When is the last time…
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This is true and it’s maddening. If you’re gonna take that shot make sure you are behind the damn line, it’s not hard. The very long two is the worst shot in basketball. If you make it you only get two and if you miss the other team has a transition attempt for an easy basket.
The be honest we've never had the recruiting luck to land one of those players. We've had some great players recruited and signed in the past but not any three-point specialists or players who made a lot of three's
That is my answer to my own question too. A guy you absolutely could not leave alone or sag off of or he would make you pay. Made life for Dampier a hell of a lot easier with that kind of threat on the perimeter. Been a long time since that was a real factor in our offense.
Most recent is probably Quinndary Weatherpsoon
Also:
Ben Hansbrough
Barry Stewart
Ravern Johnson
Shane Power
Timmy Bowers
Winsome Frazier
Also:
Ben Hansbrough
Barry Stewart
Ravern Johnson
Shane Power
Timmy Bowers
Winsome Frazier
Darryl shot a little over 40% from 3FG range, and it was damned risky for opponents to leave him open. When you can shoot well outside, you can pound it inside a hell of a lot easier and vice versa. The next time we would be remotely this diversified would be in 2003-2004, IMHO. Since then, I'm not so sure we've had anything with that kind of chemistry that executed an inside and outside game that well.
I would also say that there is a big difference between outside "shooters" and outside "scorers." The only other guy I saw shoot as well as Darryl Wilson was Jeff Malone in 1980-1981 (before 3 pointers). That man was money from the corner.
The 3 point assassins on that list to me are Darryl Wilson, Ravern Johnson, and maybe Shane Power.
Ravern Johnson was a lot better 3 point shooter than people remember….mainly because of the teams he played on being frustrating to watch sometimes, and because he struggled a bit in just about every other facet of his game (especially defense). But, he could stroke it. When you consider the 3-point line being further back in the mid 2000’s than it was in the mid 90’s, you could make the argument that he was a better 3-point shooter over his career than Daryl Wilson was, even though his final % made was 0.2% lower.
Ravern and Holman would be the most recent two I would consider. Q too.
Holman will probably be dismissed by many, but he was money as a junior and senior.
Holman will probably be dismissed by many, but he was money as a junior and senior.
Didn't struggle much because he didn't try much. That was one of Stansbury's big failings. Romero OSby sitting on the bench while Ravern was not giving good effort was criminal. I don't know if osby pissed in Stansbury's cheerios or what, but he must have really pissed Stansbury off.
Ray White had the softest touch on his shot. One of my all time favorites to play at State. Didn't hurt to be playing with Wiley Peck, Rickey Brown and Gary Hooker either.
Winsome Frazier + Rosey Baby free pitchers for 3 pointers was incredible
No idea if that worked out for Rosey Baby, but it worked out for me.
No idea if that worked out for Rosey Baby, but it worked out for me.
Jeff Malone even though there wasn’t a line back then and only counted for 2 the shots were usually from 25 ft
Not saying that Ravern didn’t have occasional effort problems, but he and Osby didn’t even really play the same position. Ravern was more a 2/3 that liked to hang out on the perimeter, and Osby was more of a 4 who played closer to the basket and was much more physical.
We shot 25% from 3 against Arkansas, which is horrible regardless of what Ark shot. Ark out rebounded us by 3, both overall and on the offensive glass. That certainly helped, but Arkansas won the turnover battle 12-5, which is ultimately what won the game for them.
This team really needs a shooter that other teams truly fear, and we would benefit from a true point guard too.
The definitely were different players, but Osby stepped in at the three for the UK game that Ravern was suspended for and the team played better. With Osby, we would have had more energy, better defense and rebounding, more penetration. Definitely there would have been times that we would have missed Ravern's shooting if you had to pick one or the other and couldn't adjust to the matchup, but if you had to choose, it seems like the no brainer was the effort guy that could rebound and play defense. I'm also pretty sure we played a decent amount of 2-3 that year with Ravern down on the block, so Osby would have been a much better fit there also.
ETA: that said, Ravern's shot was really smooth and fun to watch. It was just frustrating watching him leave here without a ton of improvement other than getting a little stronger while he matured and hit the weightroom hard to put on a total of 4 lbs of muscle in his years at MSU.
Lamar Peters had some big games his last season. Q was pretty consistent. Ravern was the last I'd say the other team had to plan on him taking up to 10 shots per night --- if he was on he could hit 5 or 6 in a game. But if he was off he may go 1 - 8 or something like that.
Holman could hit them but other than a few games where he got hot, he normally wouldn't shoot more than 2 or 3.
Holman could hit them but other than a few games where he got hot, he normally wouldn't shoot more than 2 or 3.
I watched Jeff Malone hanging out in the old Tin Gym with a friend from another court in a pretty quiet day in there. He was nailing turnaround jumpers from the corner -- mostly NBN
That man could drain a long jumper in his sleep
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