on his show seems to be dead on. He said Ron is buy getting his ego stroked and is in postgame interviews talking about all the presents he received rather than turning the team around. He appears to be putting little to no emphasis on righting the ship and the team isn't oblivious to this. I think Bo is right, this team just appears to be mailing it in, if not totally then at least mostly. We've had a "that's baseball" attitude for years now, but it just seems to be escalating this season. Polk is leaving in a little over a month and the team has picked up on the fact that he is just coasting to the finish line. It would be better off for everyone if the man went ahead and left early. I doubt he will though, he'd have to forego his farewell tour.</p>
What Bo Bounds said about Polk and this team the other day
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on his show seems to be dead on. He said Ron is buy getting his ego stroked and is in postgame interviews talking about all the presents he received rather than turning the team around. He appears to be putting little to no emphasis on righting the ship and the team isn't oblivious to this. I think Bo is right, this team just appears to be mailing it in, if not totally then at least mostly. We've had a "that's baseball" attitude for years now, but it just seems to be escalating this season. Polk is leaving in a little over a month and the team has picked up on the fact that he is just coasting to the finish line. It would be better off for everyone if the man went ahead and left early. I doubt he will though, he'd have to forego his farewell tour.</p>
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BillBrasky10
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sad deal. I would have liked to have seen the guy leave on good note. Whether you people like it or not HE IS A LEGEND AT MSU. Im right with everybody that thinks he should go ahead and walk off now. His team is terrible and he obviously cannot do **** about it. I just hate to see the ole skipper going down like this. If he is going to stay then he needs give his last ounce of energy to get this team to at least win a series.
You know, the crazy thing is Polk has never had a losing season in his career.
I think he has gotten to the point where he feels like he is not going to get what he wants- Raffo as HC, going out with getting his ego stroked by MSU, and etc. and I think he's going to spend his energy sabatoging the job. If we have a 20 win season, the job is going to be less attractive, and I think he's going to encourage players to transfer or go pro like Weatherford, Turner, C. Powers and Moore.
Well, at least he doesn't talk about the NCAA as much.
I think he has gotten to the point where he feels like he is not going to get what he wants- Raffo as HC, going out with getting his ego stroked by MSU, and etc. and I think he's going to spend his energy sabatoging the job. If we have a 20 win season, the job is going to be less attractive, and I think he's going to encourage players to transfer or go pro like Weatherford, Turner, C. Powers and Moore.
Well, at least he doesn't talk about the NCAA as much.
If he honestly sabotages the job and people close to the program can verify that he is sabotaging the job (which is obviously unlikely), then his name should be removed from the stadium and we should never acknowledge him again. %+!% that.
It's pretty amazing how close Polk came to retiring with dignity. If he had stepped down after last year's CWS, he could have walked out with his head held high, instead he is quickly becoming one of the most despised "legends" in MSU history.
OK. Except for about 4 years and 10 days in 2007, Polk mailed it in. We were a very ordinary team in the regular season last year and got hot at the right time for 10 days, with a little help from Stetson (not pitching their All-American against us) and Coastal Carolina (losing their home regional that allowed us to host the super).
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MasterDawg
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laying around. Maybe someone can slip out on the field after Friday night of a weekend series and do a little correction on the batters eye.
I don't want to remember Polk for the bad times, but he isn't giving us much choice. I would estimate a good portion of the fanbase (have no idea if it is minority or majority) wishes we wouldn't have rehired Polk in 2001. It shouldn't be that way. We shouldn't resent Polk, but that's the way things are playing out.
but even the folks against it got on board quickly and he got damn near 100% support after he came back. Polk can use every excuse and cliche he wants for where he is but bottom line is he`s a whack job and did this to himself.
you have to give him credit for the good ones. Regardless of how we got there, we made it to the CWS in 2007.
last year's team was better than the 83-84 Palmeiro-Clark-Brantley teams. Sorry. I don't buy that. Those were great teams that drew a bad regional in playing at Texas in 83 (Clemens wasn't the only major league all-star on that pitching staff) and had 2 bad games in the 84 regional. Last year was an average team that got hot/lucky at the right time. There's no damn excuse for MSU to go 6 years (soon to be 7) without hosting a regional. And we didn't host one last year.
Polk gets some absolution for making the CWS last year, but it still doesn't change the fact that the team was less than an MSU team should be.
Polk gets some absolution for making the CWS last year, but it still doesn't change the fact that the team was less than an MSU team should be.
So would you say the 1996 Final Four team was not as good as the 2004 SEC Championship team? I say both teams were good.
You have to be doing something right to go to the CWS.
You have to be doing something right to go to the CWS.
Now that doesn't change the fact that it was fun, or that the team earned their trip to Omaha. However, the path we took to Omaha isn't one that typically works. We did the same thing we've done for most of Polk's current tenure - we had a sub-.500 SEC record and a decent overall record. We got a 2 seed at someone else's regional. Difference last year was we got hot, Polk managed those games a little differently, and we caught a few breaks. The team beat FSU and then Clempson, which they deserve credit for. However, that doesn't change the fact that 9 times out of 10 we come home for good after the regional round in that same scenario, which is one we routinely put ourselves in. MSU won't make consistent trips to Omaha until we start putting ourselves in a better postseason situation.
...give him credit, but 9 times out of 10, you don't get there like that. In fact, if he hadn't stepped down, we'd have been stuck with him until he did because of that trip, and that trip would've been very Drebin-esque.
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True. But just because you do something right for 10 days doesn't mean things are suddenly right with MSU baseball. I didn't know this year would be as bad as it has been (and in fairness injuries have played a factor), but I told every one of you all off-season not to expect too much from this year's team. Because things weren't right with MSU baseball despite the CWS trip last year. Can you honestly say that it wasn't painfully obvious during last year's CWS which 1 of the 8 teams didn't belong? Like it or not, there's some luck involved in the postseason. And we got lucky that Pigott pitched an unbelievable game in the regional and we drew an average Clemson team for a home super regional.</p>
We are basically saying the same thing. I agree with you things aren't right with MSU baseball but you said in your initial post that last year was average. And I say, it wasn't.
IF he had stepped down, Raffo probably would be our coach right now, and he would probably be the scapegoat instead of Polk assuming that we would have the same season that we are having right now.
But, the thing about that is we would probably be obligated to give Raffo another year or two to "be fair", and that would cause our baseball program to sink even further. So, maybe Polk staying is a blessing in some ways in the long term.
But, the thing about that is we would probably be obligated to give Raffo another year or two to "be fair", and that would cause our baseball program to sink even further. So, maybe Polk staying is a blessing in some ways in the long term.
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