Video Board construction holes full of water?
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shop vac they can use....shouldn't take too long and whatever it costs to pay a Mexican/Guatemalan/Howard Industries employee to stand there and do it.
water would have still gotten in there...Ground is saturated and would have just seeped through. Not so much the water in the holes, you can pump those in an hour or 2, its the ground being mush. 1 week isnt killing this deal...you can stage material and do all kinds of other things at this time.
You can sand-bag around the outer edges of the hole. Then lay a plastic tarp on top of that.
Yes you may get some seepage from below grade, but not to cover it up at all is just plain ridiculous. I have used this practice in the field myself and it works.
Hell we did it thru three hurricanes here in Florida a few years ago.
I just want to know if they made any attempt to cover it up?
Yes you may get some seepage from below grade, but not to cover it up at all is just plain ridiculous. I have used this practice in the field myself and it works.
Hell we did it thru three hurricanes here in Florida a few years ago.
I just want to know if they made any attempt to cover it up?
I may have no idea what I am talking about, but if they just poured those concrete columns, then being underwater for a week is a GOOD thing. You are supposed to "cure" concrete for at least a week if not longer by keeping it good and wet. I have seen contractors pour a slab in the hottest part of the summer and not put any water on the slab and then start framing within a couple days of pouring thinking that it was ready. When you do not cure concrete then you get cracks. The water in the holes are not as big of a problem as you are making them out to be.
as well as weeped in from the walls of the holes? Unless a hole is on the peak of hill, water will from the surrounding area will drain into it -- it's called a watershed.
In Florida drive sona tubes into the sand and pour concrete directly into the opening, displacing any water inside the tube.
This place can only be good at one thing and construction review is not one of them.
Nice, Howard Industries stab in there Porkchop.
Nice, Howard Industries stab in there Porkchop.
If they posted above, then <span style="font-style: italic;">they</span> obviously havent been around very many construction sites lately because <span style="font-style: italic;">they</span> would know that nobody secures construction sites worth a damn anymore.
You are assuming a civil engineer is overseeing this project? Is is the same one that created malfunction junction or the was teamed with for the Hunter Henry Center?
You are assuming a civil engineer is overseeing this project? Is is the same one that created malfunction junction or the was teamed with for the Hunter Henry Center?
If that is really the hole and the concrete hasn't been poured yet, then the concrete is going to displace the water, it's a none issue.
im just laughing at the thought of the "project manager" introducing himself as an engineer. That would be hilarious.
McMeat said:
I must have missed the thread, but I'm assuming by a lot of these posts lately that Greg Byrne has become the new Chuck Norris.
some of you are acting like some real bitches.
next time it is going to rain, I am going to dig a 3' deep hole 18" in diam., I am going to sandbag around the mother<17>er, & cover it w/ a tarp, & when it is done raining I will report back.
Look, that general contractor is going to bring a 500hp, turbo charged trash pump, w/ about an 8" discharge, out to the site, & in about 4 hours have all those holes sucked dry.
Their biggest hold up is probably going to be in waiting for the areas around the holes to crust over enough that it becomes workable again for transporting materials, moving around the site & such. It will dry enough in a day to become safe enough to work on, & progress will resume.
This rain hurt them more from the standpoint that they just lost about 8 days of worktime where they could have had all the concrete poured, & could have probably already had a steel erection crew on site
The last thing they are worried about is water in a little 'ol hole
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next time it is going to rain, I am going to dig a 3' deep hole 18" in diam., I am going to sandbag around the mother<17>er, & cover it w/ a tarp, & when it is done raining I will report back.
Look, that general contractor is going to bring a 500hp, turbo charged trash pump, w/ about an 8" discharge, out to the site, & in about 4 hours have all those holes sucked dry.
Their biggest hold up is probably going to be in waiting for the areas around the holes to crust over enough that it becomes workable again for transporting materials, moving around the site & such. It will dry enough in a day to become safe enough to work on, & progress will resume.
This rain hurt them more from the standpoint that they just lost about 8 days of worktime where they could have had all the concrete poured, & could have probably already had a steel erection crew on site
The last thing they are worried about is water in a little 'ol hole
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The water that fell directly into the hole is the least of the water that's in the hole. What do you think happens to all the water that falls on to earth? Does it all collect into streams and run to the ocean? No, is seeps underground, fills water tables, collects in springs, underground aqueducts, and holes dug by construction equipment.
1. Water will be displaced by the concrete so it shouldn't matter. If it is an issue they can adjust the mix (admixtures) to compensate - there are concrete mixes that set underwater.
2. A typical trailer mounted dewatering/bypass vacuum pump will pump 2500 GPM max. at around 120-feet of head. From looking at that picture of the formed pile foundation it looks to be about a 12-foot diameter. At 40-feet deep the volume would be around 4525 cubic feet or 33,850 gallons if the "hole" was completely full. Therefore it would take less than 2-minutes to pump out the pile foundation.
If there is a hold up it is more likely that the engineer didn't account for groundwater infiltration and/or rainfall inflow and there is not a pay item in the bid for dewatering operations. That would mean a change order, which could take some time depending on how much of a pissing match the client and the engineer get into (i.e. who will pay for it).
Of course I am only going on what I read in this thread so I probably have a 0.01% chance of being correct.
2. A typical trailer mounted dewatering/bypass vacuum pump will pump 2500 GPM max. at around 120-feet of head. From looking at that picture of the formed pile foundation it looks to be about a 12-foot diameter. At 40-feet deep the volume would be around 4525 cubic feet or 33,850 gallons if the "hole" was completely full. Therefore it would take less than 2-minutes to pump out the pile foundation.
If there is a hold up it is more likely that the engineer didn't account for groundwater infiltration and/or rainfall inflow and there is not a pay item in the bid for dewatering operations. That would mean a change order, which could take some time depending on how much of a pissing match the client and the engineer get into (i.e. who will pay for it).
Of course I am only going on what I read in this thread so I probably have a 0.01% chance of being correct.
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