USC & UCLA to B1G by 2024; conferences react; TV contracts thread
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There's no value there. I think the best thing for all parties now is for the Big 12 to take in the remaining 4 Pac 12 teams.
Thinking of travel games - quite aware of the relative value or lack thereof of additional west coast schools.
There’s no value in any of the remaining west coast schools and no one in the core Big Ten is going to want additional travel costs associated with getting those other schools without any substantial gain.
At this point, any more Big Ten additions going forward are going to be from the ACC or Notre Dame. Maybe a very slim chance for Stanford if ND insists on it, but I doubt they would.
Yeah. I don’t get what Stanford or Cal bring at this point except lots of extra costs and revenue dilution. Both now have the excuse they’ve needed to deemphasize sports.
Remember just a year or so ago the Big 12 was considered to be a dying entity?
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Brilliant maneuvering by the Big 12 ever since Texas and Oklahoma announced they were leaving.
The addition of Washington and Oregon will likely result in a return to divisional football. To many teams in disparate geographical locations.
You would think it has to be. Tough to have east coast schools flying out west more than once a year.
So maybe 3 six team divisions, EAST: PSU, OSU, Michigan, Maryland, Rutgers, Indiana. CENTRAL: MSU, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Purdue, Illinois, Iowa. and WEST: Nebraska, Minnesota USC, UCLA, Oregon Washington.
Not sure how you would have a conference champion. I guess ideally you would have the three division champions and a wild card have a four team playoff. But that would not fly since more than likely all four of those teams would potentially be in the extended national championship playoff.
Not sure how you would have a conference champion. I guess ideally you would have the three division champions and a wild card have a four team playoff. But that would not fly since more than likely all four of those teams would potentially be in the extended national championship playoff.
It still is. There are just more passengers in the lifeboat.
Per Pete Thamel on espn, the future of the remaining Pac 12 schools is murky at best (in terms of athletics, of course). Mountain West schools have a $32 MM exit fee, so they won’t simply jump to the Pac 12. Also, a possible merger between conferences is tenuous because the Pac 12 brings a lot of Comcast debt from the larry scott era.
What a mess.
What a mess.
So... maybe, like, have the western teams play primarily against one another, which would mean the same for the eastern teams, obviously?
Kinda' like sorta' have them act as two conferences?
Oh, wait
By my figuring (which admittedly could be wrong), with 18, the teams east of the Rockies will each only need to make one trip per season to the west coast assuming a nine game conference schedule.
- B18 West would host 18 conference games per year assuming two have 5 home/4 away and the other two have 4 home/5 away.
- With Protect Plus (or whatever it's called) the four western teams would play each other annually. So one year, for example, USC and Oregon would have two home and one away. UCLA and UW would have one home and two away. That would account for 6 of the 18 conference home games which would be played on the west coast.
- That leaves 12 conference home games to fill for the west coast teams, three at each location. So a couple of eastern teams wouldn't even need to travel west in a given year.
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How many seasons in a row will PSU open on the west coast?
No way. Divisions make even less sense the larger a conference is as it would result in certain team rarely playing. We’ll probably see all 4 west coast teams locked as permanent plays with each other keeping a similar system to what they came up with for 2024/25.
Once the NCAA got rid of the need for divisions for conferences with 12+ members to hold a conference championship, the purpose of divisions went away. They aren’t coming back.
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I was looking at that as well. I am thinking maybe initially right now an east/west conference. IF they add FSU and Clemson then maybe a north/south/east/west conference with winner of each playing in big 10 semi finals and those winners playing for big10 championship.
Here is the thing that should, IMO, scare everyone.
The folks who made the "decisions" - at least from the Big Ten side (From the Pac12 side, it may have been a no brainer, so long as you can blind yourself from the hypocrisy of the "its all about the student athletes" propaganda. Any non leaking boat in a hurricane is better than no boat at all ) - have no idea how any of this will work, or even how they think it will work.
The folks who made the "decisions" - at least from the Big Ten side (From the Pac12 side, it may have been a no brainer, so long as you can blind yourself from the hypocrisy of the "its all about the student athletes" propaganda. Any non leaking boat in a hurricane is better than no boat at all ) - have no idea how any of this will work, or even how they think it will work.
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18 schools divided by 9 games = you can host and visit every school every four years and preserve 1 protected rival.
You can add a 19th school but you'd have to drop the protected rival unless you expand to 10-plus conference games.
You can add a 19th school but you'd have to drop the protected rival unless you expand to 10-plus conference games.
Deion Sanders is correct when he asked about all this realignment...
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“Man, I don’t care nothing about no different teams moving, we’re trying to win, man. I don’t care where we play,” Sanders said during his media session. “I don’t care what conference, who we’re playing against, we’re trying to win. All this is about money, you know that. It’s about a bag, everybody’s chasing the bag. Then you get mad at the players when they chase it. "
“How is that? How do the grownups get mad at the players when they chase it, when the colleges are chasing it?”
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“Man, I don’t care nothing about no different teams moving, we’re trying to win, man. I don’t care where we play,” Sanders said during his media session. “I don’t care what conference, who we’re playing against, we’re trying to win. All this is about money, you know that. It’s about a bag, everybody’s chasing the bag. Then you get mad at the players when they chase it. "
“How is that? How do the grownups get mad at the players when they chase it, when the colleges are chasing it?”
it’s a beautiful area!Your take is they are just randomly doing his without any idea why or what will happen?
That’s a silly take in my opinion. These things aren’t random. They know where they are going.
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