USC & UCLA to B1G by 2024; conferences react; TV contracts thread
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Don’t forget Washington, DC area - B1G gets that too via Maryland.
The thought of USC and UCLA teams coming to the Midwest and Northeast in mid-November through mid-March made me think of this scene from Cool Runnings.
Every decision maker at the ACC and PAC 12 should be super fired. Wow what idiots.
B1G waiting on ND's answer. Speculation that if they say yes, we will add ND and Oregon. If no, then it will be Washington and Oregon. Go to 18 and leave space to add ND, should they change their minds down the road.
Or ND can act like the lady at the 50th class reunion who is still single, but thinks that every man at the class reunion will dump their spouse just to have that one "special" night with them, even though that special night should have happened 50 years ago.
Thing is if this lady says yes, she's yours for Life. Not just one night. Adding USC, UCLA, Notre Dame and Oregon was unthinkable a week ago. Now it's a possibility. Chritmas in July.
Hmmm…that sounds personal. Who is she?
How about the ND negotiator:
1. Long term contract with NBC locked at $15 mil/season,
2. Long term GOR contract with ACC (albeit football may not be covered),
3. Long term agreement with ACC to prevent joining a conference other than the ACC.
Of course ND has remained an “independent” in football even though they they are typically required to play 4-5 games a season vs ACC teams.
Hmmm…that sounds personal. Who is she?
Are you sure you didn't mean to say "25th class reunion," or something similar? The 50th ... we're talking nearly 70 year olds. You really think they're looking for someone to dump their spouse to get busy with them? Or maybe it's just to join their bridge club?
UT and A&M own the Texas markets, there's nothing left there. The remaining candidates wouldn't be a big enough draw, the SEC has Texas locked down with the UT and OU recently agreeing to move.
Why Oregon before Washington? I think UW academics are better and Seattle is a bigger market than Portland.
LOL - Do you really believe academics is any part of these discussions?
It All Comes Down to Notre Dame
With college football realignment in full swing, the x-factor school is Notre Dame. Will they stubbornly remain independent, or join the Big Ten or ACC?
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Need to get to FOUR conferences of 24 teams - which covers the majority of schools - some will be left out (like Pitt 
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then the four champs play in the final four and there’s your championship- settled on the field !!! -
- no talking Heads, no BS eye tests
- great crossover games because you can afford to lose a game and make it to your playoffs
Amd if you’d like I could actually spin real traditional bowl games within the playoff structure
)then the four champs play in the final four and there’s your championship- settled on the field !!! -
- no talking Heads, no BS eye tests
- great crossover games because you can afford to lose a game and make it to your playoffs
Amd if you’d like I could actually spin real traditional bowl games within the playoff structure
Finally, something even less attractive than the Land Grant Trophy.
You mean the extra Nike $ that would be poured into Oregon to help them better compete with OSU? Personally, if it comes down to Oregon or Washington, I would like to see Washington.
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But there are only 65 D1 teams… Also, the other two conferences beyond SEC and Big Ten would be crap. Why give them a seat at the table?Need to get to FOUR conferences of 24 teams - which covers the majority of schools - some will be left out (like Pitt
then the four champs play in the final four and there’s your championship- settled on the field !!! -
- no talking Heads, no BS eye tests
- great crossover games because you can afford to lose a game and make it to your playoffs
Amd if you’d like I could actually spin real traditional bowl games within the playoff structure
Who knows? At this point, I am quite certain even the folks who are supposed to know, haven't got a clue.Need to get to FOUR conferences of 24 teams - which covers the majority of schools - some will be left out (like Pitt
That said - the only net-net benefit, of all this nonsense, for the power programs, is to cut away all the chaff from the wheat (so they don't have to "share" with all of the have-nots) - so why would there be any consideration, on their part, to include "96 teams".
None of the Big Boys (Big Ten and SEC) want to add chaff to THEIR "conference" (certainly), and if two of the "24 team conferences" are composed of the leftover chaff, why would the Big Boys even bother to acknowledge their existence? With no NCAA to "protect them", who's gonna' be their Angel?
(If the likes of Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, Rutgers, etc were not already in the "protected class", would anyone want them?)
Just kind of putting pieces together - but I can't see any way the music stops without a whole lot of chaff being relegated to the hinterlands.
If there are more than 60 or so "A League" programs - max - when this is all done, I will be very, very surprised. (because, you know, the people pulling the levers for college sports are ethical, righteous people who are vitally interested in competition, student-athlete wellness, and fair play
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You hit on an interesting topic: are the current SEC and B1G members guaranteed a seat in perpetuity?Who knows? At this point, I am quite certain even the folks who are supposed to know, haven't got a clue.
That said - the only net-net benefit, of all this nonsense, for the power programs, is to cut away all the chaff from the wheat (so they don't have to "share" with all of the have-nots) - so why would there be any consideration, on their part, to include "96 teams".
None of the Big Boys (Big Ten and SEC) want to add chaff to THEIR "conference" (certainly), and if two of the "24 team conferences" are composed of the leftover chaff, why would the Big Boys even bother to acknowledge their existence? With no NCAA to "protect them", who's gonna' be their Angel?
(If the likes of Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, Rutgers, etc were not already in the "protected class", would anyone want them?)
Just kind of putting pieces together - but I can't see any way the music stops without a whole lot of chaff being relegated to the hinterlands.
If there are more than 60 or so "A League" programs - max - when this is all done, I will be very, very surprised. (because, you know, the people pulling the levers for college sports are ethical, righteous people who are vitally interested in competition, student-athlete wellness, and fair play
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If this goes down the way many suspect it will, then I can easily see programs like Vandy, NW and others being dropped to bring in more lucrative members.
It may all come down to contract law and what kind of binding member agreements exist.
That is an interesting question. As of right now, schools like Northwestern, Rutgers, Miss St, Missouri, Minnesota, South Carolina etc - look like the idiot who was born on 3rd base. Will that continue into perpetuity?
Who knows? I expect they are safe for the time being, but perhaps they shouldn't get too comfortable.
Eventually, revenue growth slows. That’s when leagues will “get creative” to continue growth.
This is where expansion works against the old guard in a conference. You admit new players with no historical ties or traditions with you. That dilutes voting power and makes it easier for the almighty dollar to drive future decisions.
Get your popcorn ready!
That’s not entirely true. There are 65 P5 teams. Add in the G5 teams and it’s a total of 130 or so teams.
Yep, otherwise the Big 10 wouldn't keep targeting AAU members. They'll make an exception for ND and that might be the only one. It's not the academic rankings they are after but the associated dollars that come with it. And remember that the university presidents carry more weight in these conversations than the coaches and athletic directors.
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