the start of the game and the half time show I barely even know they are there anymore. 🤷‍♂️
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I miss the marshmallow fights...
 
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doctornick said:
I’d be shocked if we see any additional west coast additions anytime soon or ever. Notre Dame and FSU will be the next targets, with UNC, UVA, and Miami (FL) being the secondary targets from the ACC
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The Big Ten added the worst program in P5 football - Rutgers - just a few years back. Never underestimate the WTF power of Higher Ed/"Amateur" Athletics leadership
 
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SurgeOne said:
Football drives applications and academic quality.
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All evidence says exactly the opposite - certainly wrt "Academic Quality".

Ask yourself:
Who are the top academic institutions in each conference? - Northwestern in the B10, Vandy in the SEC, Stanford in the P12, Duke in the ACC, whats left of the B12... maybe Kansas? Baylor? depending on who you ask.
What do those schools (aside from, maybe, Baylor) have in common? It ain't a history of top-quality football.

Bama? An 80% acceptance rate - and a ranking well outside of the top 100.

That does NOT mean "good football" leads to lousy academics (FWIW, I don't believe that to be true), but - for sure - "good football" does not drive academic prestige. Not at all.
 
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What’s up with all this travel burden talk?

We have dozens of Assistant ADs to schedule planes, games and logistics. They might as well work for a living.

As for distance you guys act like it’s 1940 and we do our travel by train and bus. Then it was half a day or overnite to play a game in South Bend, Columbus, or Boston.

So what if you get on a plane at 6:00 now, take your seat, and nap for a couple hours? You still end up at 12:00 in a LA DoubleTree room with the same bed, tv, bath and lobby.

I understand Florida State BOT just authorized the purchase of two planes. They plan to control costs that way. A charter to Lincoln Neb is only marginally cheaper than a charter to Seattle.
 
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It’s a sad day for college football. Another step down a road with a dead end.

If college football had a commissioner like the NFL, MLB or other pro sports these moves would have been voided as contrary to the best interests of the sport.
 
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EricStratton-RushChairman said:
It is interesting to think that if you go back nearly 40 years there were two key events that triggered where we are today...

(1) 1986 Fiesta Bowl moved outside/past Jan1st date and put in prime time, the first time the bowl system was manipulated specifically for a #1 vs #2 match-up

(2) 1990 when Penn State announces it was joining BIG 10... it started the first sizable conference movements (including AK to SEC, FL ST to ACC)

I don't think JVP would be thrilled with where we are today though
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I think you missed when Pitt, Syracuse, and Boston College aligned to defeat Paterno's plan for an Eastern Conference. The scrapping of that plan led to Penn State joining the Big Ten.
 
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I’m trying to find the appropriate word to describe how I’m feeling.
 
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LionJim said:
I’m trying to find the appropriate word to describe how I’m feeling.
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"Resigned"?


resigned
[rəˈzīnd]

ADJECTIVE
  1. having accepted something unpleasant that one cannot do anything about:
    "my response is a resigned shrug of the shoulders"

 
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EricStratton-RushChairman said:
It is interesting to think that if you go back nearly 40 years there were two key events that triggered where we are today...

(1) 1986 Fiesta Bowl moved outside/past Jan1st date and put in prime time, the first time the bowl system was manipulated specifically for a #1 vs #2 match-up

(2) 1990 when Penn State announces it was joining BIG 10... it started the first sizable conference movements (including AK to SEC, FL ST to ACC)

I don't think JVP would be thrilled with where we are today though
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The court case affirming that the conferences can control their own media rights was the moment that started all of this. The snowball was pretty small at the time, it gets larger each year as CFB steps ever closer to NFL light with each iteration.
 
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Just saw that ND is locked into staying Independent or joining the ACC through 2036. I think this is going to cost them dearly.

Their prospects seem to be between staying Independent and finding it increasingly harder to schedule worthy opponents which will hurt their CFP chances...or joining the ACC which at present is a very weak conference which only appears to be getting weaker.
 
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Where does George Kliavkoff rank in the pantheon of ”college” athletics horses’ a$$es?
 
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