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[PrestonyteParrot]

Looking for 2 more gamblers to join in.

Boise State among 4 joining Pac-12 for 2026-27

Boise State, Colorado State, San Diego State and Fresno State will join the Pac-12 in the 2026-27 academic year, they announced Thursday.

www.espn.com

 

[18IsTheMan]

So the MWC is gutted.

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

So the MWC is gutted.

Why not just absorb the whole conference?
Utah and BYU at a minimum as the next to join?

 

[uscphan]

Money, it’s always about the money.

 

[uscphan]

BYU and Utah are in the Big 12.

 

[muscleknight]

Clemson and FSU they need you.

 

[Johnny She Said]

Surely Hawaii gets an invite right!?!... who's more PACific than those guys

 

[18IsTheMan]

That will leave the MWC with:
San Jose State
UNLV
Hawai'i
Utah State
Nevada
New Mexico State
Wyoming
Air Force

With that collection of schools, it's hard to even justify G5 status.

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

BYU and Utah are in the Big 12.

I'm blaming that on brain age deficiency.

 

[Uscg1984]

That will leave the MWC with:
San Jose State
UNLV
Hawai'i
Utah State
Nevada
New Mexico State
Wyoming
Air Force

With that collection of schools, it's hard to even justify G5 status.

Not that it matters much, but I think it's New Mexico, rather than NM State that remains. NM State is in C-USA. Perhaps the MWC could poach NM State and UTEP from C-USA. It would certainly be a better geographic fit for them, but I have no idea what the C-USA TV contract looks like.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Not that it matters much, but I think it's New Mexico, rather than NM State that remains. NM State is in C-USA. Perhaps the MWC could poach NM State and UTEP from C-USA. It would certainly be a better geographic fit for them, but I have no idea what the C-USA TV contract looks like.

Ha, yeah, there are six "states" in the conference so got mixed up

 

[Uscg1984]

I'm blaming that on brain age deficiency.

In fairness, it's difficult to keep up with the conference changes nowadays. For example, it will take a while for me to automatically think of the ACC when I think of SMU.

 

[will110]

Why not just absorb the whole conference?
Utah and BYU at a minimum as the next to join?

The PAC "12" just took the best four members. The rest of the MWC adds zero value, or likely even reduces value.

Utah and BYU aren't leaving the Big XII for the Pac 6.

 

[18IsTheMan]

The PAC "12" just took the best four members. The rest of the MWC adds zero value, or likely even reduces value.

Utah and BYU aren't leaving the Big XII for the Pac 6.

The only remaining school from the MWC I can see as adding some value, relative to the other members, would be Air Force,. They're a fairly consistent bowl team and having a service academy adds some prestige.

 

[Johnny She Said]

"hey guys we get to go to Hawaii every other year"...could be worse.

 

[will110]

The only remaining school from the MWC I can see as adding some value, relative to the other members, would be Air Force,. They're a fairly consistent bowl team and having a service academy adds some prestige.

I didn't think about Air Force. They do have a good program.

UNLV would get them into Las Vegas, but that's just a really bad program historically.

 

[RUMMENIGGE]

Not that it matters much, but I think it's New Mexico, rather than NM State that remains. NM State is in C-USA. Perhaps the MWC could poach NM State and UTEP from C-USA. It would certainly be a better geographic fit for them, but I have no idea what the C-USA TV contract looks like.

For a geographic fit I would grab FCS schools Eastern Washington, Montana, North Dakota State and South Dakota State.

 

[atl-cock]

Money, it’s always about the money.

It wasn't always that way in D-I, but it sure is now.

 

[atl-cock]

"hey guys we get to go to Hawaii every other year"...could be worse.

Depending on the sport, you could make an annual trip there.....

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

Depending on the sport, you could make an annual trip there.....

Long way to go for a day or two.

 

[atl-cock]

Long way to go for a day or two.

Indeed it is.

 

[Uscg1984]

For a geographic fit I would grab FCS schools Eastern Washington, Montana, North Dakota State and South Dakota State.

I'd replace Eastern Washington with Montana State in your list, but I generally agree it makes sense for those schools to be in the MWC.

I can't speak to the Dakota schools, but after living in Montana for about 7 years now, I don't think Montana and Montana State care about making a jump to FBS. From what I can tell, they both seem content to sell out their 25,000 seat stadiums at pretty exorbitant prices while beating up FCS schools with smaller athletic programs than them.

 

[atl-cock]

I'd replace Eastern Washington with Montana State in your list, but I generally agree it makes sense for those schools to be in the MWC.

I can't speak to the Dakota schools, but after living in Montana for about 7 years now, I don't think Montana and Montana State care about making a jump to FBS. From what I can tell, they both seem content to sell out their 25,000 seat stadiums at pretty exorbitant prices while beating up FCS schools with smaller athletic programs than them.

I believe the universities of Idaho and Montana were, once upon a time, in a conference which preceeded the PAC-8, through the 1950s.

 

[LonghornsGamecocks]

I believe the universities of Idaho and Montana were, once upon a time, in a conference which preceeded the PAC-8, through the 1950s.

I think the PAC-8 started in the 1910s or thereabouts

 

[LonghornsGamecocks]

I'd replace Eastern Washington with Montana State in your list, but I generally agree it makes sense for those schools to be in the MWC.

I can't speak to the Dakota schools, but after living in Montana for about 7 years now, I don't think Montana and Montana State care about making a jump to FBS. From what I can tell, they both seem content to sell out their 25,000 seat stadiums at pretty exorbitant prices while beating up FCS schools with smaller athletic programs than them.

I'm in Montana at this moment on vacation. Loving it.

 

[LonghornsGamecocks]

I think the PAC-8 started in the 1910s or thereabouts

1915 it appears

 

[Dutch Cock]

Long way to go for a day or two.

We played Hawaii in 77 and 81, it was a 12 hour flight, unfortunately we took it on the choppers both times.

 

[Uscg1984]

I'm in Montana at this moment on vacation. Loving it.

I don't know what part you are in, but it's a lot nicer today here in SW Montana than it was earlier in the week. On Monday and Tuesday, the smoke was the worst it has been this summer, but the cold front that moved in last night brought a lot of rain (and snow, up high) and pushed it all out. I'm hoping the change in the weather makes the elk move around a bit more in daylight hours, so I'm taking off work tomorrow to hunt.

 

[Uscg1984]

1915 it appears

It was definitely a storied conference. Over 560 NCAA championships and produced untold numbers of olympians and pro athletes. It's sad the way all of this went down.

 

[KingWard]

Why not just absorb the whole conference?
Utah and BYU at a minimum as the next to join?

Big 12 all the way with them, I believe..

 

[atl-cock]

I think the PAC-8 started in the 1910s or thereabouts

It was called something else. Disbanded in the late 1950s and reformed into what is the PAC-xx today.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

It was called something else. Disbanded in the late 1950s and reformed into what is the PAC-xx today.

You are correct.

The Pacific Coast Conference, the predecessor to the Pac-10 included Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Cal, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Montana, and Idaho

 

[LonghornsGamecocks]

I don't know what part you are in, but it's a lot nicer today here in SW Montana than it was earlier in the week. On Monday and Tuesday, the smoke was the worst it has been this summer, but the cold front that moved in last night brought a lot of rain (and snow, up high) and pushed it all out. I'm hoping the change in the weather makes the elk move around a bit more in daylight hours, so I'm taking off work tomorrow to hunt.

I'm up in Belt, near Great Falls. Just taking it easy on a friend's ranch. We got that front and rain too. Cleared all the smoke and haze out of the air.

 

[Uscg1984]

You are correct.

The Pacific Coast Conference, the predecessor to the Pac-10 included Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Cal, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Montana, and Idaho

A couple of those destinations would have made for brutal road trips in the first half of the 20th Century. The travel time must have been nuts.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

A couple of those destinations would have made for brutal road trips in the first half of the 20th Century. The travel time must have been nuts.

It was 1959. It wasn't horse and buggy days.

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

That will leave the MWC with:
San Jose State
UNLV
Hawai'i
Utah State
Nevada
New Mexico State
Wyoming
Air Force

With that collection of schools, it's hard to even justify G5 status.

UNLV just passed their audition for Pac ?? by knocking off Kansas

 

[Uscg1984]

A couple of those destinations would have made for brutal road trips in the first half of the 20th Century. The travel time must have been nuts.

It was 1959. It wasn't horse and buggy days.

Actually, no portion of 1959 fell within the first half of the 20th Century to which I was referring.

Nonetheless, when I said the travel was brutal, I didn't mean it was literally treacherous. I was referring to the time it took to travel to places like Pullman, Moscow, and Missoula by train from places like LA or San Francisco during the early days of the conference from 1915 until probably at least WWII. It would have required traveling up to Portland or Seattle, or over to Salt Lake, and then transferring to another train (and perhaps another). I suspect also that when they arrived in those towns, they probably saw quite a number of horses and buggies during those years.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

Actually, no portion of 1959 fell within the first half of the 20th Century to which I was referring.

Nonetheless, when I said the travel was brutal, I didn't mean it was literally treacherous. I was referring to the time it took to travel to places like Pullman, Moscow, and Missoula by train from places like LA or San Francisco during the early days of the conference from 1915 until probably at least WWII. It would have required traveling up to Portland or Seattle, or over to Salt Lake, and then transferring to another train (and perhaps another). I suspect also that when they arrived in those towns, they probably saw quite a number of horses and buggies during those years.

You still do not understand that Moscow and Missoula did not join the conference until 1959.

 

[Uscg1984]

You still do not understand that Moscow and Missoula did not join the conference until 1959.

No, the Pacific Coast Conference, precursor to the modern PAC and referenced by @Longhorn's research, was established in 1915 and disbanded in 1959. Idaho was a member from 1922 - 1959, while Montana was a member from 1920 - 1950.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

No, the Pacific Coast Conference, precursor to the modern PAC and referenced by @Longhorn's research, was established in 1915 and disbanded in 1959. Idaho was a member from 1922 - 1959, while Montana was a member from 1920 - 1950.

My bad . But my research reveals Montana joined in 1924. I also found this:

By the early 1920s, bus technology had emerged from an uncomfortable, unreliable curiosity to an increasingly comfortable and inviting form of transportation.