What Screwjob benefitted MState the most?

HammerOfTheDogs

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We've been flagellating ourselves with all the things that have gone against MState. However, I got to thinking about the ways the Bulldogs have screwed other teams. Here's a few I can remember:

- Rod Gibson scoring that TD against LSU in 1999.
- MState hosting the 1987 regional as a #2 seed, when Okla. St. was #1.
- Brian Hazelwood's "made" field goal against Arkansas in 1998.
-Playing BYU in 2000 on a Thursday night after an off-week, while BYU had to play that previous Saturday.

Please, no debating whether these were really "screwjobs". Just want to hear examples of how we got over.
 

HammerOfTheDogs

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We've been flagellating ourselves with all the things that have gone against MState. However, I got to thinking about the ways the Bulldogs have screwed other teams. Here's a few I can remember:

- Rod Gibson scoring that TD against LSU in 1999.
- MState hosting the 1987 regional as a #2 seed, when Okla. St. was #1.
- Brian Hazelwood's "made" field goal against Arkansas in 1998.
-Playing BYU in 2000 on a Thursday night after an off-week, while BYU had to play that previous Saturday.

Please, no debating whether these were really "screwjobs". Just want to hear examples of how we got over.
 

BriantheDawg

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The Hazlewood kick - although some say he kicked it so hard that it was definitely thru the up-rights before it sailed left.

LSU fantom TD when Gibson landed a good yard and a half short of the goal line. I can't really think of anything else.
 

jakldawg

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then I'd like to submit Timmy Bowers' punking 'Bama at the free throw line in 2004 (right year?).

and I still maintain that the Gibson call was a make-up-call from the previous play where we were in the end zone, but they didn't call a TD.
 

MSUCE99

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...and as a direct result, MSU screwed Clemson out of a spot in the World Series.

/bananaboy
 

patdog

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1 - I've watched that play many times and you just can't tell where the ball was when his knee went down.

2 - OK, that one was kind of a screw job, but the criteria for hosting was different than. In any case, it's not as bad as the year (I forget which one) we hosted a regional as a #3 seed.

3 - Hazlewood's FG looked good to me.

4 - BYU could have turned down the Thursday TV game. And it's not like they're the only team to ever play under those conditions. It happens all the time. And in the NFL your beloved Cowboys get a similar break every year the week after the Thanksgiving game (as does every team who plays a team the week after a Monday night game).
 

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...but Hazelwood was good, that BYU scenario is not unheard of and happens some (and was their own fault for allowing it to be scheduled), and the regional thing in baseball happens a lot. No question, it was Gibson. That is the one play that I can remember that we hugely benefited from.

I will say that the screwjobs have gotten less since Croom took over. I think the refs wanted to hammer JWS.
 

HammerOfTheDogs

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...yet everybody who was there thought it was good. The most important thing was that the refs said it was good. It just pissed Razorneck fan off so bad that we became the big rivalry game for them for years.

I agree about the Croom hire- if by being progressive and making history by hiring Sylvester Croom results in a few screwjob wins for us, good. It's about time.
 

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The Hazelwood kick was good. Albeit not by much, but it was good.

98' vs Auburn on the opening kickoff. They fumble. Kenzaki Jones picks up the fumble with one knee down. Then later pitches the ball from his knee to Clinton for the TD. He was down twice. Not that it would have made much difference in the game.

99' or 00' vs Memphis in Memphis...the 100 degree game...Memphis stripped Madkin of the ball and ran it back for a TD. Refs called in the grasp and Madkin down before the fumble. I thought we caught a break on that. Might have changed that game.
 

dogfan96

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there is not, nor has there ever been, any replay that conclusively shows that Gibson did NOT score on that play. And everybody knows we actually scored the play before anyway so that wasn't a screwjob. It would've been a screwjob had we NOT been given the TD.
 

Todd4State

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when we screwed over Polk to get Cohen.

I still think it's funny that what convinced Cohen to go against Polk's wishes was the mass e-mails (technology).
 

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beneficial call I ever remember MSU getting was in the 98 Arkansas game where we essentially won the SEC West division crown (even though technically we still had to beat a Romero-less OM team as well). Anyway, in our offensive series BEFORE the one we drove down and scrored the winning FG against Arkansas we had 3rd down (already in FG range mind you to take the lead) but Madkin went out for a play or two with an injury and Rob Morgan came in. Now for some INSANE reason, instead of running the ball into the middle of the field to set up a good FG attempt on the 3rd down play, our brilliant offensive coaching staff had Morgan, who was by no means a prolific passer, roll out and attempt to throw for the first down. Well, the pass attempt was deflected up in the air and subsequently intercepted by an Arkansas defender and he proceeds to run the ball all the way down to around the MSU 10 yardline. So essentially Arkansas at that point would have had the lead with only around 10 to 15 yards to go to seal the win with a TD. Instead the refs saved the day for us by calling a block in the back on the interception return which took Arkansas back about 60 yards worth of field position. Upon this, I believe after maybe one Ark first down, Ed Smith and Kevin Sluder, got back to back sacks on Stoerner forcing Arkansas to punt the ball back to us setting up the winning FG drive. I don't know who the ref was that threw that flag on Arkansas for the block in the back, but he gave us probably the best call we've ever had in modern MSU football history.
 

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and hosted that regional. Meanwhile Ole miss travelled and gets *** whipped in Arizona.
 

xxxWalkTheDawg

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and hiring a moron to replace him to keep the rebels from taking full advantage of MSU being down due to The Kang letting the team fall apart helped a lot.

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......that ******* idiot Todd Christensen to a great extent for the perception created that Gibson didn't cross the goal line. He sat up there in that ESPN booth asking for replay after replay and just wouldn't let go of it, even though there never was a definitive angle that showed where Gibson fell short of the goal line. Now he may have been short, but bothing ever showed it.</p>

Hazelwood's FG against Arkansas is even less of an issue. Nobody but the oifficials can know for sure if the ball crosses either inside/over the posts or outside of them. They are the ones standing in the right position to make that determination, and they said it was good. That camera angle behind the goal post was a horrible way to judge it because you can't tell where the ball was when it passed by the post. I believe it was good, but just barely. Barely still counts.

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........pre-expansionm, which means fewer seats, and the stadium that day wasn't even close to being full. Yet, it was without a doubt one of the loudest games I've ever attended. Some people might say it just was the cowbells, but cowbells have been present at every game including ones with larger crowds, and that '98 Arkansas game is still louder than most in my memory. The fans that showed up that day did a hell of a job.
 

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WalkTheDawg said:
and hiring a moron to replace him to keep the rebels from taking full advantage of MSU being down due to The Kang letting the team fall apart helped a lot.

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as much as it's karma being a *****.

Someone said it best after the Egg Bowl- we got probation, and they got O-bation.
 

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Croomp said:
and hosted that regional. Meanwhile Ole miss travelled and gets *** whipped in Arizona.

were the only time LT would ever stick up for MSU. Probably only because we make money off of Regionals and he didn't have to pay for the team to travel if we hosted.

I still don't think we screwed over Clemson, though. Yes, they did have a better RPI, but not that much better (if I recall), but the real determing factor was the fact that we simply outbid them for it. That's not our fault. If there are two fairly equal teams in terms of RPI, the NCAA is going to give the SR to whoever bids the most and whoever can make the most money. Clearly that was us.
 

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it was on the same day as opening day of gun season, but still, the 32K on hand were very loud. Jason Campbell and his family were sitting in front of us going nuts, I remember telling my buddy that he was one of the top qb prospects in the south and that we just "locked him up" with that win. Thanks Jackie!
 

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for example:

Bellard's last year(?), we force the LUS QB into a fumble or INT (returned for a TD by Aaron Pearson?) & the refs said he was 'in the grasp'? (of course see Mempho example with Madkin somebody else cited); also the 1st LUS TD against us in 00 (see video proof someone provided a few weeks back)

Multiple Bammer games (Bammer fair catches punt ~75 & actually runs with it & gets no penalty; McDole drops pass after running several yards with ball, picks it up & scores but called incomplete; we get screwed in 87 on H'ween night (sorry can't remember details); phantom holding call on Pig punt return in 99, etc.)

Dick Pace, Dick Pace, Dick Pace

Seems like there was something amiss in the 01 game against the Aubs.

As far as us getting favorable calls, the main ones that stick out are the Madkin play against Mempho (mentioned above), the Gibson TD against LUS (still think we scored on the previous play), the Hazelwood kick against UPig (mighty close), & I remember us trying to draw the Aubs offsides on a punt (Pat Dye's first year?; think the refs screwed that up & gave us a 1st down when we didn't merit one).

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we blocked a punt deep in their territory, but it was called back on a penalty. I think we got called for head slapping the center.</p>
 

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remember the Wind Bowl? Where we lost due to a field goal being blown back thru the uprights against Ole Miss by a huge gust of wind. That might be the most absurd thing to ever happen.
 

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playing Auburn who was either #1 or #2 at the time. We were nothing, not expected to have a winning season. We score a touchdown to pull it within one with seconds left on the clock and the students are going nuts calling for two. We had absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain by going for two (this was pre-overtime rules). Felker pusses out and sends in the kick team and our marvelous place kicker hit the ball so low it hit a Auburn offense lineman in the face mask. Game over, we lose.

Not so much refs but definitely falls into the stupid category.
 
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