What do you think will be the biggest difference

[MadDawg.sixpack]

between a Polk-led and a Cohen-led MSU baseball team?

1. Recruiting

2. Agressiveness at the plate

3. Agressiveness on the base paths

4. Emotional, fiery Cohen versus calm, "that's baseball" Polk.

5. Something else?

 

[MadDawg.sixpack]

between a Polk-led and a Cohen-led MSU baseball team?

1. Recruiting

2. Agressiveness at the plate

3. Agressiveness on the base paths

4. Emotional, fiery Cohen versus calm, "that's baseball" Polk.

5. Something else?

 

[MaxwellSmart]

All of the top 4 combined. If I had to choose I think 1 or 2 followed closely by 3 and 4.

 

[moneydawg]

All of the above

 

[beachbumdawg]

between a Polk-led and a Cohen-led MSU baseball team?

1. Recruiting <font color="#CC3300">:wont rely on camps to recruit.....i think i heard the word "relentless" in recruiting</font>

2. Agressiveness at the plate :<font color="#CC0000"> There are times to be agressive and times to be patient.....</font>

3. Agressiveness on the base paths : <font color="#CC0000">I think he will be aggressive on the base paths....i look for state to have a lot of Grant Hogue type players.....we have a big ball park.....play to your advantages</font>

4. Emotional, fiery Cohen versus calm, "that's baseball" Polk. <font color="#CC3300">I think emotion will be huge...(as long as it is controlled emotion)....not only will keep the players on edge but also the fans</font>

5. Something else? <font color="#CC0000">Wont be afraid of playing infront of large home crowds

6. Strength and Conditioning....Cohen is a big believer in lifting weights.....should help with the injury bug too.....
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Pretty much all of the aboce
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[DerHntr]

5. Focus on winning rather than excuses.

6. An update to the computer age (seriously...I think this will help in recruiting although i admit it may not fall in the category of "Biggest Differences").

edit to add: I think my #5 would affect all of your 1-4 to the point that, in my opinion, it should be first. </p>

 

[Stormrider81]

I doubt we'll get excuses about the size of the ballpark, scholarship limitations, and things of that sort.

 

[FlabLoser]

[No message]

 

[Porkchop.sixpack]

nfm

 

[newsdog]

#1-4 all point to the level of energy and intensity Cohen brings to the program. That's the big difference. It just happens to show up in a lot of different areas where we've been lacking in the last few years. <span style="font-weight: bold;">
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[MadDawg.sixpack]

I'm sure most everyone predicts more wins. But I wasn't really looking for predictions of outcomes. That's all just a guess anyway. No, I was really hoping to find out how you thought Cohen would differ from Polk.

From what I've read over the past several days and weeks, I would think recruiting may be the single most difference. What we were doing before didn't really even sound much like recruiting to me. It sounds like it will be a complete 180º.</p>

 

[Shmuley]

that matches the hunger of long-time fans who have watched incredibly talented teams (85, 89) sputter and die before the goal was achieved.

 

[dawgoneyall]

Hopefully, the 4 hit inning 1 run scored becomes a rarity.

 

[jackbaddawg]

& excuses all the time & hope when we loose I hope I never ever have to hear: well, that's baseball.

 

[cowbell9]

nm

 

[patdog]

is that losing is not an option any more. Whatever it takes to win, we will do. Losing will not be accepted or tolerated. Now of course that doesn't mean we won't lose any more. But it won't be accepted and everything we can do to avoid it will be done.

To me, that's the biggest difference. With Polk, losing was just part of baseball. With Cohen, it's unacceptable.

 

[MadDawg.sixpack]

Losing will not be accepted or tolerated.

I always get a chuckle out of these kinds of statements. I don't even know what that means. Will not be tolerated? So clean house after a loss? I know that's not what you mean, but how else can you decipher that? Reality is that Cohen will lose games at MSU (shock). And they will be tolerated.

 

[skydawg1]

I think we will begin to make the rest of the SEC miss Ron Polk more than we will miss him.

Folks won't look forward to playing MState anymore (the exception being Van Horn who is for some reason Polk's *****).

 

[8dog]

its all about attitude. Coaches that don't accept losing get upset when they lose and look for every way to get better.

It's clear that Polk was okay with losing.

This is not just made up stuff...this is a very real attribute that some coaches have and some don't. Our last one just didn't mind losing.

 

[patdog]

It means just what 8Dog says it means.</p>

 

[was21]

at the plate"...or at least that's the "spin" side....

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

bruises maybe?

 

[dawgoneyall]

Polk was glad Georgia could win one of the three games. I doubt Cohen will be glad if we lose any to Ky next year.

May not mean much to you, but that difference between Polk and Cohen means a lot to me and I bet others as well.

 

[Indndawg]

Cohen's guys will be intense or hit the road. This don't-give-a-crap-if-we-get beat daze are over. Polk's girls seemed more concerned about having fun, farting around, and if they won then it was gravy. That **** is done.

 

[ArrowDawg]

nm

 

[Indndawg]

Lar many times couldn't pull the trigger b/c of timidity or ramifications from the CB's.

 

[Mjoelner]

"That's baseball." after every loss with a couple of years of "I thought we competed real well and worked the pitch count." thrown in for good measure. I'm ready to hear "We got our asses kicked and here's what we're gonna do about it."

 

[MadDawg.sixpack]

May not mean much to you, but that difference between Polk and Cohen means a lot to me and I bet others as well.

Oh it means something. I just think it's more about the "calm, that's baseball Polk" versus the "fiery, emotional Cohen". That's the difference in my opinion. And for the record, I'm ready for that change. We've done it Polk's way for too long. It's time for a new direction.

But statements like "losing will not be tolerated any more" are just gooey, feel-good statements that fans cling to but don't really mean anything. Like I said before, Cohen (like any coach) will lose games at MSU. And the losses will be tolerated.

 

[Stormrider81]

Right after that line pat wrote this: "Now of course that doesn't mean we won't lose any more. But it won't be accepted and everything we can do to avoid it will be done."

But that doesn't matter, we'll just take the one line and draw a conclusion out of it that pat obviously didn't mean when considered in the context of his post. The line "losing won't be tolerated" clearly means that the coach, in this case Cohen, won't simply say "that's baseball" after a loss but will be ticked off and will be looking to correct whatever we may have done wrong in order to avoid losing the next game.</p>

 

[8dog]

except maddawg. Its a pretty simple concept for those that follow sports closely.

 

[MadDawg.sixpack]

and what this has basically broke down to is a difference in semantics.

I agree with the premise. I just don't agree with a phrasing. What he calls "he won't accept losing" I call being a fiery, emotional coach.</p>

 

[patdog]

Not accepting losing doesn't have a damn thing to do with being a fiery, emotional coach. Tom Landry didn't accept losing and he had all of the fire and emotion of a potato. A more current example is Roger Federer. Not accepting losing is a mindset that you're going to do whatever it takes to win. You can have that mindset and be fiery and emotional or cool and rational.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

etc.</p>

 

[inthedawghouse]

Beachbumdawg

I feel positive about Cohen but, lifting and conditioning have been a big part of the past baseball program. The problem is, it wasn 't monitored well and was not always set up for the game of baseball. Lifting for one sport is different than another sport. Our weight lifting program WAS the cause of most of the pitching injuries over the last few years.

Hopefully Cohen knows how this works.</p>