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Brutal. Trying to give a gift to the Gopher seniors. My god let’s make this hard. On defense the tackling was atrocious! Worst I’ve seen all year. ST we’re not complimentary today! Kudos to the OL for owning the second half. And the bronze game ball goes to Franklin for finally going for it… he’s got grapefruits!
 

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Brutal. Trying to give a gift to the Gopher seniors. My god let’s make this hard. On defense the tackling was atrocious! Worst I’ve seen all year. ST we’re not complimentary today! Kudos to the OL for owning the second half. And the bronze game ball goes to Franklin for finally going for it… he’s got grapefruits!
he probably thought "eh, what's the worst that can happen if it doesn't work? people ***** and cry about me? that already happens anyway!"
 
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I laugh thinking back to the Bowling Green game, and how many in that game thread were convinced that winning by such a small margin would really hurt us in the late season rankings. Has a single pundit, committee member, or anyone here made a single mention of it in the past month? (Plus the fact that BG is quietly putting together a good season)
 

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Whew is right because there are historical reasons burnt into the living memory of us that get a number of us nervous about games against Minnesota. Coming into today, PSU’s record against the Golden Gophers when PSU is ranked in the top 4 was only 1-2.

In 1997, #1 PSU beat Minnesota.
In 1999, #2 PSU lost to Minnesota.
In 2019, #4 PSU lost to Minnesota.

Thankfully, we evened up the record today.
 

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I laugh thinking back to the Bowling Green game, and how many in that game thread were convinced that winning by such a small margin would really hurt us in the late season rankings. Has a single pundit, committee member, or anyone here made a single mention of it in the past month? (Plus the fact that BG is quietly putting together a good season)

No one would ever mention 1 game from September as a reason to ding a team in late November. However, many on ESPN and elsewhere have complained that PSU was ranked too high before the Minnesota game. This game isn’t going to help with that.

There’s already talk on the late night game halftime shows that PSU should drop with at least Notre Dame jumping them. If that happens, that would put PSU at a 7 seed. The other upsets today will likely keep PSU from falling very far. Hit seed 9 and you lose the home game.
 

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No one would ever mention 1 game from September as a reason to ding a team in late November. However, many on ESPN and elsewhere have complained that PSU was ranked too high before the Minnesota game. This game isn’t going to help with that.

There’s already talk on the late night game halftime shows that PSU should drop with at least Notre Dame jumping them. If that happens, that would put PSU at a 7 seed. The other upsets today will likely keep PSU from falling very far. Hit seed 9 and you lose the home game.
Close win over 7-4 BGSU
Overtime win over 5-5 USC
1 pt win over 6-5 MINN
Zero offensive TDs vs OSU

PSU is 10-1 but they haven't been dominant like you'd expect from a top 4 team. ND beat #19 Army 49-14. That WAS dominant like you would expect from a top 5 team.
 
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No one would ever mention 1 game from September as a reason to ding a team in late November. However, many on ESPN and elsewhere have complained that PSU was ranked too high before the Minnesota game. This game isn’t going to help with that.

There’s already talk on the late night game halftime shows that PSU should drop with at least Notre Dame jumping them. If that happens, that would put PSU at a 7 seed. The other upsets today will likely keep PSU from falling very far. Hit seed 9 and you lose the home game.
ND lost to Northern Illinois. The end of that debate.

Penn State isn't a juggernaut this year and has a performace ceiling against good/playoff teams due to lack of WR talent but an 11-1 Penn State gets a home game no question.
 

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No one would ever mention 1 game from September as a reason to ding a team in late November. However, many on ESPN and elsewhere have complained that PSU was ranked too high before the Minnesota game. This game isn’t going to help with that.

There’s already talk on the late night game halftime shows that PSU should drop with at least Notre Dame jumping them. If that happens, that would put PSU at a 7 seed. The other upsets today will likely keep PSU from falling very far. Hit seed 9 and you lose the home game.
Absolutely idiotic post. Notre Dame lost to Northern Illinois which isn’t even going to win the MAC and is going to jump Penn State because they beat up a clearly overmatched Army team. Get a clue.
 

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Close win over 7-4 BGSU
Overtime win over 5-5 USC
1 pt win over 6-5 MINN
Zero offensive TDs vs OSU

PSU is 10-1 but they haven't been dominant like you'd expect from a top 4 team. ND beat #19 Army 49-14. That WAS dominant like you would expect from a top 5 team.
If you think Army was the 19th best team in the country, then you believe Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny are real too. Watched the first 10 minutes of the game and it looked like men playing against boys from a physical perspective.
 

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ND lost to Northern Illinois. The end of that debate.

Penn State isn't a juggernaut this year and has a performace ceiling against good/playoff teams due to lack of WR talent but an 11-1 Penn State gets a home game no question.
NDs loss to NI was a brain cramps but they've been dominant ever since.

I'd put PSU's struggles vs BGSU in the same category if not for the fact that they struggled so much against other relatively weak opponents.
 
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I laugh thinking back to the Bowling Green game, and how many in that game thread were convinced that winning by such a small margin would really hurt us in the late season rankings. Has a single pundit, committee member, or anyone here made a single mention of it in the past month? (Plus the fact that BG is quietly putting together a good season)
To be honest, yes, I have heard several bring up the close win against BG. (It was mentioned in gameday just last week at the same time Saban claimed we haven’t bested a Top 25 team.) That said, I do believe BG is a good team not getting enough credit, and their QB played VERY well against us.
 
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Close win over 7-4 BGSU
Overtime win over 5-5 USC
1 pt win over 6-5 MINN
Zero offensive TDs vs OSU

PSU is 10-1 but they haven't been dominant like you'd expect from a top 4 team. ND beat #19 Army 49-14. That WAS dominant like you would expect from a top 5 team.
Do top 5 teams lose at home to 7th place MAC teams?
 

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NDs loss to NI was a brain cramps but they've been dominant ever since.

I'd put PSU's struggles vs BGSU in the same category if not for the fact that they struggled so much against other relatively weak opponents.
But PSU won the BG game. ND lost the NIU game. There’s a difference. Plus, ND’s SOS is 82nd in the country. PSU is 32nd. Details matter.
 

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I mean, Ohio St is likely the best team in the country, and they didn’t slaughter us
I feel like PSU usually plays to the level of competition. Generally speaking, we find the juice to be competitive against the big boys, and sometimes let a cupcake look like a world beater.
 
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But PSU won the BG game. ND lost the NIU game. There’s a difference. Plus, ND’s SOS is 82nd in the country. PSU is 32nd. Details matter.
They do, and this is why we are 4th. But there seems to be great forgiveness for SEC teams and schools like ND, and an agenda against PSU due to us not having a signature win (and unlike other schools, we do not have a bad loss).

Reece Davis stood up for us a bit yesterday, saying that the OSU game could’ve gone either way (while Desmond and Saban claimed it wasn’t a close game.)
 

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he probably thought "eh, what's the worst that can happen if it doesn't work? people ***** and cry about me? that already happens anyway!"

I’m pretty sure he thought ‘wouldn’t it be cool if I went for it and made it and the BWI coaches will finally love me’.
 
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NDs loss to NI was a brain cramps but they've been dominant ever since.

I'd put PSU's struggles vs BGSU in the same category if not for the fact that they struggled so much against other relatively weak opponents.
Too bad for them that brain cramp losses count just the same. They are a good team, but as of now they don't have an objectively better resume than Penn State.

If ND takes apart USC, they'll make a statement against a common opponent.
 

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Absolutely idiotic post. Notre Dame lost to Northern Illinois which isn’t even going to win the MAC and is going to jump Penn State because they beat up a clearly overmatched Army team. Get a clue.

Hey, I’m just saying the talk that was happening at halftime of the late night games. PSU was taking heat from some on being overrated the past few weeks. The game yesterday won’t help to end that talk.

They were saying ND had out scored their last 9 opponents by like 390 to 90 (or something like that). The point was ND was blowing out lesser teams as you would expect of a top team while PSU often struggled.
 
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Hey, I’m just saying the talk that was happening at halftime of the late night games. PSU was taking heat from some on being overrated the past few weeks. The game yesterday won’t help to end that talk.

They were saying ND had out scored their last 9 opponents by like 390 to 90 (or something like that). The point was ND was blowing out lesser teams as you would expect of a top team while PSU often struggled.
Fair enough, talking heads can jabber whatever they want, since they're paid to create conversation. Means nothing.

Ultimately the rankings don't matter, they'll seed teams however necessary to create the matchups they want.
 

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Ultimately the rankings don't matter, they'll seed teams however necessary to create the matchups they want.
True. I think we’ll see some movement in the rankings this week as they gerrymander it with next week’s games in mind to set up the matchups they’d like. (At least that’s what prior playoff system rankings have done in the past).

I think they’ll try to avoid matching same conference teams but I could see them put PSU vs Indiana as they didn’t play in the regular season.
 
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Don’t buy the ND argument. Terrible loss to NIU vs 7 pt loss to #2. SOS isn’t close. Best group of 4 wins are comparable. A&M for ND and Illinois for us. Illinois likely to end up 9-3 while A&M ends up 8-4. I’m a fan of the service academies but to think their teams are comparable to the top 4-5 in BIG and SEC is ridiculous. The only reason they were ranked is because they make people feel warm and fuzzy. Would not be huge shock if SC pulls the upset next week.
 
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