Would you be upset if the CU rivalry ended?

[KOTR]

If for some unforeseen were to happen to cause the yearly football game with CU to stop happening would you be unhappy? If no, are there any sports you would be unhappy to see stop happening regularly?

I'm just curious after reading the thread about CU possibly leaving the ACC. At first, I thought fans on both sides would be really upset about the possibility. Then, I began to wonder if that's really the case. What are your thoughts?

 

[Gradstudent]

If Clemson goes to the PAC 2 like I have suggested in another thread, which seems to me like a great fit for them, we should be able to continue to play, each year

 

[Fried Chicken]

Personally, I don’t like having the non-conference game against Clemson every year for scheduling purposes. That’s the huge benefit of them coming into the SEC…then it’s a conference game and allows us to have a little more creativity with out schedule.

If they move to the B1G, nothing really changes immediately. It’s still a non-conference game at the end of the season. Where it eventually changes is when the SEC goes to a 9 game conference schedule, which it will eventually. Each team will play a big non-conference game, and ours will be tied up each year against Clemson. Then there is really no room for creativity as you put yourself at a huge disadvantage to play 11 Power 5 teams in a season. At that point, I’d be fine dropping them. I know it would be crazy, but in time we’d get used to it.

But, I still think before all of that takes place, something drastic is going to happen in College Football. I don’t know exactly what it’s going to be, but I just don’t see it being these conferences the way they exist in the long term.

As of now, it sounds like our administrators are against Clemson joining the SEC. I personally don’t see the SEC taking that too much into account as we’re not exactly Alabama or Georgia to them. I still believe Clemson will be in the SEC in the end, along with Florida State. UNC will go to the B1G

 

[Yard_Pimps]

Personally, I don’t like having the non-conference game against Clemson every year for scheduling purposes. That’s the huge benefit of them coming into the SEC…then it’s a conference game and allows us to have a little more creativity with out schedule.

If they move to the B1G, nothing really changes immediately. It’s still a non-conference game at the end of the season. Where it eventually changes is when the SEC goes to a 9 game conference schedule, which it will eventually. Each team will play a big non-conference game, and ours will be tied up each year against Clemson. Then there is really no room for creativity as you put yourself at a huge disadvantage to play 11 Power 5 teams in a season. At that point, I’d be fine dropping them. I know it would be crazy, but in time we’d get used to it.

But, I still think before all of that takes place, something drastic is going to happen in College Football. I don’t know exactly what it’s going to be, but I just don’t see it being these conferences the way they exist in the long term.

As of now, it sounds like our administrators are against Clemson joining the SEC. I personally don’t see the SEC taking that too much into account as we’re not exactly Alabama or Georgia to them. I still believe Clemson will be in the SEC in the end, along with Florida State. UNC will go to the B1G

I’ll stand by I don’t think our administrators really get to make that call. Politically speaking the legislator and their ties to the board won’t allow a state funded school to miss out on that much money. Then there is the real daddy ESPN that pulls the strings.

 

[Tusi21!!]

If the college ended it would curb the jersey influence

 

[CockofEarle…]

If for some unforeseen were to happen to cause the yearly football game with CU to stop happening would you be unhappy? If no, are there any sports you would be unhappy to see stop happening regularly?

I'm just curious after reading the thread about CU possibly leaving the ACC. At first, I thought fans on both sides would be really upset about the possibility. Then, I began to wonder if that's really the case. What are your thoughts?

Think the boyz in the state house addressed that. School funding for both is tied to playing on a yearly basis.

 

[vacock]

I’m ok dropping series but we need to have a few national championships.

 

[KingWard]

UPC will continue on our schedule and, more than likely, as an SEC rival. That's the only way we will ever have a rival in the SEC.

 

[Psycock]

We need to try to keep them out of the SEC if at all possible. Being in the SEC is the only real advantage we have over them. They are outrecruiting us still - we are trying to catch up and that would negate the one advantage we have.

 

[92Pony]

We need to try to keep them out of the SEC if at all possible. Being in the SEC is the only real advantage we have over them. They are outrecruiting us still - we are trying to catch up and that would negate the one advantage we have.

I agree 100% with this!!! If they get into the SEC, their recruiting will go through the roof. People keep saying they will have two or three losses every year in the SEC - not when they are recruiting like Bama and uga given their SEC membership. Those who don’t believe it - watch and see should they get in. I really, really hope they don’t.

 

[Uscg1984]

The South Carolina/Clemson football game is the event around which my entire sports-year revolves. There are other sports events during the year, to be sure, but none come close to the anticipation of that one. There is no greater disappointment or joy to be derived from a regular-season sporting event. The team I love the most plays the team I hate the most, in the sport I love the most. It's the Big Kahuna and nothing else is even close. If you don't get that, so be it. But keep your grubby hands off my game.

 

[Beehaver]

It wouldn't bother me a bit . I don't live in SC and don't know anyone that pulls for cu. The ONLY time I even think about cu is our annual game. To me , UGA, UF ,and UT are much more anticipated and important games .....every year

 

[KingWard]

Personally, I don’t like having the non-conference game against Clemson every year for scheduling purposes. That’s the huge benefit of them coming into the SEC…then it’s a conference game and allows us to have a little more creativity with out schedule.

If they move to the B1G, nothing really changes immediately. It’s still a non-conference game at the end of the season. Where it eventually changes is when the SEC goes to a 9 game conference schedule, which it will eventually. Each team will play a big non-conference game, and ours will be tied up each year against Clemson. Then there is really no room for creativity as you put yourself at a huge disadvantage to play 11 Power 5 teams in a season. At that point, I’d be fine dropping them. I know it would be crazy, but in time we’d get used to it.

But, I still think before all of that takes place, something drastic is going to happen in College Football. I don’t know exactly what it’s going to be, but I just don’t see it being these conferences the way they exist in the long term.

As of now, it sounds like our administrators are against Clemson joining the SEC. I personally don’t see the SEC taking that too much into account as we’re not exactly Alabama or Georgia to them. I still believe Clemson will be in the SEC in the end, along with Florida State. UNC will go to the B1G

They won't move to the BIG. The BIG wants top-tier research universities - TOP-TIER.

 

[KingWard]

We need to try to keep them out of the SEC if at all possible. Being in the SEC is the only real advantage we have over them. They are outrecruiting us still - we are trying to catch up and that would negate the one advantage we have.

That's pitiful from beginning to end.

 

[Yard_Pimps]

They won't move to the BIG. The BIG wants top-tier research universities - TOP-TIER.

The big wants what fox wants. If they say pull the tigger on a south “pod” AAU won’t matter and they have stated this. It’s not even a bylaw. It’s simply an unspoken rule. I’m sure rogue will be along to argue with me but I don’t see the AAu being a stopping force that he does. I’ll buy what the BIG powers have stated even just recently.

 

[KingWard]

The big wants what fox wants. If they say pull the tigger on a south “pod” AAU won’t matter and they have stated this. It’s not even a bylaw. It’s simply an unspoken rule. I’m sure rogue will be along to argue with me but I don’t see the AAu being a stopping force that he does. I’ll buy what the BIG powers have stated even just recently.

I'll take the "under" on UPC to the B1G. I'm not going anywhere in terms of this board, unless I go someplace neither you nor anyone else can reach me.

 

[Carolina Doc]

I believe that it is SC state law for USC and Clemson to play football against each other. But one change I think would be interesting is for the game to be played at a different time in the season. Perhaps the very first game or a mid-season game. An occasional return to a "Big Thursday" State Fair game when Carolina is the host team.

 

[Deleted11512]

I agree 100% with this!!! If they get into the SEC, their recruiting will go through the roof. People keep saying they will have two or three losses every year in the SEC - not when they are recruiting like Bama and uga given their SEC membership. Those who don’t believe it - watch and see should they get in. I really, really hope they don’t.

I don't think so. They're able to go into a 5* kid's house and tell him they can pretty much guarantee him a conference championship and a CFP appearance. That's a whole helluva lot more valuable to a recruit than "we're in the SEC". I think it will hurt their recruiting. They're able to differentiate themselves from UGA, USC, Bama, UT, etc... right now.

 

[Lurker123]

I believe that it is SC state law for USC and Clemson to play football against each other.

It is not.

This gets brought up iccassionally. There was a proposed law, that didn't get approved to force it one year back in ww2 or something.

But there is no law on the books mandating the game.

 

[Big JC]

I agree 100% with this!!! If they get into the SEC, their recruiting will go through the roof. People keep saying they will have two or three losses every year in the SEC - not when they are recruiting like Bama and uga given their SEC membership. Those who don’t believe it - watch and see should they get in. I really, really hope they don’t.

I don't understand this SEC worship. If SEC membership ensured great recruiting, why don't UF, MissSt, KY, Missouri and Carolina have great recruiting classes every year? Clemson doesn't have any trouble recruiting now. They can realistically tell a recruit they will have at least one conference championship and be in the playoff most years of their college career. In the SEC they couldn't make that statement with a straight face.

The SEC is as top heavy as any other conference right now. Bama, Georgia and LSU rule the roost, Vandy is the perennial bottom dweller and the other 12 teams are all about the same year in and year out. In time, the top two or three will change some but Vandy will stay at the bottom and everyone else will stay in the middle zone.

 

[gamecox4982]

When the dust settles it’s going to be one huge super conference. Unfortunately middle of the road teams may or may not be invited and that’s teams like WVU, Kentucky Ole Miss, Missouri and South Carolina. Schools like Vandy, Duke and Syracuse have zero chance

 

[Carolina Doc]

It is not.

This gets brought up iccassionally. There was a proposed law, that didn't get approved to force it one year back in ww2 or something.

But there is no law on the books mandating the game.

Thanks for the clarification. Looks like I've been misled for years.

 

[Deleted11512]

Thanks for the clarification. Looks like I've been misled for years.

A lot of people have been. It came up during COVID. People panicked about it when the SEC said they're going to an all SEC schedule for 2020. Then we found out that there is, in fact, no law stating that.

 

[SCExpat38]

A lot of people have been. It came up during COVID. People panicked about it when the SEC said they're going to an all SEC schedule for 2020. Then we found out that there is, in fact, no law stating that.

But there ought to be.

 

[KingWard]

I don't understand this SEC worship. If SEC membership ensured great recruiting, why don't UF, MissSt, KY, Missouri and Carolina have great recruiting classes every year? Clemson doesn't have any trouble recruiting now. They can realistically tell a recruit they will have at least one conference championship and be in the playoff most years of their college career. In the SEC they couldn't make that statement with a straight face.

The SEC is as top heavy as any other conference right now. Bama, Georgia and LSU rule the roost, Vandy is the perennial bottom dweller and the other 12 teams are all about the same year in and year out. In time, the top two or three will change some but Vandy will stay at the bottom and everyone else will stay in the middle zone.

UPC can take advantage of SEC membership to a greater extent than any of the schools you mentioned in the question I bolded but one. In the case of that one (UF), it's coach-dependent.

 

[Tusi21!!]

yeah

 

[KOTR]

Think the boyz in the state house addressed that. School funding for both is tied to playing on a yearly basis.

I feel certain that has been mentioned before, but I I didn't know that. That seems like a very strange thing on which to base funding to what are supposed to be institutions of education. Not disagreeing with your point, though.

 

[athenscock3]

Yes. It would not be the same without the Palmetto State rivalary to look forward to no matter how much greed and money is involved. It's a way of life to me.

 

[KingWard]

 

[HillsToSea]

You did say you like mayhem

 

[CockofEarle…]

I feel certain that has been mentioned before, but I I didn't know that. That seems like a very strange thing on which to base funding to what are supposed to be institutions of education. Not disagreeing with your point, though.

It’s some interesting history alright. Believe it traces itself back to formation of acc in 52. Southern conference tries to prohibit usc -moou playing, ie, acc rises from knuckleheads of old southern conference. Flash forward 17 yrs, moou has opportunity to leave asheshe, decides to stay. Now some 55yrs later, clemp wants more for his son.

 

[KingWard]

You did say you like mayhem

Utterly love it as long as no one gets killed or badly maimed.

 

[Prestonyte]

Utterly love it as long as no one gets killed or badly maimed.

Are you that ''Allstate guy'' - hence the love for mayhem. lol

 

[KingWard]

Are you that ''Allstate guy'' - hence the love for mayhem. lol

My suit and face are dirty and I've got bandaids all over me. My hair would be tousled if I had any.

 

[Beehaver]

I believe that it is SC state law for USC and Clemson to play football against each other. But one change I think would be interesting is for the game to be played at a different time in the season. Perhaps the very first game or a mid-season game. An occasional return to a "Big Thursday" State Fair game when Carolina is the host team.

I have always thought it should be played as the FIRST game of the year.

 

[Beehaver]

But there ought to be.

No...too much law/govt in our lives now . Gov't needs to stay out of it .

 

[Tngamecock]

Yes

 

[GCJerryUSC]

It’s some interesting history alright. Believe it traces itself back to formation of acc in 52. Southern conference tries to prohibit usc -moou playing, ie, acc rises from knuckleheads of old southern conference. Flash forward 17 yrs, moou has opportunity to leave asheshe, decides to stay. Now some 55yrs later, clemp wants more for his son.

They should have left with us. Of course, am glad USC left now and was glad at the time but as I saw what it was doing to our MBB program regretted it. It was a stupid move at the time(firing Jim Carlen was even worse). ACC didn't REALLY seem to care that one of its founding members was leaving. As a matter of fact, they somewhat encouraged it. USC tried to get back in a few years later after realizing what a disaster being an independent was. ACC said NO altho they did it in a kind of face saving way for USC which was a surprise.

When SEC expanded to 12, they might have invited Clemson if the school was independent alongside USC instead of USC. Would have been an even worse disaster for USC.

Anyway, wish USC would drop the game as long as Clemson is in the ACC. It benefits them a lot more than USC. No excuse for Clemson to have a much better overall record than USC. It should be the other way around.

 

[Jonesz2]

I’d rather not play them. Drop em

 

[CockofEarle…]

They should have left with us. Of course, am glad USC left now and was glad at the time but as I saw what it was doing to our MBB program regretted it. It was a stupid move at the time(firing Jim Carlen was even worse). ACC didn't REALLY seem to care that one of its founding members was leaving. As a matter of fact, they somewhat encouraged it. USC tried to get back in a few years later after realizing what a disaster being an independent was. ACC said NO altho they did it in a kind of face saving way for USC which was a surprise.

When SEC expanded to 12, they might have invited Clemson if the school was independent alongside USC instead of USC. Would have been an even worse disaster for USC.

Anyway, wish USC would drop the game as long as Clemson is in the ACC. It benefits them a lot more than USC. No excuse for Clemson to have a much better overall record than USC. It should be the other way around.

FWIW, told by a former trustee rejoining was never brought up in front of him.
AND yes, Carlen firing was an abortion.