I just don’t understand this hire at all I mean at all . He had so many other proven candidates and he decided to go with an NFL guys tabbed as the worst NFL coordinator in the business. WTF
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The only really strange point to me is that the NFL is moving toward collegiate offensive schemes. So why get someone who runs the scheme that is being phased out?
From all accounts the people in the building will love him - so that's at least correcting one of Satt's issues.
From all accounts the people in the building will love him - so that's at least correcting one of Satt's issues.
“Epic fail” is an overused cliche, but it’s perfect in this context. Shane just said earlier this week that experience matters. Who can possibly look at this guy’s record and think it’s a smart move?
That's one major question I have. Satterfield was a last-second panic hire.
We have the ability to take time with this hire to get it right, but we choose a guy who has nothing to show "successful OC" on his resume. Nothing.
I understand the personality part, but aside from saying we should trust Beamer's judgement, can anyone point to anything about Loggain's prior experience that gives us confidence?
Maybe he nailed his interview. I assume he would be interviewed in person right?
I can't imagine he wouldn't be.
FWIW, it was apparently made clear to him that we would not run the pro style offense like Satterfield did and that it would be simplified. After the UT game, Beamer noted that it was the most simplified play book we had all year. Satterfield struggled with simplifying things. If this guy can actually run a simplified pro style offense, maybe there's hope.
Does it matter… we would whine about anyone before they call their first play. Nothing like tearing people down before they even get here if it’s him.
Yes, the opinions couldn't possibly be based on his proven track record...
Everything on here is vague and I have no idea what's going on. This thread seems to be saying it's been done.
I don't think anything is done. But too many reputable folks are talking about this. To me, it seems there's too much smoke for there not to be fire. Who knows though. These things are always fluid.
You ever notice he teams in the NFL with the worst offenses and defenses have the worst players? If this guy is a great recruiter like it appears from Some AR sites….maybe that’s the big plus. Even good play callers have bad players making the plays not work.
If I were Beamer I'd let it be known that I'd listen to offers. If this is all the pathetic bargain basement support SC was willing to do I'd bolt.
There is a lot more parity in the nfl than in college, imo. I don't think it's a plus that this guy would need to out-talent people to produce, given the levels of talent we'll be going up against.
My question is, if he's thought to be a good OC, why was he fired from every NFL job or not retained? If it's believed he'd be a great OC with better talent, then why did no other team with better talent ever hire him?
You probably thought Tom Herman would be a home run hire. Playcalling success is usually related to player performnce. There are some great play callers on crappy teams. There are also bad playcallers with good personnel to hide deficiencies. We don’t know if this guy will be a success here….but it’s hard to coach in the NFL that long if u suck.
Well his resume speaks for itself…just like muschamps did
Hog fans on the Rant are saying “thank you for taking Loggain”
Well his resume proves that he sucked. Chosen as worse oc in the nfl …but I’m sure you were all in on Muschamp also
Hey Muschamp nailed the interview. The only thing that would make sense if this happens is lack of $$$ to make a quality hire.
How do you know how many proven candidates there were applying for the job? Did you see their resumes? There is a big difference between posters wishful candidates than those who have actually made an inquiry or interviewed for the job. I have no idea how many proven candidates wanted to be the oc for us and with all due respect, I doubt you do. Besides the H C has a lot more riding on his choice than either of us. We’ll both see how it works. In the meantime I’m going to reserve judgement til we know.
Maybe it was his choice. Maybe the head coach got fired so he landed elsewhere. It’s not exactly like the NFL teams he was with were contenders at the time he was there. Browns, Bears, Dolphins, Jets….all bottom feeders for many years that no coach rescued.
I won’t loose any sleep if he’s the guy unless I see another suck *** offense. Then we can whine in unison.
I've never said anything about Herman because I've never cared about him. That's a straw man argument if I've ever seen one.
As for Loggains, we have plenty of evidence to suggest the guy is a poor OC at this point. Keep blaming his players. Fine. Ask yourself this. Why hasn't he ever had a job with any teams with decent talent? The whole point of this process is to get the guy that gives you the best chance of winning. A guy that never breaks 20 ppg in the NFL over more than 5 seasons does not do that.
There were quite a few guys that the insiders have reported were in contact with us that were much better options, and Beamer said he has been impressed by the number of sitting head coaches to NFL head coaches to coordinators who have contacted him, yet this is our choice. Spin this however you want. After the comments Shane, himself, has made, this is as underwhelming as it gets.
There are some pretty good college coaches that couldn’t perform in the nfl. It’s a different animal. My wife graduated from USC and is diehard gamecock. I’m a huge Clemson fan but I’m also a Beamer fan. I see a lot of Dabo Swinney in his heart and I can tell you you need to chill out and look at the big picture. The guy turned a 3-8 team into an 8-4 team in 2 years. Dabo did it without big names because he built a culture. That’s what Shane is doing. Let him do his thing and in 5 years we’ll talk about it again
Why is it considered whining to point out his lack of success as an OC?
It was actually only 2-8 in 2020, but it was a 10 game conference schedule with no ooc patsies to add 3 wins.
If Loggains is the guy, I wonder what's taking so long? I doubt anyone else is pursuing him as an OC and we will certainly offer him substantially more than he's making as TE coach. Seems like a move that should happen fairly quickly.
It's a rumor, so we can be excited when the real announcement is made..........I hope.
Hell, I’m still waiting for the BOT overhaul. Things move at a snail’s pace in SC.
Last I saw by Shurburtt or Crawford or someone is that we were deep in negotiations. What is there to negotiate? We're offering you a better job with a substantial pay increase?
That will take an Act of God. You'd have to change our state Constitution and I have never seen a legislator vote to give themselves less power.
