Willie Fritz beats Kansas State…..
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The guy is no doubt a very good coach, but he can never be anything more than a temporary fix due to his age.
You may want to pump the brakes. Over 11 years, he has .560 wining percentage.
His record is beyond question and speaks for itself; 10 years ago, I would have been all for hiring him. But, he's now right at mid-60's age-wise. How much longer would you think he will remain active (?), especially considering how long it might take to rebuild and stabilize our FB program?
An old experienced HC would be a good option to stabilize the program after the Arnett experiment. Once you get it up and running a younger coach could take over.
Willie Fritz also got blown out by UNLV, Cincinnati and Kansas…… just in case you missed it
it certainly does, it speaks that his record over 11 years is a little better than 50/50.
“You are what your record says you are,” Bill Parcels.
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Willie Fritz hired Kevin Barbay to be his Offensive Coordinator so I seriously question his decision making ability.
His team is actually improving throughout the year and was competitive with some good teams
Not a big deal. I’ve shown this many times on this board, as long as you them late 50s/early 60s. Are they gonna be lifers? No, but good options for a 5-7 year run, which is a lifetime in college football these days
Plus, we often don’t do well in the market for the lifer coaches and upstart young guys
Yes, we needed an experienced head coach. No, we didn't need Willie Fritz. Not just the age thing, but hiring Barbay shows it would have been more of the same here with the head scratching decisions.
Barbay had been alright before he came here, so I chalk a lot of that up to T-bro Arnett and all his Peach Pack of Pals that were running around the program. RuN dA bAwL
Yeah. People somehow have this idea that when you hire a coach it has to be for 10+ years. It doesn't. The average coaching tenure is about 4-5 years. If we can get one to do a good job for 4-5 years before retiring or moving on, that would be one of the best hires in our history.
He also left Tulane to move closer to family in Texas. He wasn't coming to Starkville. I was interested in him about 7 years ago but not now.
Cignetti would have been a good fit. I know for a fact that he waned a power 5 program that he could build and show what he could. I'm not 100 percent certain but I don't even know if we talked to him. I know Indiana is killing it and they have been nothing to mediocre for a long time. Everyone wanted young coach up and coming but cignetti is in his 60s too.
i wanted an older proven coach after Arnett. But our AD decided to hit the easy route and go for Lebby. Another offensive guru that was unproven as a head coach. With no experience building or rebuilding a program.but we can't fire him after year 1 not after firing another guy after year 1. We keep having to do crappy contracts to convince people to come like hutzler so they have reassurance if they are fired. Lebby has just made some fatal mistakes that Mullen didn't make his first year. Of course Lebby is an OU guy with a heavy kiffin and Baylor influence too. These guys give jack **** about defense. Selmon has the same influence.
I wish we would have stayed far away from OU influence in our athletics.
This is where the error was. Should have got a search and hired. Recruiting schedule be damned. Turned out that class was a bust and we have changed our most of the roster anyway. Keenum and Bracky killed the program
Hiring (or keeping) a coach for one recruiting class is ALWAYS a terrible idea. You have to hire the best coach you can. If you do. The recruiting will take care of itself.
We'll never know. Lenny ran them all off and the ones that remain have a bunch of goobers coaching them.
I understood it at the time, until T-bro Arnett started bringing in his moronic transfers.
Either way, we no AD, it was the best decision at the time. We messed up by letting him fire all Leach's guys.
Time for a search firm would have been this past year.
Exactly. We had too many involved make quick emotional decisions that torpedoed the program. My faith in Keenum doing anything right for msu athletics is very slim to non existent.
That's what sucks so hard about Leach's death. We would have had a good run there to help us stay relevant and transition over into the rev-share era.
Mullen didn't make those mistakes because he was smart enough to know you have to lead with defense at MSU. That's the players we produce, that's our tradition. Salmon and Lenny have no plan at all, except shltshowtime.
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