Weigh in now on the basketball coaching hires

She Mate Me

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Good job or bad job by Cohen and cohorts on each?

I think Jans is a good hire and I think his first 5 years will be much better than Howland. Outside chance he gets us to a Sweet 16 in that span.

I think Purcell is a great hire who will have us in at least 2 Sweet Sixteens and one Elite 8 in his first 5 years.
 

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I’m interested in everyone’s take on what will
Be a successful ‘22-‘23 season for Jan’s and MSU basketball.
I’d love to say make the NCAA but without seeing our roster I’m not sure.
20-25 wins tho would be a great start.
 

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Jans - A
Purcell - B-, could go significantly up or down though.
 

She Mate Me

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I’m interested in everyone’s take on what will
Be a successful ‘22-‘23 season for Jan’s and MSU basketball.
I’d love to say make the NCAA but without seeing our roster I’m not sure.
20-25 wins tho would be a great start.

To me they both get a pass in Season 1, but maintaining some of the core of each team, holding on to good recruits and adding a solid transfer or 3 seems important to get off to a solid start.
 

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Good job or bad job by Cohen and cohorts on each?

I think Jans is a good hire and I think his first 5 years will be much better than Howland. Outside chance he gets us to a Sweet 16 in that span.

I think Purcell is a great hire who will have us in at least 2 Sweet Sixteens and one Elite 8 in his first 5 years.

Since I was raked over the coals in my previous post, can someone tell me how Jans is a much better offensive coach than Howland?

Cohen went and got the air raid guy for our football program, why couldn't he go get a transition/fast-pace guy for the basketball program? That may be the only thing that gets butts in the seats at the Hump.

I support the basketball program. I've left a lot of games in complete frustration too many times to count in the last 10 yrs. If Jans can recruit some pure shooters and a true point guard, I'm all in. And if it's a half court, half *** offense, so be it. Just win.
 

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Those expectations are lofty for Purcell. I think he’ll do great things here but SEC womens basketball is a juggernaut right now with all of the great coaches in the league.
 

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Those expectations are lofty for Purcell. I think he’ll do great things here but SEC womens basketball is a juggernaut right now with all of the great coaches in the league.

Maybe so, but we have a fan base that has proven they will support a charismatic coach. If he is in what he seems to be, it won't take much to get the fan base excited again.

Make your predictions.

ETA it warms my heart to see that 4,900 fans enjoyed Vic and the Texas women advancing to the Sweet 16 knowing a packed out 10k Hump sent his last MSU team into the 2019 Sweet Sixteen.
 
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Good job or bad job by Cohen and cohorts on each?

I think Jans is a good hire and I think his first 5 years will be much better than Howland. Outside chance he gets us to a Sweet 16 in that span.

I think Purcell is a great hire who will have us in at least 2 Sweet Sixteens and one Elite 8 in his first 5 years.

I don't follow basketball as much as baseball and Football, but I always tune in to any sport at MSU when a new coach is hired.
I usually follow the team for a couple of years, and did with Howland.
I think he gave more false hope than actual hope but at least elevated the program beyond the curse of the Rick Ray years.

Here's to Jans being successful at state, and hope he has the chance to do some great things with the program.
 

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I’m interested in everyone’s take on what will
Be a successful ‘22-‘23 season for Jan’s and MSU basketball.
I’d love to say make the NCAA but without seeing our roster I’m not sure.
20-25 wins tho would be a great start.

Not sure on making the NCAA but you’d like 20-25 wins to start? Are we playing the entire SWAC as our out of conference schedule?
 

Dawg1976

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I think both hires were good. No clue if either will be as successful as we would like.
 

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Listening to the Jans’ interview and I was really impressed with his genuineness.. I really like him, seems like he’s a great guy, so I’m positive he’ll do a terrible job here at State.
 

curseddawgs

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I agree but getting fan buy in does not translate to success in March as we saw with Stansbury
 

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The captain obvious answer to this is...it's way too early to know anything about either of them. One can only have hope, at this point.
 

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The men’s search was executed brilliantly, Cohen was obviously very prepared. I don’t think Purcell was our first choice with the women’s search, I think the initial target was Karl Smesko and then we pivoted after he didn’t show much interest, but Purcell is still a good candidate.

I think Jans has a higher floor and Purcell might have a higher ceiling. But Jans potentially has a lot less of a rebuild to do and if he can keep the bulk of our roster together could win pretty quick. Probably gonna take 2-3 years for Purcell to really see results.
 

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Main thing is getting the hump the way it was 20 years ago. I think they need to move some students around and put them in camera shot and more courtside. I think that will help out with mens. All the big donors who buy those seats rarely show. Big donors should want the students close. A crazy environment makes the program more successful.
 

She Mate Me

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The men’s search was executed brilliantly, Cohen was obviously very prepared. I don’t think Purcell was our first choice with the women’s search, I think the initial target was Karl Smesko and then we pivoted after he didn’t show much interest, but Purcell is still a good candidate.

I think Jans has a higher floor and Purcell might have a higher ceiling. But Jans potentially has a lot less of a rebuild to do and if he can keep the bulk of our roster together could win pretty quick. Probably gonna take 2-3 years for Purcell to really see results.

I get the impression often on here that folks think the women's team was not nearly as good as the men's team this year. I guess that's a function of how far the women have fallen, but these were pretty similar teams.

The woman actually only had one truly bad loss all season (Troy) and considering the injuries and issues they faced, they had a pretty solid season.

I don't think Purcell faces a more difficult job than Jans.
 

IBleedMaroonDawg

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I think we made good hires for both coaching positions but I think we need a temper our expectations on the men's side. With all the changes in the sport recently like the NIL and transfer portal it's really gonna become a "blue blood" game in the future and only the big name programs are gonna be there every year. I'm not saying we can't have a good run every now and then and make trips to the NCAA often just don't think we're going to be challenging Kentucky for the top spot in the SEC every year. Then again I don't even know if the blue bloods can expect to be there every year now.
 

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Idk enough about Purcell to make educated guess.

I’m hopeful that Jans will get us back to the tourney every other year. His track record is good at the places he’s been. He also won’t have to deal with a complete rebuild like Howland did. I think he’ll be motivated to prove that his public mistake doesn’t define him. At least that’s what my mindset would be in his situation. Put me down for saying he’s successful.
 

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Give me a decently exciting brand of basketball and give me a skinny, white pornstache assassin like the dude that gut shot Kentucky.
 

dawgstudent

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I'll give credit where it's due - Cohen did a pretty good job on the hires.
 

dawgnabit

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I have been hard on Cohen in the past but both hires look excellent on paper. Really all of his hired have looked good on paper. The only one that was really a head scratcher brought us a national championship. But Jans has won everywhere he’s been and Purcell has been the right hand guy of a very successful and sustainable program. Hard to pick holes at either
 

thekimmer

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Seem to be solid hires on paper....

Good job or bad job by Cohen and cohorts on each?

I think Jans is a good hire and I think his first 5 years will be much better than Howland. Outside chance he gets us to a Sweet 16 in that span.

I think Purcell is a great hire who will have us in at least 2 Sweet Sixteens and one Elite 8 in his first 5 years.

No reason not to be optimistic at this point.
 
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