We are badly out of shape, mainly from all the practices in the Palmeiro Center. Also, Greg Byrne is getting all the emails, reading them and plans on responding to as many as he can.
We had about 8 guys on IVs at half time.
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We are badly out of shape, mainly from all the practices in the Palmeiro Center. Also, Greg Byrne is getting all the emails, reading them and plans on responding to as many as he can.
You have to play the damn games out in the heat, rain, etc. so you may as well practice in it to be ready. I do realize thought that if you have a situation like we do now where it's rained for several days, you do need to work inside some of those days. But you may as well go ahead and practice in the heat and occasional rain.
I disagree with the thought that practice didn't condition your guys enough. In my opinion, these days conditioning is taken care of in the summer. Most guys get in shape in the summer, and that way you can spend your time working on the mental aspects of the game during fall practice rather than busting your players to get them in shape.
Nutt went fairly light on our guys this fall. We didn't even have true 2-a-days, and our longest practices were around 2 and a half hours typically, and we had no one on IVs during or after the game. I would blame it more on your S&C coach for not getting them in shape over the summer.
Nutt went fairly light on our guys this fall. We didn't even have true 2-a-days, and our longest practices were around 2 and a half hours typically, and we had no one on IVs during or after the game. I would blame it more on your S&C coach for not getting them in shape over the summer.
I wonder if the mild August has anything to do with it? This August was one of the coolest ones I can remember in recent years. Nothing drains you like a hot, humid August afternoon - but we didn't have any of those after the first weekend. So maybe the conditioning drills this year were the same as last year, but the conditions were a lot easier??
Or maybe Croom thought his team was ready to be SEC champs after one winning season and got soft on them....
Or maybe Croom thought his team was ready to be SEC champs after one winning season and got soft on them....
much more in condition than LA Tech. They were cramping and only 1 quality player deep in most positions. And that makes it all the more infuriating that we didn't lean on them hard 3rd and 4th qtr. I am convinced that we would have come out on the plus side of the damn game. You can also lay a lot of the dehydration on the same-day airplane ride. I think that's is about a quart's worth of water that they lost same day.....just hours before kick-off. There were also some young adults on that plane who had never flown before..... let's not even talk about anxiety and just plain out fear to divert focus from the game. Just not too damn smart on the part of anyone in charge.
Better conditioned???? Are you serious? What game were you watching? You may have more talent and more depth, but your guys WERE NOT in better condition. How many first downs did you pick up in the fourth quarter?Spotdawg said:
Fact. Also, you are dead on Spotdog. The same day travel was discussed and a huge mistake. It won't happen again.
we can't get the upper-echelon recruits to come to poor old State unless we get a state-of-the-art indoor practice facility. We get one. Have the audacity to use it, and now we aren't used to playing in the heat (despite whatever Godforsaken conditions our players have lived in their entire lives) and we fold like a $50 suit down the stretch BECAUSE of it?
jakldawg said:
Probably has more to do with summer strength and conditioning workouts than where the team practices.
not practicing in the heat, fatass, etc. and they won 8 games. it's amazing what losing to la tech will bring out in the fandom.
Umm I completely disagree with you from my own experience.RebelBruiser said:
1.) Have you ever been inside and compared it to the outside? Practicing indoors in an AIR CONDITIONED facility is completey different than walking outside and immediately sweating. Summer time practice cannot keep you in shape long enough to avoid IVs in a football game. So think about it a little bit have you ever ran inside a courthouse and ran at a park. Its entirely different. The courthouse you can run 2 miles with a minor sweat. Running at the park you can run 2 miles and be dehydrated for days thats exactly what happened to our team at some point Saturday night.
2.) Considering Ole Miss had no one on IVs is a direct response to the *** whipping ya'll gave Memphis. Ole Miss was allowed to substitute and not worry about wearing down their players. Also the coach at Ole Miss is Houston Nutt not Sly Croom. So theres a difference in why players are struggling and not struggling. A good coach will rotate at the expense of the players needs. Seeing Robert Elliott not play is a negative sign. Croom not having enough faith in playing the guy shows that he does not have enough faith in half the other freshman/sophmores that didn't play. He will rely way too heavily on the starters and the immediate back ups which overall will wear them down unneccesarily.
3.) I think you need to exercise. Learn from personal experience not just working your fat fingers on the keyboard a
Umm I completely disagree with you from my own experience.RebelBruiser said:
1.) Have you ever been inside and compared it to the outside? Practicing indoors in an AIR CONDITIONED facility is completey different than walking outside and immediately sweating. Summer time practice cannot keep you in shape long enough to avoid IVs in a football game. So think about it a little bit have you ever ran inside a courthouse and ran at a park. Its entirely different. The courthouse you can run 2 miles with a minor sweat. Running at the park you can run 2 miles and be dehydrated for days thats exactly what happened to our team at some point Saturday night.
2.) Considering Ole Miss had no one on IVs is a direct response to the *** whipping ya'll gave Memphis. Ole Miss was allowed to substitute and not worry about wearing down their players. Also the coach at Ole Miss is Houston Nutt not Sly Croom. So theres a difference in why players are struggling and not struggling. A good coach will rotate at the expense of the players needs. Seeing Robert Elliott not play is a negative sign. Croom not having enough faith in playing the guy shows that he does not have enough faith in half the other freshman/sophmores that didn't play. He will rely way too heavily on the starters and the immediate back ups which overall will wear them down unneccesarily.
3.) I think you need to exercise. Learn from personal experience not just working your fat fingers on the keyboard... and please put down that bag of potato chips you have in your hands.
4.) I'm directly quoting these 3 words from you and adding my own flavor to it.
"In my opinion," you are a 17ing nerd.
Don't get so offended, and for your information I work out 3-4 days a week, every week, sometimes inside and sometimes outside. But this is the internet, so that really doesn't matter, and I don't know why you brought it up.
Anyway, I do understand that practicing inside versus outside makes a difference in how tired you get. I was never arguing that. My point again is that these days you don't have to use fall camp for conditioning. Your summer program should do all the necessary conditioning for you and fall camp and game week practices should be about learning and about maintaining condition for games. We just got rid of a coach that thought that fall camp and game week were the time to physically push your team to the limit, and guess what, we consistently played games with dead legs.
Anyway, I do understand that practicing inside versus outside makes a difference in how tired you get. I was never arguing that. My point again is that these days you don't have to use fall camp for conditioning. Your summer program should do all the necessary conditioning for you and fall camp and game week practices should be about learning and about maintaining condition for games. We just got rid of a coach that thought that fall camp and game week were the time to physically push your team to the limit, and guess what, we consistently played games with dead legs.
The sad thing is, what you call a workout is likely a "nice" stroll on the hampster wheelRebelBruiser said:
The IV thing isn't all the uncommon, even at professional levels of sports. You can get to the point where you just can't replenish water and electrolytes fast enough by drinking them.
beachbumdawg said:
Nice comeback. I'm no Derrick Dunn, but I'm also not a lazyass. I didn't really want to get into this, since no one really cares, and it's lame to even talk about, but obviously you want to know. I run 3-4 days a week and I lift weights for an hour a day 2-3 days a week. I have a family though, which means I don't get to keep a consistent schedule, but I still get in my work each week.
I'm still not sure why any of that is relevant though, or why you'd even care to talk smack about that, when the original conversation was about conditioning for football teams.
Do you really care if someone on the computer calls you a lazy *** to where you have to give us your daily workout? Nobody here gives a ****. Why don't you take your lovers quarrel to PM.
1. It pretty much made it look like we thought we could just roll into town, kick ***, then get the hell out of Ruston.
2. Cramping is a result of bad nutrition and hydration. I'm sure the travelling on game day didn't offer a good opportunity for proper pre game meals, fluids, and rest.
2. Cramping is a result of bad nutrition and hydration. I'm sure the travelling on game day didn't offer a good opportunity for proper pre game meals, fluids, and rest.
flying wears my *** out even if its only an hour flight. I am not too fond of it and I can only imagine how some some of the players react to it.
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