What do you do if you were Jamont?...
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i would leave, likely get drafted in 2nd round and if i dont make the team, im on my way to italy
Plan A - work my *** of to be a 1st round pick this year.
Plan B - if I can't move up that far, go back to MSU and work to be a 1st round pick next year.
Plan C - if that doesn't work, then try to make an NBA team as a 2nd round pick next year.
Plan D - learn to speak Italian.
I really don't see why it would be worth it to give up on the big payday (1st round money) by coming out this year if he doesn't project to be a 1st round pick. He could cost himself millions. The risk would be that he wouldn't get 1st round money next year either, but in that case he can just go the route next year that many of you are thinking he should go this year.
Plan B - if I can't move up that far, go back to MSU and work to be a 1st round pick next year.
Plan C - if that doesn't work, then try to make an NBA team as a 2nd round pick next year.
Plan D - learn to speak Italian.
I really don't see why it would be worth it to give up on the big payday (1st round money) by coming out this year if he doesn't project to be a 1st round pick. He could cost himself millions. The risk would be that he wouldn't get 1st round money next year either, but in that case he can just go the route next year that many of you are thinking he should go this year.
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JR
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He is currently projected as a mid second round draft choice. That is close enough that he could theoretically think he could work himself up to guaranteed money next year.
By the way you wont know until June. I understand that the NBA has a rule that you can only declare one time and then change your mind. So he wont declare this year unless he is certain he isnt comming back.
Personally I think that all during the season that Jamont thought of himself as one of the top PG's in the nation and a sure No.1 draft choice. Thats probably why he didnt come back to school after the season. However as time went on and he got out of Starkville and listened to more objective opinions, he realized that he was probably a mid second round draft choice, so he came back to keep his options open.
I expect to see him next year in starkville.
By the way I think the only way Jamont is ever a 1st round draft choice is if he develops a more consistent outside shot or RADICALLY changes the way he plays the point.
The problem with him at the point is he isnt quick enough to stay in front of conventional PG's, so defense is going to be an obvious liability. He could make up for it if his assist to TO rate was like 3-1 or 4-1, or he had a killer outside shot.
But right now he doesnt. If he cant change his game to make up for the defensive liability, he should save himself some time and just to got Europe now. But its not impossible to change, so like I say I think he will be back.
By the way you wont know until June. I understand that the NBA has a rule that you can only declare one time and then change your mind. So he wont declare this year unless he is certain he isnt comming back.
Personally I think that all during the season that Jamont thought of himself as one of the top PG's in the nation and a sure No.1 draft choice. Thats probably why he didnt come back to school after the season. However as time went on and he got out of Starkville and listened to more objective opinions, he realized that he was probably a mid second round draft choice, so he came back to keep his options open.
I expect to see him next year in starkville.
By the way I think the only way Jamont is ever a 1st round draft choice is if he develops a more consistent outside shot or RADICALLY changes the way he plays the point.
The problem with him at the point is he isnt quick enough to stay in front of conventional PG's, so defense is going to be an obvious liability. He could make up for it if his assist to TO rate was like 3-1 or 4-1, or he had a killer outside shot.
But right now he doesnt. If he cant change his game to make up for the defensive liability, he should save himself some time and just to got Europe now. But its not impossible to change, so like I say I think he will be back.
But, if I were him, I would check out.
1. I would see if I could make a pro team.
2. If not, I would play in Europe.
I don't think he will work his way into a first round draft pick this year or the next. I really don't know anything about his prospects for livelihood outside of basketball. Assuming they are not that great, playing in Europe might be the best way he can earn a living. So, try to make it in the NBA for big bucks. If not, go to Europe. And if those are his best prospects, and you believe like I do that next year will make little difference in the outcome, then he might as well get into the money sooner than later.
1. I would see if I could make a pro team.
2. If not, I would play in Europe.
I don't think he will work his way into a first round draft pick this year or the next. I really don't know anything about his prospects for livelihood outside of basketball. Assuming they are not that great, playing in Europe might be the best way he can earn a living. So, try to make it in the NBA for big bucks. If not, go to Europe. And if those are his best prospects, and you believe like I do that next year will make little difference in the outcome, then he might as well get into the money sooner than later.
as a high to mid second round pick, you're at least going to a team that did not make the playoffs next year, so maybe they have some holes and you get lucky and make the team. maybe you luck up and someone gambles on you at the end of the first (not likely, i know). either way i'll be making more money than i've ever made in my life. maybe i'll live somewhere new for a few years - europe. i'll still be banking, especially compared to all those idiots that post on internet message boards (except madison eagle, of course).</p>
the draft is stacked with PGs and SGs this year, and itll be very difficult for him to be drafted in the 1st round, or in the second to a team that is a good fit.
i really dont think he will improve his game all that much if he comes back(hell he actually got WORSE in shooting and turnovers from his soph to jr year, the two things he needs to imporve), but if the draft class is weaker, he will show better and could jump up a few notches just by default of everyone else not being as good.
if he doesnt think he will be a first rounder next season though, id think he would go now. why put off the inevitable? if he is gonna go in the 2nd round no matter which draft, then better to go now than later.
i really dont think he will improve his game all that much if he comes back(hell he actually got WORSE in shooting and turnovers from his soph to jr year, the two things he needs to imporve), but if the draft class is weaker, he will show better and could jump up a few notches just by default of everyone else not being as good.
if he doesnt think he will be a first rounder next season though, id think he would go now. why put off the inevitable? if he is gonna go in the 2nd round no matter which draft, then better to go now than later.
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Goat Holder
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I'd probably take a long look at that. Then if that favored me more than the current year, I'd come back and enjoy my senior year, at the same time WORKING MY *** OFF on the court and weight room. Get the fundamentals right.
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BillBrasky10
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Test the waters this year, and find out what I need to improve on. Then come back for my senior season and hopefully improve the things pointed out in my workouts for the NBA. Get drafted after senior season, hopefully in the 1st round, if not try my best to make a team and if I don't head overseas.
I don't dispute there is a chance at that contrat. Apparently, I just think it far more remote than you do.
I just don't see how the chance of a mid-2nd round pick this year improving enough to be a late 1st round pick next year could be remote. It's probably less than 50-50, but for the difference in the payoff, it's damn well worth it to try for the big payday.
Let's look at it from a risk-reward standpoint if he stays in school:
Reward - Possible guaranteed $1.6M contract.
Risk - Lose a year of pro ball (either in the NBA for $400K or Europe for $200K or so)
Let's look at it from a risk-reward standpoint if he stays in school:
Reward - Possible guaranteed $1.6M contract.
Risk - Lose a year of pro ball (either in the NBA for $400K or Europe for $200K or so)
If he improves his shooting just a little bit he could slide into the first round. It's definantly not far fetched. Do I think he makes it in the NBA long term? No. But, if he can get a couple year's worth of guaranteed money before heading overseas then that is definantly preferred to heading overseas to begin with.
on the differing salaries and the odds on improving to the point that the pro contract is attained. You and I just disagree on the odds, not the possible outcomes.
How can the possibility of someone improving his draft position by 10-15 spots with another year of college be "remote?" He improved it by at least that much in the past year, going from projected undrafted to projected mid-second round pick. I know if I were in his shoes, the last thing I'd do is say, "I doubt I can improve my game enough to move up 10-15 spots in the draft, so I guess I'll go ahead and try to make a league minimum salary at best or go to Europe and give up on my chance for the big payday."
Law of diminishing return?
While my calculation of the risk return is pretty darn quantified, my thoughts about his chances of getting to the first round are simply a gut opinion. That's all.
While my calculation of the risk return is pretty darn quantified, my thoughts about his chances of getting to the first round are simply a gut opinion. That's all.
Put yourself in Jamont's shoes. So what if he does not make the NBA. Most of us here probably work a 9 to 5 job in some crappy town here in Mississippi. If you were 22 years old and someone told you that you could get paid $250K to play in Italy or Greece.................then you are nucking futs if you said no. That is a buttload of money to a guy like Jamont. I wish him well with whatever he decides. We were lucky to have him the last 3 years.
I would probably stay just because of the fact that there are supposedly a lot of guards this year. Odds are that if I (Jamont) did well, I would probably slip into the late first round next year.
I don't know Jamont's situation at home, though. If my family needed money, I would leave.
I don't know Jamont's situation at home, though. If my family needed money, I would leave.
I would definitely leave if I were in his shoes.
What exactly do you guys believe his other options would be if he were to say....tear an ACL next season here at State and never be able to play again? I am not saying that he can't use his degree but I am almost certain that he wouldn't start out at the money that is available in the NBA or Europe. Of course it is a gamble to shoot for the NBA now because he may not be able to get in and a great senior year in Starkville may make it happen. But it is also a gamble to not take what I would expect to be a guaranteed position overseas.
What exactly do you guys believe his other options would be if he were to say....tear an ACL next season here at State and never be able to play again? I am not saying that he can't use his degree but I am almost certain that he wouldn't start out at the money that is available in the NBA or Europe. Of course it is a gamble to shoot for the NBA now because he may not be able to get in and a great senior year in Starkville may make it happen. But it is also a gamble to not take what I would expect to be a guaranteed position overseas.
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