Walker Jones interview
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The "right' guys for that kind of money don't lose three games with that schedule.
Agree. It always seems to be an issue with them. Back during the Freeze days they could get the right mix to win signing day, but many didn’t necessarily have what it took mentally as well as a motor that would run every game. Got up when the spotlight was on and could beat anybody, but prone to letdowns from being checked out against lesser competition.
They’ve won 38 games in 4 years. Maybe 39. I think it’s safe to say they’re doing a whole lot more things right than we are. Maybe a little less laughing at them & a little more learning from them would be smart.
" I think it’s safe to say they’re doing a whole lot more things right than we are."
Who's not ?
Rough math here...the best 4-year span in our ENTIRE HISTORY is 34 wins (2012-2015).
Yet the same fans who view OM winning 38+ games over 4 years as a failure will call 2012-2015 our Golden Years.
I was only making a statement about OM' 2024 team being worth what they spent and not in any way attempting to compare our programs. I personally think they underachieved.......and so do 99% of OM folks.
Here's the thread
Listen to the Walker Jones segment of Out of Bounds, Thursday show - On3
He gives some details on managing their collective. He talks about the house v ncaa settlement. He acknowledged OM spent approximately $14 million on their current roster. He says it takes $9-10 million to have a team of top 15 talent. basketball takes about $5milliom to have ncaa...
I think this is a situation where both your and thatsbaseball’s statements can be true.
I hear you, but 14-17M may not even put them in the top 15 of NIL payrolls this year. As much as I hate them, they bought guys that gave them a chance to compete with the big boys, and they were a play or two away from making the CFP which I think is about all you can hope for as an OM fan. They’re not nor will they ever be Georgia, Texas, Bama, etc, but they’re just good enough to trick some of their fans into thinking they could be for a year or two.
I’d kill for an ounce of the hope that their fans have
Why do these threads always go down the path of "we should be copying them?" They have one of the best coaches in college football and he's been there for 5 years. Say what you want but it isn't just that they are paying more. They have an established foundation with at least perceived stability. Hiring a great coach and getting them to stay for several years isn't something you can "copy." You think every school in the country isn't trying to copy that model? Problem is, it isn't just something you can decide to do.....
Now, on the flip side... Long term there will eventually be a letdown. You can't build one year teams over and over and over without missing eventually. Happened to Jackie when we were doing the same thing with the JuCo system. Once you have a disappointing year or two, people are going to think twice about giving that much money to build $15M+ rosters each year. That on an annual basis is not sustainable for a school like Ole Miss, and most certainly would not be sustainable for us either.
If this article is valid (which I have no idea) then OM spent with the top 5.
Ranking every College Football Playoff team by NIL collectives
Name, Image, and Likeness, or NIL, broke through college athletics a few years ago, and it has only become one of the most
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They also were set to make a playoff run this year and spent a boatload of money to do so. That with the easy *** schedule they had should have easily had them in the playoffs. Yet they lost to three unranked teams to instead get to play duke in a meaningless bowl game.
It is ok to laugh at them. They sure as hell would be laughing at us
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Ha. Funny reading that. What have bribes gone up to this year ????.... $10.5 million for a HS QB. $8 for two years for the Tulane QB to Duke.
We are now talking $20m-30m payroll this season. Wow.
It will be interesting to see if NIL offers drop once revenue sharing payments kicks in.
We are now talking $20m-30m payroll this season. Wow.
It will be interesting to see if NIL offers drop once revenue sharing payments kicks in.
Yeah, but I’d say that the fact that OM isn’t even listed here is just another example of the fact that no one truly has a clue as to what’s being spentIf this article is valid (which I have no idea) then OM spent with the top 5.
Ranking every College Football Playoff team by NIL collectives
Name, Image, and Likeness, or NIL, broke through college athletics a few years ago, and it has only become one of the mostnittanylionswire.usatoday.com
What I do know is that a hundred or so colleges are about to start spending $23M/yr + NIL on rosters next fall, and there is just no way in hell that I’m ever going to believe that a school like ASU is outspending the likes of LSU, A&M, and Michigan or that those schools are “only” rustling up $5-8M for NIL in the current environment.
Maybe I end up being proven dead wrong, but it won’t be long before these details are finally public, and I’m betting that you’d have to spend $10M+ just to crack the Top 25
It’s worth it. Absolutely without question. And as much as I hate it, they’ll be right back in contention next year.
Maybe we should get a better coach & raise some more money then. Who could possibly think doing things like a very successful program that historically wasn’t that much different than us until the NIL era is doing wouldnt be a good idea?
Laugh all you want. But I’m pretty envious of them. Even with the 3 losses. But we’re too damn stupid to even realize how much they’re burying us in this NIL era.
You can be envious of where they are while also laughing at them blowing a golden opportunity. I would kill to be where they are right now. They still severely underachieved this year
I realize how far ahead they were this past year in NIL spending. I realize how far their coach is ahead of ours as far as experience. The gaps will close a little this year. I am jealous of where they were in the rankings this year. That gap should close a little this year, too.
We need to be better, at everything. Spending more, player recruitment, player development, staff changes, coaching decisions. Gameday atmosphere. Everything.
But admitting those facts does not preclude me from laughing when Ole Miss falls short of their expectations, as they undoubtedly did this year. My schadenfreude will never stop when it comes to them. Am I immature and petty? Yes and yes.
Here you go. My interview w Walker
9-26-24 Walker Jones - Head of The Grove Collective: How much it costs to compete for a CFBALL Playoff birth & what’s next in NIL?‼️
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