Watson gets 11 games

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The NFL (Goodell) tried not to look stupid by having an independent arbiter decide his case - still looks stupid when they appeal to themselves.
 
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American bulldog where are you at with all your predictions that were wrong?
 

18IsTheMan

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The NFL (Goodell) tried not to look stupid by having an independent arbiter decide his case - still looks stupid when they appeal to themselves.

Yeah, that's what I don't get with this. The NFLPA agreed to the arrangement, but I can't imagine why they would agree to an arrangement that basically gives Goodell unilateral control. Per their agreement, Goodell could have arbitrated it himself. Instead he handpicked an arbiter, obviously giving that person marching orders to issued the punishment Goodell wanted.

Wonder if Watson will just take it and let it go or if he and the NFLPA will sue.
 

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Yeah, that's what I don't get with this. The NFLPA agreed to the arrangement, but I can't imagine why they would agree to an arrangement that basically gives Goodell unilateral control. Per their agreement, Goodell could have arbitrated it himself. Instead he handpicked an arbiter, obviously giving that person marching orders to issued the punishment Goodell wanted.

Wonder if Watson will just take it and let it go or if he and the NFLPA will sue.
The NFLpa and Watson agreed to it. I mean it’s11 games and 5 million which is a literal drop in the bucket to the contract he just signed. He only makes 1 million this year so that’s only about 600k in game salary and a 5 mil fine. He’ll probably be ok with the money situation.
 

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Nightmare for the NFL - If the Browns can win just enough to make the playoffs here comes Watson at the end to take them to the superbowl.
 
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The NFLpa and Watson agreed to it. I mean it’s11 games and 5 million which is a literal drop in the bucket to the contract he just signed. He only makes 1 million this year so that’s only about 600k in game salary and a 5 mil fine. He’ll probably be ok with the money situation.

I guess it's a compromise. Goodell still didn't get the full season or financial penalties he wanted. Watson and the NFLPA likely would have sued over a full season and probably would have won that lawsuit.
 

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Where is that guy that kept running his pipes about a whole season suspended….GUARANTEED. I want to here his Joe Biden spin on this ruling.
 

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Where is that guy that kept running his pipes about a whole season suspended….GUARANTEED. I want to here his Joe Biden spin on this ruling.

He joined July 31st of this year, and disappeared after the Watson announcement.

I think a new posting handle is in that guys future, if it wasn't a second, trolling handle to begin with.
 

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I think he got bad advice or poor legal representation. If the grand jury failed to have enough evidence to indict on criminal charges, why in the world would you settle In civil court. And then maintain you are innocent. Personally! I’m not going to take the blame/credit for something I didn’t do. Some of you attorneys weigh in and tell us what you think.
 

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I think he got bad advice or poor legal representation. If the grand jury failed to have enough evidence to indict on criminal charges, why in the world would you settle In civil court. And then maintain you are innocent. Personally! I’m not going to take the blame/credit for something I didn’t do. Some of you attorneys weigh in and tell us what you think.
Because sometimes it’s just better to pay for them to go away. Innocent or not. A settlement is not an admission of guilt.
 

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Because sometimes it’s just better to pay for them to go away. Innocent or not. A settlement is not an admission of guilt.
He stands on his innocence, then apologized for something he didn’t do??? Then turns back around and stands on his innocence. This is getting out of hand, the kid needs some strong men who have his best interest at heart looking out for him. He’s def surrounded by yes men it seems
 

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Because civil cases don't need the level of proof that a criminal case does, so losing is a possibility. And the risk of losing tons of cash is probably worth the small payout a settlement is worth.
I wouldn't give a dollar away if I know I'm innocent, no matter how much money I got.
 

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Im not advocating for watson but why would you give your money away like that?
Because when you make 245 million in 5 years that is like paying a bum $10 to go away.

We will likely never know the amount but I bet they all got less than $100,000.
 

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He stands on his innocence, then apologized for something he didn’t do??? Then turns back around and stands on his innocence. This is getting out of hand, the kid needs some strong men who have his best interest at heart looking out for him. He’s def surrounded by yes men it seems
He did not apologize for sexual assault or anything of the such. Listen to his words.
 

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He did not apologize for sexual assault or anything of the such. Listen to his words.

This. As was mentioned to that poster who disappeared, his words were carefully crafted by a lawyer to express remorse yet admit to nothing in particular.
 

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Yeah I figured you meant that, and I disagree, I believe we are talking prob 4-500 thousand per case
I don’t see it due to lack of evidence and 2 grand juries but you maybe right. Even then that’s 12 million out of 200 for easy numbers. I would settle all day. I can make 12 in interest off the rest.
 

ToddFlanders

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I think he got bad advice or poor legal representation. If the grand jury failed to have enough evidence to indict on criminal charges, why in the world would you settle In civil court. And then maintain you are innocent. Personally! I’m not going to take the blame/credit for something I didn’t do. Some of you attorneys weigh in and tell us what you think.

As a former litigator I can tell you that there is nothing worse than litigation (for the clients that is - it's great for the lawyers!). His lawyer bills would be outrageous and there's always the possibility that you lose no matter how strong the case. If he could see that his case would get past the summary judgment phase (essentially where there is enough meat on the bones that a judge wouldn't just dismiss the case for lack of evidence or lack of a cause of action), then he's looking at a fight that even if he "won" he would still look bad from the allegations presented (true or not) or cash he would have to pay to attorneys.

He probably paid out what he was going to have to pay in lawyer bills, or a little more. Even so, paying for a specific outcome is better than gambling with going to trial.
 

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For some reason, I still don't think this is going away just yet. Lots of backlash from many angles.
Very strange the NFL settled on an 11 game suspension making his 1st game eligible being in Houston of all places.
 
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For some reason, I still don't think this is going away just yet. Lots of backlash from many angles.
Very strange the NFL settled on an 11 game suspension making his 1st game eligible being in Houston of all places.
You see it as strange? That will be the most watched game and probably one that’s very important to Deshaun as well. He approached it from the stand point he wasn’t willing to give up playing them and the league saw dollar signs. The reason for the appeal was because court of public opinion felt like he got off to light. Screw the court of public opinion. It doesn’t have any principles.
 

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Maybe the opposite - the most boycotted/protested game. The only importance I see for Watson is flaunting the fact that he got away with it in front of his many victims in person in the same city where it all took place.
 
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I think the 11 games fell right inbetween the original 6 games and a full season. Pretty much a split right in the middle, and the coincidence of Houston falling there on the schedule too made it too easy.

The NFL probably (secretly) loves the idea of his first game back being against his old team. Drama sells.
 

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Maybe the opposite - the most boycotted/protested game. The only importance I see for Watson is flaunting the fact that he got away with it in front of his many victims in person in the same city where it all took place.
I don’t understand how some people can say he’s guilty without any viable evidence.

Got away with what exactly hiring a hooker off Facebook? Getting a message? Because other than that there is no evidence of anything further to prove wrong doing and he has maintained his innocence this whole time.
 

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The NFL obviously thinks he is guilty. In addition to the missed games and the money, he is also ordered to be under the care and evaluation of a third party mental health expert and must follow his orders/guidance and any failure to meet the required treatment can result in additional suspension and fines. I'm sure the question of innocence will come up as part of the evaluation of his mental health by the expert, as admission of the problem is key to treatment, and may be a roadblock in the successful completion of treatment. This is why many who have studied the agreement feel it is too early to say this is over.
 
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Lurker123

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Not really sure what point you see then.

Not to speak for him, but I think he was speaking of this point:

I wouldn't give a dollar away if I know I'm innocent, no matter how much money I got.

It's a good sentiment, but a risky one, even if people involved were innocent.
 

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Not to speak for him, but I think he was speaking of this point:

I wouldn't give a dollar away if I know I'm innocent, no matter how much money I got.

It's a good sentiment, but a risky one, even if people involved were innocent.
It’s real easy for you to say that when your not in the situation but it’s just not usually how the real world works. Sometimes it’s just better to make things go away.

You say it as it because he settled he’s guilty. That just can’t be further from the truth.
 

Lurker123

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It’s real easy for you to say that when your not in the situation but it’s just not usually how the real world works. Sometimes it’s just better to make things go away.

You say it as it because he settled he’s guilty. That just can’t be further from the truth.

You quoted me, but I think you meant that reply for Tophook, right?

Edit: I know, that's what I get for trying to speak for someone else.
 
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