what is there not to like about Coach Franklin???

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Coach Franklin seems to represent everything in the Penn State value system, a great family person, honest, direct, etc. He and the team have done a great job recruiting, and even better in the current era where much recruiting has become entangled with NIL - even though that is technically against NCAA regs. He has done a good job with bringing in coaches, and is starting to develop his own "coaching tree". He now is becoming one of the longer tenured coaches in CFB, and could actually turn into a v2.0 of JoePa. He also has fought the PSU leadership to do the things we need. He is a good CEO coach.

My wife asked me what is it you do not like about JF? I only had one thing - still don't care for some of his clock management and risky calls that seem unnecessary. That is just my preference, and hardly a reason to not like all that is good about Coach Franklin.
 

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Coach Franklin seems to represent everything in the Penn State value system, a great family person, honest, direct, etc. He and the team have done a great job recruiting, and even better in the current era where much recruiting has become entangled with NIL - even though that is technically against NCAA regs. He has done a good job with bringing in coaches, and is starting to develop his own "coaching tree". He now is becoming one of the longer tenured coaches in CFB, and could actually turn into a v2.0 of JoePa. He also has fought the PSU leadership to do the things we need. He is a good CEO coach.

My wife asked me what is it you do not like about JF? I only had one thing - still don't care for some of his clock management and risky calls that seem unnecessary. That is just my preference, and hardly a reason to not like all that is good about Coach Franklin.

 
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Well then OSU has not been elite since 2014. By your definition, other than OSU in 2014 and FSU in 2013, no one outside of Clemson and a few SEC teams have been elite since 2006.
That’s correct. Elite is only a few. Ohio State, Clemson, Georgia, Bama.
 
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Well then OSU has not been elite since 2014. By your definition, other than OSU in 2014 and FSU in 2013, no one outside of Clemson and a few SEC teams have been elite since 2006.
Fanboys who fantasize about being elite...cry we we we all the way home.
 
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Coach Franklin seems to represent everything in the Penn State value system, a great family person, honest, direct, etc. He and the team have done a great job recruiting, and even better in the current era where much recruiting has become entangled with NIL - even though that is technically against NCAA regs. He has done a good job with bringing in coaches, and is starting to develop his own "coaching tree". He now is becoming one of the longer tenured coaches in CFB, and could actually turn into a v2.0 of JoePa. He also has fought the PSU leadership to do the things we need. He is a good CEO coach.

My wife asked me what is it you do not like about JF? I only had one thing - still don't care for some of his clock management and risky calls that seem unnecessary. That is just my preference, and hardly a reason to not like all that is good about Coach Franklin.

It’s the in-game coaching decisions and continual contract extensions (from his agent floating his name out there for every available job). Wonderful otherwise. I don’t know that we can do better.

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I grew to respect and admire the way JVP went about his business. I see many of Joe's tenets in James. I want to win every game But being a PSU fan (for me) isn't conditional on being "elite. " Fanboys who aren't happy can always enter the portal.
 

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Coach Franklin seems to represent everything in the Penn State value system, a great family person, honest, direct, etc. He and the team have done a great job recruiting, and even better in the current era where much recruiting has become entangled with NIL - even though that is technically against NCAA regs. He has done a good job with bringing in coaches, and is starting to develop his own "coaching tree". He now is becoming one of the longer tenured coaches in CFB, and could actually turn into a v2.0 of JoePa. He also has fought the PSU leadership to do the things we need. He is a good CEO coach.

My wife asked me what is it you do not like about JF? I only had one thing - still don't care for some of his clock management and risky calls that seem unnecessary. That is just my preference, and hardly a reason to not like all that is good about Coach Franklin.
He doesn’t have a son named Jay🤷‍♂️
 

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That’s correct. Elite is only a few. Ohio State, Clemson, Georgia, Bama.
No. Would a team that has not won a NC in almost 10 yrs still be Elite? Probably not. What about FSU? Are they still elite because they won a NC one year before OSU? Not to mention, by your definition, Day cannot be elite…he has not won NC while HC at OSU. So therefore OSU cannot be elite either.

I can punch holes in your first statement all day.
 

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No. Would a team that has not won a NC in almost 10 yrs still be Elite? Probably not. What about FSU? Are they still elite because they won a NC one year before OSU? Not to mention, by your definition, Day cannot be elite…he has not won NC while HC at OSU. So therefore OSU cannot be elite either.

I can punch holes in your first statement all day.
FSU hasn’t been in the national championship hunt in 10 years…not elite. OSU is certainly elite.

Franklin said they weren’t elite last year. What are you punching holes in what Franklin said?
 
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The clock has 9 years to tick.
And a lot of $$$, JF saved himself this season, still don't know that he is a great coach, but he's a damn good recruiter and CEO imho, the Diaz hiring was stellar. I think were at a point where we know we could do worse than Franklin, but could they do better? As was stated 9yrs regardless.
 

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And a lot of $$$, JF saved himself this season, still don't know that he is a great coach, but he's a damn good recruiter and CEO imho, the Diaz hiring was stellar. I think were at a point where we know we could do worse than Franklin, but could they do better? As was stated 9yrs regardless.
CJF isn't in the top 12 of salary.
 

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FSU hasn’t been in the national championship hunt in 10 years…not elite. OSU is certainly elite.

Franklin said they weren’t elite last year. What are you punching holes in what Franklin said?
I’m punching holes in your comment. If you are saying Franklin and Penn State are not elite and will not be until he wins a NC, then by your definition, Day and OSU cannot be elite until he wins a NC as OSU HC.

If you still say Day and OSU are elite then Franklin has the ability to make us elite as well without having to win a NC.
 

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I’m punching holes in your comment. If you are saying Franklin and Penn State are not elite and will not be until he wins a NC, then by your definition, Day and OSU cannot be elite until he wins a NC as OSU HC.

If you still say Day and OSU are elite then Franklin has the ability to make us elite as well without having to win a NC.
Never said Franklin or Day was or wasn't elite...it's about the program. PSU not elite until they win a Natty and are in the hunt most years . Whether that is with Franklin, or anyone else. Right now…OSU is elite. They are consistently in the national championship hunt. We haven't played for one in 40 years.
 

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His press conferences, specifically hydration. His press conferences, when seated, have at least one bottle of Aquafina water and some combination of Gatorade Blue, White or Purple. The ratio of water to Gatorade often varies and there's no consistency or pattern to the selection of Gatorade that I can tell. Sometimes the water is on the left, sometimes the right. Sometimes he opens one, sometimes he'll go the entire presser without opening one. Often he'll "randomly" reorient the bottle's label so it's facing forward if it's askew which I suspect is a secret signal of some sort.
Not sure how he can run an operation the size of PSU football if he can't consistently manage his hydration options during press conferences! Maybe I'm nit-picking.
 

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His press conferences, specifically hydration. His press conferences, when seated, have at least one bottle of Aquafina water and some combination of Gatorade Blue, White or Purple. The ratio of water to Gatorade often varies and there's no consistency or pattern to the selection of Gatorade that I can tell. Sometimes the water is on the left, sometimes the right. Sometimes he opens one, sometimes he'll go the entire presser without opening one. Often he'll "randomly" reorient the bottle's label so it's facing forward if it's askew which I suspect is a secret signal of some sort.
Not sure how he can run an operation the size of PSU football if he can't consistently manage his hydration options during press conferences! Maybe I'm nit-picking.

Nit-picking? Obviously.
 

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His press conferences, specifically hydration. His press conferences, when seated, have at least one bottle of Aquafina water and some combination of Gatorade Blue, White or Purple. The ratio of water to Gatorade often varies and there's no consistency or pattern to the selection of Gatorade that I can tell. Sometimes the water is on the left, sometimes the right. Sometimes he opens one, sometimes he'll go the entire presser without opening one. Often he'll "randomly" reorient the bottle's label so it's facing forward if it's askew which I suspect is a secret signal of some sort.
Not sure how he can run an operation the size of PSU football if he can't consistently manage his hydration options during press conferences! Maybe I'm nit-picking.

Water over the damn…..!
 

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His press conferences, specifically hydration. His press conferences, when seated, have at least one bottle of Aquafina water and some combination of Gatorade Blue, White or Purple. The ratio of water to Gatorade often varies and there's no consistency or pattern to the selection of Gatorade that I can tell. Sometimes the water is on the left, sometimes the right. Sometimes he opens one, sometimes he'll go the entire presser without opening one. Often he'll "randomly" reorient the bottle's label so it's facing forward if it's askew which I suspect is a secret signal of some sort.
Not sure how he can run an operation the size of PSU football if he can't consistently manage his hydration options during press conferences! Maybe I'm nit-picking.
What I can’t believe is I actually read this entire thread! There’s 45 seconds of my life in the Sh*tter!!!!
 

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His press conferences, specifically hydration. His press conferences, when seated, have at least one bottle of Aquafina water and some combination of Gatorade Blue, White or Purple. The ratio of water to Gatorade often varies and there's no consistency or pattern to the selection of Gatorade that I can tell. Sometimes the water is on the left, sometimes the right. Sometimes he opens one, sometimes he'll go the entire presser without opening one. Often he'll "randomly" reorient the bottle's label so it's facing forward if it's askew which I suspect is a secret signal of some sort.
Not sure how he can run an operation the size of PSU football if he can't consistently manage his hydration options during press conferences! Maybe I'm nit-picking.
Those days are over. Its RC Cola products now.
 

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Coach Franklin seems to represent everything in the Penn State value system, a great family person, honest, direct, etc. He and the team have done a great job recruiting, and even better in the current era where much recruiting has become entangled with NIL - even though that is technically against NCAA regs. He has done a good job with bringing in coaches, and is starting to develop his own "coaching tree". He now is becoming one of the longer tenured coaches in CFB, and could actually turn into a v2.0 of JoePa. He also has fought the PSU leadership to do the things we need. He is a good CEO coach.

My wife asked me what is it you do not like about JF? I only had one thing - still don't care for some of his clock management and risky calls that seem unnecessary. That is just my preference, and hardly a reason to not like all that is good about Coach Franklin.
As the coach of one of the 3 main professional football teams in Pa, Franklin is to be judged no differently than the head coach of the Steelers and Eagles and is only as good as his win/loss record - nothing more nothing less.
 
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As a person and a rep for the school, you can't really ask for much more. All around good guy.

Coaching wise I won't get into his record against the teams that matter. I'll also stay away from certain positions that we never seem to recruit or develop to elite levels. But my general grievances with him are:

Some of the in-game decisions with clock management and 4th down calls with us in bad field position are indeed mind boggling.

He stuck with the bulk of the Moorhead offense for way too long after Saquon left. Some of it still lingers till this day and we just don't have the talent on offense to pull it off. Saquon the unicorn could make it work, but he isn't walking through that door anymore.
 

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As the coach of one of the 3 main professional football teams in Pa, Franklin is to be judged no differently than the head coach of the Steelers and Eagles and is only as good as his win/loss record - nothing more nothing less.

Yes, because Penn State UNIVERSITY. o_O is obviously a professional football team.
 

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Every coach ever has had questionable decisions with the clock or playcalling. EVERY SINGLE ONE EVER. This is the most used BS line I see on this site. Basically you're saying he isn't perfect....well no f--king s__t, thanks for that. Of course he isn't. Next up is the cherry picking of the record, you can only talk abut the L's....never the W's. Bottom line is he is a good coach that needs to take the next step. I've never heard him run from that or say that they are content with not winning the conference or MNC.

The annual contract negotiations are/were tiring, but if you saw Pate's interview last week and comprehended the why that was occurring....it makes a bit more sense. He had options because other people can see he is a good coach that can recruit and that is a huge thing in college football. He was asking for school to all be on the same page and said for the FIRST time that is really occurring now, this year. The other schools that people want to compare him to don't block their HC's for the most part and try to pave the way for them as they know and own the fact that football is what butters their bread. PSU still has a group that want to pretend it's 1946 and these kids are just lucky to get ships and that free education. There is no perfect coach and most sane fans know he is a good coach that needs to get over the hump.
 

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People who think he is above reproach are as prevalent and as annoying as anything he’s done.
You should take it up with those people then. Thankfully most sane fans see he is good for PSU and is working to get better still, but know he isn't perfect.
 
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