Really want to hear the explanation that works for the way the inning ended with supporting documentation.
Vandy Game 2 Thread
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Yea, I don't think there is any. The ruling is that we got the force at third with the hitter passing the runner between first and second ruled the second out. That means the play at second is no longer a force. That being the case, if you're ever in a tight spot with a run going to score, just have your trailing runner pass the other guy from now on because then the run counts according to these fools.
The runner at 3rd scored. That wasn't going to change. The runner at 2nd was out on a force at 3rd. The runner at 1st went to 2nd and back to 1st. The batter passed the runner as the runner headed back to 1st. Out #2 came after the runner scored. Kinda the same as getting an out by pickle after a run scored I imagine
Squandering big leads in Game 2 of the series is becoming a bad habit we need to kick!
It's like we get complacent and lose the killer instinct.
It's like we get complacent and lose the killer instinct.
You can't score on a force out, doesn't matter when. If you want to argue that it wasn't a force because of the running, then again, have a baserunning pass someone else to eliminate the force anytime it will happen.
I thought he caught it too and the run should not have counted. Just trying to rationalize why we got the result we did
What? Bases loaded with fewer than two outs you can have a force anywhere.
The only place a force out will not score with bases loaded and fewer than two outs is if the play is made at home.
You are wrong. The run does not score on the force out double play. Never has, never will.
Just to be clear.
I said #1 out was a force at 3rd.
#2 out was a base running error.
If you think I'm wrong, ok.
What I'm saying is if that is the case, and the second out is a baserunning error, every team should just intentionally make a baserunning mistake when hitting a double play ball with a runner on third. It eliminates the force out and apparently means the run counts now.
How often do you think a team will have time to make a baserunning error on a typical DP ball?
Thing is the run would have scored imo regardless of the baserunning error. The DP was not of our doing. To have a team intentionally make an out makes no sense to me.
That is simply not true. If the baserunning error doesn't happen, we also get the force at 2nd. Neither runner advanced.
No, because the umpire called for the 3rd out lol. At that point, the play is over.
You just gotta FLUSH this one and move on. We can beat them tomorrow.
He only had 5 errors all year prior to this game. Three errors in one inning today was an anomaly.....probably caused by the fake turf.
Infield needs to get back to where they were earlier in the year. Some (not all) of the errors look like lack of focus.